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IP Address Blocking Banned After Anti-Piracy Court Order Hit
Cloudflare
Author : weinzierl
Score : 76 points
Date : 2023-08-19 20:14 UTC (2 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (torrentfreak.com)
(TXT) w3m dump (torrentfreak.com)
| chaxor wrote:
| I always assumed businesses such as Cloudfare or Google would
| have a good reason to be the main IPFS or tor node hosts, since
| that can help improve the backbone infrastructure for this side
| of of the internet, and can also help catch bad actors if there
| are any there (easily turn in all logs to three letter agencies
| if they knock, or they can simply offer it up for anon tips).
| jrockway wrote:
| Why can't they discover the IP addresses of the backend and block
| those?
|
| It wouldn't work very well, but then they won't ask again next
| time.
| LilBytes wrote:
| [delayed]
| veave wrote:
| IP address blocking may have been banned, but DPI to block
| domains based on SNI is alive and kickin'.
|
| I've seen people talk about encrypted SNI for a very long time
| now and it's still not working; someone must have dropped the
| ball pretty hard regarding that
| dilyevsky wrote:
| there was a pushback from vendors who drumroll.... sell dpi
| ls612 wrote:
| ECH seems to have been rolled out in browsers as dev features
| so idk what the real blocker is anymore.
| getcrunk wrote:
| > According to reviews conducted by local telecoms regulator TKK,
| the IP address blocking violated net neutrality regulations and
| will no longer be allowed.
|
| Thank god for net neutrality. We of course have that here in
| America right? Cus freedom!
| msla wrote:
| https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/22/technology/montana-net-ne...
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| https://www.multistate.us/insider/2018/1/24/montana-leads-st...
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| Montana's had it since 2018, which was a first:
|
| > Montana Governor Steve Bullock (D) signed an executive order
| requiring internet service providers (ISPs) with state
| contracts to adhere to "net neutrality." The state became the
| first to enact such measures in response to the Federal
| Communications Commission's (FCC) decision to repeal net
| neutrality rules last December.
| astrange wrote:
| Yes, we do have that. It's at the state level.
| notamy wrote:
| In Austria.
| oxygen_crisis wrote:
| > [Austria's] Telekom Control Commission found a violation of
| Article 3 Paragraph 3 of Regulation (EU) 2015/2120, because the
| IP access block poses the risk of 'overblocking' any website
| content.
|
| Since the blocking was illegal per the European Union's
| regulations, presumably any other EU nation would have to enact
| similar decisions if this blocking was done elsewhere in the
| EU.
| tuetuopay wrote:
| > When the ISPs discovered that the IP addresses belonged to
| Cloudflare, arms were thrown up in despair.
|
| The level of desperation the ISP's engineers have felt in front
| of such incompetence must have been through the roof. I am
| getting tired of our politics here in europe: tech literate
| people in governments are put to work on surveilance stuff, never
| for actual policymaking.
|
| The shit show continues.
| gsich wrote:
| The ISPs didn't discover this, they knew. But it was mandated
| so they had to do it.
| veave wrote:
| >The level of desperation the ISP's engineers have felt in
| front of such incompetence must have been through the roof.
|
| If I was an engineer there I would block the addresses and call
| it a day. What do I care? After all it's customer service who
| will deal with the angry calls.
| clnq wrote:
| [delayed]
| worewood wrote:
| Looks like my job. The best way to change stupid procedures is
| following them to the letter and watch the world burn.
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