[HN Gopher] The PoWeR technique: a strategic approach to self-di...
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       The PoWeR technique: a strategic approach to self-discipline
        
       Author : ChanningAllen
       Score  : 56 points
       Date   : 2023-07-17 13:54 UTC (9 hours ago)
        
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       | rcarr wrote:
       | What an overcomplicated load of baloney. If you become aware that
       | you're scared, stressed or overactive and distracted, do some
       | 4-4-4-4 box method breathing until your mind calms down. The end.
       | Just saved you having to remember this stupid acronym and this
       | "ransom decision" nonsense. What's more, it's a proven technique
       | that's used by military personnel in life or death scenarios, as
       | opposed to whoever this person is who's claiming to have "10,000
       | learning cycles" of self discipline, whatever the fuck that
       | means.
        
         | ChanningAllen wrote:
         | Author here. I am a fan of box breathing, along with several
         | other "proven" breathing techniques.
         | 
         | Not sure what the downside is of experimenting with new
         | techniques to add to one's tool set? Keep in mind that I'm just
         | a guy on the internet who discovered something that worked and
         | decided to share it with others in the hope that they'd also
         | find it helpful.
        
         | 0cf8612b2e1e wrote:
         | Never heard of it, but according to random website [0].
         | 
         | > Box breathing--also known as square breathing and 4-4-4-4
         | breathing--is a breathwork first popularized by Navy SEALs who
         | used it to quickly sharpen concentration and enhance alertness.
         | It requires inhaling for four counts, holding your breath for
         | four counts, exhaling for four counts, and then holding your
         | breath again for four counts.
         | 
         | [0] https://www.mindbodygreen.com/articles/box-breathing
        
           | anyoneamous wrote:
           | It's quite relaxing, but I get the impression that's because
           | your mind is filled with "Count to 4"/"Blarg my nose is
           | stuffy"/"Jesus why is holding my breath for 4 seconds so
           | hard"/"Wow I actually have to push to empty my lungs in 4
           | seconds"/etc
        
           | rcarr wrote:
           | For anyone interested, I first came across it in Unbeatable
           | Mind by Mark Divine. If I remember right it also goes into
           | the OODA loop and other mental models, tips and tricks plus
           | some info on physical fitness and flexibility. Good book.
        
         | username135 wrote:
         | 10000 of anything is just key wording to allude to being a
         | 'master' at something since that number was arbitrarily used to
         | determine who or who is not an expert.
        
           | rcarr wrote:
           | It was referring to hours of practice so 10,000 hours made
           | you a master but what the fuck constitutes 10,000 learning
           | cycles of self discipline? Has he spent 10,000 hours sat in
           | meditation like a monk? I highly doubt it. It's nonsense the
           | author is using to try and give himself some credibility.
           | 
           | He also links to a blog post describing his "somewhat
           | hardcore work routine" and how adhd is his "superpower". It's
           | a hard pass from me.
        
         | catsarebetter wrote:
         | Yeah it does seem a little bit more complex than necessary.
         | Simple methods, simple life
        
         | barbs wrote:
         | This is about exercising self-discipline, not calming yourself
         | down?
        
       | xbar wrote:
       | Perhaps the author meant "clenching."
        
         | jeron wrote:
         | just short of kegel exercises
        
         | ChanningAllen wrote:
         | Indeed the author did. Thanks for the catch.
        
       | onemoresoop wrote:
       | [flagged]
        
         | dang wrote:
         | " _When disagreeing, please reply to the argument instead of
         | calling names. 'That is idiotic; 1 + 1 is 2, not 3' can be
         | shortened to '1 + 1 is 2, not 3._"
         | 
         | " _Please don 't post shallow dismissals, especially of other
         | people's work. A good critical comment teaches us something._"
         | 
         | " _Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of
         | what someone says, not a weaker one that 's easier to
         | criticize. Assume good faith._"
         | 
         | https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
        
       | readthenotes1 wrote:
       | Couldn't get part the foundation on the debunked marshmallow
       | test.
        
         | carabiner wrote:
         | Not sure it was debunked, maybe a bit deflated though. The
         | replication only found the effect to have half of the power as
         | the original.
         | 
         | Edit: nvm looks like it's garbage lol https://anderson-
         | review.ucla.edu/new-study-disavows-marshmal...
        
       | barbazoo wrote:
       | This one, this one will surely help me break my social media
       | addiction...
        
       | sxp wrote:
       | I strongly recommend the book referenced in the article. I
       | finished reading it a few weeks ago and is a fascinating coverage
       | of various hypotheses regarding the connection between proper
       | breathing and health. I'm still experimenting with some of the
       | items from the book, but it's a good read for anyone interested
       | in self-hacking.
       | 
       | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breath:_The_New_Science_of_a_L...
        
       | Thoeu388 wrote:
       | It is question of motivation. Motivation uses logical forebrain,
       | best way is to take thinking out of equation.
       | 
       | - marshmallow test is invalid, if kids do not trust adult. It
       | would not work on kids from rough neighbourhood, who would get
       | second marshmallow stollen. Single marshmallow is logical choice
       | in this case. Apply that on savings and inflation...
       | 
       | - if phone alarm does not wake you up, use lamp with timer. 10000
       | lumens works pretty well...
       | 
       | - phone doom scrolling can be avoided by switching phone into
       | black and white, or inverting colors... Or disable java script
       | everywhere... Or use very very slow proxy server...
       | 
       | Key is not to think about it. The moment you have to switch on
       | your brain, to convince yourself, is the moment you lost!
        
       | QuantumG wrote:
       | Some of the best advice I've heard from alcoholics who got sober
       | is: if you can have two drinks and then stop, you don't have a
       | drinking problem. Similarly for self-control: if you have enough
       | patience to read this comment, you don't have a self-control
       | problem. Don't get sober for fun, it's no fun.
        
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