[HN Gopher] LibreOffice 24.2 Will Succeed LibreOffice 7.6
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LibreOffice 24.2 Will Succeed LibreOffice 7.6
Author : profwalkstr
Score : 47 points
Date : 2023-08-22 21:49 UTC (1 hours ago)
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| jokoon wrote:
| I learned that I can just add a picture in a PDF with libreoffice
| draw, which is a thing that cannot be done with pdf.js yet.
| actionfromafar wrote:
| Will someone turn off the lights at OpenOffice? It's so sad.
| graypegg wrote:
| Just as a note since it's not 100% clear which project you're
| talking about, LibreOffice and OpenOffice are now two different
| projects. One is just a fork of the other.
|
| LibreOffice (the topic of this article and version change)
| isn't very sad imo!
| taneq wrote:
| I interpreted this as "LibreOffice supplanted OpenOffice so
| completely and so long ago that OpenOffice should just give
| up." (Not up to date with what or how the OpenOffice project
| is doing these days so I have no opinion on them personally,
| I always thought LibreOffice was essentially just a re-brand
| though?)
| actionfromafar wrote:
| OpenOffice is limping along, about a gazillion commits and
| bugfixes behing LibreOffice. To match your Internet
| Explorer 6 experience, try OpenOffice today!
| ethbr1 wrote:
| Afaik, LibreOffice was a fork of OpenOffice because
| OpenOffice refused to implement quality of life features in
| a timely manner.
|
| https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenOffice.org#LibreOffice
|
| Apparently there was also some footdragging by Sun (because
| Sun) and later Oracle (because evil) about creating a
| neutral caretaker foundation to guide development.
|
| Circa 2010/11, the development community decided to do it
| themselves.
| isaacremuant wrote:
| Clickbait title but makes sense. Yearly versioning.
| calvinmorrison wrote:
| Which tells you less than a actual semver. Where did it all go
| wrong?
| jacobsenscott wrote:
| lol. "Breaking change: all English text is rendered right to
| left now. In can be changed to bottom to top in the compile
| options. Left to right has been removed."
| throwbadubadu wrote:
| Just read the intro of https://semver.org/ once more, maybe
| you notice something?
| quonn wrote:
| It's not less but different. For example you immediately know
| how old the version is.
| theossuary wrote:
| Calendar versioning makes way more sense for end user
| applications, especially those with GUIs. There isn't much
| concept of a non-backwards breaking change in something like
| libreoffice, so semver ends up trying to expose information
| that isn't there.
| msla wrote:
| Semantic versions only make sense if you anticipate
| discontinuous breaking changes in the future, with periods of
| stability between. If no new version will be a breaking
| change, or if every new version will be breaking, it loses
| meaning and you might as well go date-based. (Or, if you're
| Linus Torvalds, completely arbitrary.)
| JohnFen wrote:
| > If no new version will be a breaking change, or if every
| new version will be breaking
|
| But the vast majority of the time, applications fall into
| neither of those categories.
| skissane wrote:
| I don't think semver is very useful for applications as
| opposed to libraries.
|
| Remove some obscure feature which almost nobody ever used?
| Backward incompatible change, must increment major version.
|
| Add some major new feature which is a massive quantity of
| code, visible and likely important to all users-but 100%
| backward compatible? Increment minor version instead.
|
| Make sense to (some) developers, but to an end-user semver is
| rather nonsensical. Everyone can understand calendar-based
| versioning.
| JohnFen wrote:
| But semver actually tells you useful information. calendar-
| based versioning tells you nearly nothing.
|
| To end users who only care that they have the latest
| version, both schemes serve the purpose equally well, so
| why not go with semver?
|
| But I'll take even calendar-based over code names. Code
| names tell you literally nothing.
| ahofmann wrote:
| Semver is perfect for developers and libraries and helps a
| lot.
|
| In software for end users semver tells nothing most of the
| time.
| deaddodo wrote:
| SemVer is more useful in Apps if you use feeling vs strict
| rules. A massive UI overhaul (but without breaking
| features) is almost definitely a major version bump but
| SemVer says it's a significant minor jump (5.0->5.5), at
| best.
|
| The problem is that SemVer was released _for_ libraries,
| where it 's rationale and rules make sense. But the
| abstract _spirit_ of major.minor.patch makes more sense at
| an application level.
| michaellarabel wrote:
| How is the title 'clickbait'? Calling It "LibreOffice Changing
| To Year.Month Based Versioning Scheme" or similar just makes it
| longer and less immediately clear... Really I honestly fail to
| see how it could be considered 'clickbait' for phrasing it as
| simply as possible.
| xcdzvyn wrote:
| The title is definitely supposed to play on the shock factor
| of 24 clearly not being immediately greater than 8, and
| possibly the mixed reactions to some other software moving
| away from SemVer (Firefox switching to Chrome's scheme comes
| to mind)
|
| It wasn't immediately apparent to me that the new versioning
| scheme would be year.month/whatever, which is the real news,
| but it's less interesting.
| TaylorAlexander wrote:
| The title is a simple factual statement. I see no reason to
| presume the information is presented for "shock factor".
| jsight wrote:
| Is LibreOffice still commonly used? It seems like much of the
| world has shifted to cloud offerings.
| jehb wrote:
| I use it all the time, not because I'm as good as I'd like to
| be about keeping things out of the cloud that don't need to be
| there, but because I often have ad hoc spreadsheets that are
| bigger than Google Sheets can handle.
| Scarbutt wrote:
| Exporting to .xls files it's pretty bad, so it's a no for
| sharing. Unfortunately, Google sheets does a better job here.
| badsectoracula wrote:
| I use it all the time when i need a spreadsheet, rich text
| editor or... powerpoint viewer :-P.
|
| Now i don't really need these _that_ often but it is still one
| of the programs i have installed on my PC since the OpenOffice
| days.
|
| Also FWIW i avoid anything web-based as much as i can. I prefer
| software that runs on my own PC, as a desktop app whenever
| possible.
| LoveMortuus wrote:
| Interesting, I used to use word processor that aren't cloud
| based, but many years ago I've lost to many of my writings
| due to crashes or power loses, do that when I finally
| discovered cloud based word processors it was like magic to
| me, because it didn't crash and if I lost power I didn't lose
| any of my work!
| blackhaz wrote:
| Daily. I hate clouds with a passion.
| gillesjacobs wrote:
| The killer feature for me is full regex search and replace
| support, not available elsewhere.
| cheaprentalyeti wrote:
| They could do like Slackware and go to version 13.37...
| nvy wrote:
| I'm waiting for v31.337 myself
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