[HN Gopher] Semiconductor Supply Chain Explorer ___________________________________________________________________ Semiconductor Supply Chain Explorer Author : jstrieb Score : 29 points Date : 2023-08-07 20:26 UTC (2 hours ago) (HTM) web link (chipexplorer.eto.tech) (TXT) w3m dump (chipexplorer.eto.tech) | [deleted] | oplaadpunt wrote: | What I miss in this overview is the whole of analog IC design. I | get the usual tendency to focus on digital logic (higher volumes, | etc), but analog design has a large importance in fields like | aviation and defence, for security, communications, radar, etc. | ls612 wrote: | Aren't old line companies like TI and ADI king in that market? | varispeed wrote: | Very interesting. I was actually hoping that UK makes a lot of | stuff in the supply chain, turns out we barely make anything. | Great. | jstrieb wrote: | An accompanying blog post that explains the origins of the supply | chain explorer site: | | https://eto.tech/blog/introducing-supply-chain-explorer-adva... | amelius wrote: | > Only U.S. firms can produce EDA software with the full-spectrum | capabilities engineers need to design leading-edge chips. | | Why is that? | transpute wrote: | https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/08/18/1058116/eda-soft... | | _> On August 12 [2022], the US Commerce Department announced a | multilateral export control on certain EDA tools, blocking | China and over 150 other countries--essentially any country | that isn't a traditional US ally--from accessing them without | specially granted licenses ... how has the industry become so | American-centric, and why can't China just develop its own | alternative software?_ | AareyBaba wrote: | The software is complex and you need to work closely with | existing fabs. | | See this video from asianometry | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihz2WY-E2C8 | KirillPanov wrote: | > you need to work closely with existing fabs | | It's mostly this part. | | The fabs are using the EDA companies the same way PC | manufacturers used Microsoft in the 1990s. There is only | really one company for each particular piece of the EDA | toolchain -- Cadence and Synopsys don't really compete | directly now that they've run everybody else out of business | (or bought them up). "Using" here is in the symbiotic sense. | lux_scintilla wrote: | I think Siemens deserves to be on the list but your main | point remains. They all really excel at one step or another | in the EDA chain. Even they do compete generally across the | all broad scopes it sometimes feels like it is not a | serious effort. Sometime I wonder which is cause and which | is effect, is the reason some fabs simply don't provide PDK | support for all options with each company because the tools | are lacking or are the tools lacking because the fab does | not want to provide support. | baybal2 wrote: | [dead] ___________________________________________________________________ (page generated 2023-08-07 23:00 UTC)