[HN Gopher] When Trucks Fly
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       When Trucks Fly
        
       Author : acdanger
       Score  : 20 points
       Date   : 2023-08-22 20:21 UTC (2 hours ago)
        
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       | spacecadet wrote:
       | Monster truck engineering, suspensions, dual drive trains.
       | :drool:
       | 
       | Where's the Monster Cybertruck with hub motors??? talk about
       | unsprung mass!
        
       | shockeychap wrote:
       | "Monster truckers obsess over distinctions among types of dirt
       | the way vintners obsess over terroir."
       | 
       | Are the author and publication trying to sound as condescending
       | and uppity as possible? Honestly, this reads like the kind of
       | thing that "Frasier" mocked so perfectly about upscale
       | sophisticates living in a bubble.
       | 
       | I was never a big fan of monster truck rallies, but it's easy to
       | understand what was so fun about them. Articles like this that
       | deign to explain the finer points of monster truck rallies (while
       | using esoteric references to wine sampling) for their audience of
       | sophisticates tell me just how useless publications like the "The
       | New Yorker" really are anymore.
        
         | olivermarks wrote:
         | I gave up my subscription to the New Yorker years ago due in
         | large part to this 'sophisticates' problem
        
         | Johnny555 wrote:
         | It's true though. I say this as someone whose family members
         | used to compete in mud bog competitions (not quite the same as
         | monster trucks, but in the same genre). They'd walk the track
         | and chose tires and set weight balance based on the mud
         | conditions.
        
         | theideaofcoffee wrote:
         | I don't understand what you're considering as uppity as it was
         | probably the only highbrow analogy in the entire piece, the
         | rest being pretty accessible and readable. Also you're
         | evaluating a line from the ... New Yorker which you consider
         | useless, may as well stick to Popular Science if you want just
         | the facts and a little less literary exposition.
         | 
         | This is the same tired critique that people on HN bandy about
         | every time a New Yorker article is posted: "just get to the
         | point!". If they did it would just be a lot less fun to read.
        
         | resolutebat wrote:
         | I'm genuinely confused by what you're outraged by here. The
         | average New Yorker reader knows more about wines than monster
         | trucks, so they're trying to put it in terms that will make
         | sense to their readers.
         | 
         | If anything, the article reads as the opposite of pretentious
         | to me: it makes it clear that monster trucking isn't just
         | brainless amusement for inbred yokels, but a sport where things
         | like the exact composition of dirt is critically important.
        
           | petsfed wrote:
           | I feel like an article that starts with "A monster trucker is
           | the kind of person who has a favorite type of dirt." is
           | trying to say something about "the kind of person who has a
           | favorite type of dirt", and fans thereof, and its not
           | positive.
           | 
           | The whole article reads _to me_ with the same smug
           | superiority as an Onion article about, well, self-described
           | sophisticates enjoying things with a smug sense of
           | superiority[0]. The thing curiously absent from the article
           | is any sort of enthusiasm for the subject matter. Its all
           | very clinical, and seems at best bemused about other people
           | 's enthusiasm, without anything to suggest why that
           | enthusiasm might be justified.
           | 
           | 0. https://www.theonion.com/ill-try-anything-with-a-detached-
           | ai...
        
           | JimtheCoder wrote:
           | "but a sport where things like the exact composition of dirt
           | is critically important."
           | 
           | Let's not swing the pendulum too far in the opposite
           | direction either...
        
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             | dmbche wrote:
             | Never driven one, but ai'm fairly certain they weight
             | absurd amounts and wreck the tracks they go on - the soil
             | is going to be imoortant to take into consideration for
             | tires, inflations, setting the suspension.
             | 
             | Just like setting up race cars or bikes is a lot more than
             | turning a key and ripping the track, even if it's asphalt!
        
           | shockeychap wrote:
           | "isn't just brainless amusement for inbred yokels"
           | 
           | The article never made reference to "inbred yokels". It
           | didn't have to. It can couch its descriptions in the language
           | of coastal elites who supposedly know more of wine and polo
           | than they do of simple things like truck rallies. And while
           | it's ostensibly explaining how "sophisticated" the sport is,
           | the readers will fully understand the "isn't just brainless
           | amusement for inbred yokels" part.
           | 
           | I wouldn't characterize my response as one of outrage. But I
           | do find it off-putting and pretentious.
        
             | ethanbond wrote:
             | "It can couch its descriptions in the language of [its
             | primary audience]." This is a weird critique.
        
               | shockeychap wrote:
               | That's fair to say, and I don't deny being a little
               | hostile toward snobbery and pretension. I always have
               | been. However, I also don't think [its primary audience]
               | is quite right. I think [its primary audience's self
               | image] is a little more correct.
        
         | nosefurhairdo wrote:
         | There is nothing condescending about that analogy. Debatable
         | whether "terroir" is esoteric, but even without knowing about
         | winemaking you can understand the point that the quality of
         | dirt is of surprising significance to monster truck rallies.
         | 
         | And an article which aims to spread cross-cultural appreciation
         | for a fun, harmless event is not useless. What is useless is
         | unconstructive negativity.
        
           | shockeychap wrote:
           | I have to question how "surprising" the significance of dirt
           | composition is. The characteristics of dirt and mud (and the
           | tires themselves) will affect all aspects of how the truck
           | behaves and handles. How is it surprising that one who enjoys
           | the activity would be deeply invested in the very ground on
           | which everything happens?
           | 
           | If the article actually was trying to spread any kind of real
           | appreciation for monster trucking or why they're so much fun,
           | I would be all for it. However, it reads like some outsider
           | describing observations of an untouched tribe in the jungles
           | of South America. No matter how much they write of their
           | interesting findings, they're not trying to convince any of
           | us to give up modern life and join the tribe.
        
         | dmbche wrote:
         | The article is very long and I'm uninterested in reading the
         | whole thing, but I got tired after reading a couple of
         | screefuls of explanations and examples of the complexity of
         | organising these events - dirt being a stricking example since
         | it sounds like a simple problem but ends up being a massive
         | hassle - costing 300 000$ when setting up in Miami.
        
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