[HN Gopher] The Decreationist: Simone Weil's thoughts on the unm...
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       The Decreationist: Simone Weil's thoughts on the unmaking of the
       self
        
       Author : Caiero
       Score  : 13 points
       Date   : 2023-08-27 03:47 UTC (19 hours ago)
        
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       | jdkee wrote:
       | Simone Weil's life and philosophy are a testament to the
       | complexities of human existence, grappling with profound
       | questions about meaning, sacrifice, and the nature of the self.
       | Weil's concept of decreation, in which she suggests the need to
       | diminish oneself to allow space for God or the divine, is both
       | intriguing and unsettling. This seemingly radical notion
       | challenges the very foundation of human existence and questions
       | our understanding of self-worth and purpose.
       | 
       | Your reflection on Weil is rich and comprehensive, drawing
       | connections between her writings, her life, and interpretations
       | by other thinkers like Costica Bradatan, Susan Sontag, and Iris
       | Murdoch. These interpretations provide a multi-faceted lens to
       | understand Weil, highlighting the profound impact she has had on
       | philosophy, theology, and ethics.
       | 
       | A few points that arise from your reflection:
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       | The Essence of Decreation: While decreation is steeped in
       | religious imagery, the idea can also be understood in secular
       | terms. When we let go of our ego, desires, and needs, we make
       | space for a deeper understanding of the world around us and
       | cultivate true compassion for others. The challenge lies in
       | interpreting how far one should take this idea - should one
       | entirely abandon the self, or is it more about achieving a
       | balance?
       | 
       | Ethical Attention: Both Weil and Murdoch emphasize the importance
       | of attention in ethics. By truly seeing and understanding the
       | world and others, we can foster genuine relationships built on
       | empathy and selflessness. This form of 'unselfing' resonates with
       | many contemporary mindfulness practices that encourage presence
       | and self-awareness.
       | 
       | Life as Martyrdom: Weil's dedication to her beliefs, to the point
       | of self-starvation and her eventual death, serves as a stark
       | reminder of the lengths to which one can take philosophical
       | convictions. While her martyrdom is not something everyone would
       | choose or endorse, it does challenge us to consider the depth of
       | our commitments and the sacrifices we're willing to make for our
       | beliefs.
       | 
       | Weil as a Standard: As Murdoch notes, Weil serves as a standard--
       | a beacon of deep thought, commitment, and passion. Though her
       | ideas might not align with everyone's beliefs, her dedication to
       | understanding and living her truth is commendable.
       | 
       | In conclusion, Simone Weil's life and work serve as a powerful
       | testament to the intricacies of human existence, forcing us to
       | grapple with uncomfortable questions and challenging our
       | fundamental beliefs. The anniversary of her death serves as an
       | opportune moment to reflect on her contributions, understanding
       | them in the context of our times, and drawing lessons that might
       | guide our journey forward.
        
       | kelseyfrog wrote:
       | It seems as though the author is hinting at a spectrum of
       | decreations from physical to mental. On one hand it suggests
       | that, Weil equates the decreation of the self to be synonymous
       | with physical decreation, while the author suggests that mental
       | decreation to be an other valid interpretation.
       | 
       | For those who are practitioners of neti neti meditation, what are
       | your thoughts on the subject?
        
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