[HN Gopher] The Notetaking Cold War (2020) ___________________________________________________________________ The Notetaking Cold War (2020) Author : Tomte Score : 20 points Date : 2023-08-25 19:45 UTC (3 hours ago) (HTM) web link (every.to) (TXT) w3m dump (every.to) | vcg3rd wrote: | I use both with Org-mode, except my R=refile and is my org-roam | directory. | | Some notes have a known place in a system from the start. Some | need to wait for connections. | wglb wrote: | So to settle the issue, we should be like Mother Russia, and keep | notes in our mind like on the back of one enormous envelope. | johngalt wrote: | It's not about hierarchy or flexibility, but the ill-defined | nature of what 'notes' are. Ask people to share notes and you'll | observe several different types with disparate goals: | | 1. Shorthand: A memory mechanism to simplify/summarize a complex | text. | | 2. Logbook: Record a series of events which occurred and what | order. | | 3. Planner: Todo lists, upcoming meetings, due dates. | | 4. Whiteboard: A worksheet for working through a complex problem. | | 5. Time-capsule: Long term memory about why we decided to do | [thing]. | | If you take someone who treats notes like a Whiteboard and try to | sell them a system which looks like a Logbook, they will think it | makes no sense. | alanbernstein wrote: | Hmm, can I subscribe to a newsletter about this SLoPWiT | technique you've just invented? | NoMoreNicksLeft wrote: | I like this comment. Thank you. | | Think your list is comprehensive, or is it just an off-the-cuff | summary? I mean, the _full_ list must be a pretty good start to | making actually decent notes-software. | johngalt wrote: | Off-the-cuff; there are certainly more categories. | | Notes related behavior is a good place to find ideas, but not | a good goal itself. 'Notes' is where information lands which | isn't being specifically captured. Looking at your | organization's notes will draw the outline of the system | which _isn 't_ present, what feature the present system is | missing, or what training doesn't cover. | TRiG_Ireland wrote: | Is this a new number, or is it 3a? | | Drafts for blog posts; ideas for YouTube videos; half- | formed notions which might one day make a good speech in | Toastmasters. | webel0 wrote: | This is the third notetaking post I've seen on here in the past | 48 hours. Is something happening in this space? Or is this just | the whole "feed your notes to an LLM then $$$" thing? | gjvc wrote: | textual echolalia | bwestergard wrote: | I am not convinced of the premise this subculture takes as its | point of departure: that a single piece of software can be | written, or a single process developed, that improves upon a wide | range of established and purpose-built note-taking systems. | | There is a craving for generality here that I suspect is rooted | in an investor narrative - "the total addressable market of a | good note-taking app is huge!" - rather than a good faith effort | to solve the particular problems of particular users. | gjvc wrote: | the most capable minds in computing are working in advertising | or the allied trades. | | The notion of a universal canvas which can host multiple | content types and allow the creation of new modes of | interaction is the holy grail of this sort of thing, but the | common platforms today are not free-form enough to accommodate | this. | thecodrr wrote: | Anyone who says X must be done in Y way is most absolutely wrong. | Who is Tiago Forte to tell how I should organize my thoughts? Am | I a robot to follow so simply in the footsteps of another? I | would like a more general approach, please. | | Any serious note taker eventually realizes that the way their | brain works doesn't really fit into any PARA, ARPA or any other | standarized system. | | Note taking is a messy business. It's not supposed to be | organized because you take notes to become more organized, not to | organize more notes. | | Just take your notes. | | Organization will automatically happen. Humans are very bad at | doing things randomly. There's always an order, a sequence, a | method to the way we do things. Who's to say your method is | better than mine? | tmshu1 wrote: | Humans will try to dogmatize anything. And overcomplicate | everything. ___________________________________________________________________ (page generated 2023-08-25 23:00 UTC)