[HN Gopher] Utopia Clicker
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       Utopia Clicker
        
       Author : colinprince
       Score  : 38 points
       Date   : 2023-08-28 18:06 UTC (4 hours ago)
        
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       | davidivadavid wrote:
       | That reminded me of an interesting Yudkowsky article [1] about
       | how a utopia requires "high challenge" :
       | 
       | "So this is the ultimate end of the prophecy of technological
       | progress--just staring at a screen that says "YOU WIN", forever."
       | 
       | [1] https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/29vqqmGNxNRGzffEj/high-
       | chall...
        
       | Amorymeltzer wrote:
       | Okay.
       | 
       | At the risk of giving something away, it's definitely worth
       | reading _Moby Dick_. I 've tried to read some "old" "classics" in
       | the past few years, and truth be told a lot of them can fall
       | flat, feeling not only from but also _stuck_ in a different era.
       | _Moby Dick_ is something I think folks should read. You won 't
       | necessarily love it, but it's so clearly an accomplishment that I
       | think it's worth it. Even the much-maligned whale- and whaling-
       | specific chapters say so much about the craft (is it even a
       | novel?) of writing. It's the book that (thus far anyway) has most
       | made me want to write a book.
        
         | onlyusername wrote:
         | At the very least, it "saves" your game between sessions, so
         | you can continue where you left off. I wonder if anyone has
         | made a book to be read this way so you can easily know where
         | you stopped reading?
        
           | root_axis wrote:
           | All the games on the Kindle console support this feature.
        
           | kyle-rb wrote:
           | Hmm, this could be kinda nice, especially if you want to
           | ctrl+f search for a previous passage, without the risk of
           | jumping ahead and spoiling yourself. I wonder if any ebook
           | readers (software or devices) have implemented that specific
           | feature.
        
         | klenwell wrote:
         | I agree. It is an amazing, quasi-anachronistic novel. Speaking
         | of Utopia, Melville offers his own vision of it in Chapter 94,
         | A Squeeze of the Hand:
         | 
         |  _Squeeze! squeeze! squeeze! all the morning long; I squeezed
         | that sperm till I myself almost melted into it; I squeezed that
         | sperm till a strange sort of insanity came over me; and I found
         | myself unwittingly squeezing my co-laborers' hands in it,
         | mistaking their hands for the gentle globules. Such an
         | abounding, affectionate, friendly, loving feeling did this
         | avocation beget; that at last I was continually squeezing their
         | hands, and looking up into their eyes sentimentally; as much as
         | to say,--Oh! my dear fellow beings, why should we longer
         | cherish any social acerbities, or know the slightest ill-humor
         | or envy! Come; let us squeeze hands all round; nay, let us all
         | squeeze ourselves into each other; let us squeeze ourselves
         | universally into the very milk and sperm of kindness.
         | 
         | Would that I could keep squeezing that sperm for ever! For now,
         | since by many prolonged, repeated experiences, I have perceived
         | that in all cases man must eventually lower, or at least shift,
         | his conceit of attainable felicity; not placing it anywhere in
         | the intellect or the fancy; but in the wife, the heart, the
         | bed, the table, the saddle, the fireside, the country; now that
         | I have perceived all this, I am ready to squeeze case
         | eternally. In thoughts of the visions of the night, I saw long
         | rows of angels in paradise, each with his hands in a jar of
         | spermaceti._
         | 
         | It's an odd fish.
        
           | blast wrote:
           | Good lord. May I ask what sort of sperm he was squeezing?
        
             | munificent wrote:
             | Spermaceti: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spermaceti
        
             | Amorymeltzer wrote:
             | Sperm Whale, specifically Spermaceti:
             | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spermaceti
        
         | googlryas wrote:
         | I disagree - nobody "should" read Moby Dick. As in, don't read
         | it because you saw it on a "Top 10 books" list, or had it
         | recommended to you by a friend. Everyone on their reading
         | journey is at a different spot, and got there a different way.
         | So I never recommend Moby Dick to anyone, even though it was
         | one of my favorite reading experiences of my life, for fear
         | that it isn't for a person at a certain time. Once they're
         | ready for it, they may find it, and love it.
        
         | the_snooze wrote:
         | >Even the much-maligned whale- and whaling-specific chapters
         | say so much about the craft (is it even a novel?) of writing.
         | 
         | It's been a while since I read Moby-Dick in my 11th grade
         | English class, but the impression I got is that it's a whaling
         | ship's operating handbook with some revenge-plot narrative
         | flair here and there.
        
         | er4hn wrote:
         | Moby Dick is a combination of a beautiful story combined with
         | the most boring details imaginable about whaling. As far as I
         | recall those details add nothing to the story beyond Melville
         | being worried he would not have enough "street cred" with
         | whalers unless he added enough details to show that he knows
         | what real whaling is all about.
         | 
         | I have often been tempted to use a razor and go Jefferson Bible
         | on that book, cutting out all the pointless detailed sections.
        
       | lacoolj wrote:
       | setInterval(generateUtopias, 10)
        
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       | crumpled wrote:
       | function generateUtopiae(){
       | document.getElementById("utopiaGain").click();
       | setTimeout(generateUtopiae, 10); }
       | 
       | generateUtopiae()
        
         | Timon3 wrote:
         | Alternatively click on the button and hold the Enter key :)
        
         | crumpled wrote:
         | I put that in my console and watched...
        
         | csours wrote:
         | setInterval( generateUtopias, 10)
        
       | Exuma wrote:
       | Total utopias: 1123.4
       | 
       | YOU WIN: UTOPIA ACHIEVED
        
       | frizlab wrote:
       | Damn, now I kind of want to know what happens when one clicks
       | through the whole book...
        
         | crumpled wrote:
         | Me too. Someone please complete this and report back.
        
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         | tylershuster wrote:
         | Just view source. Alternately: setInterval(function ()
         | {document.getElementById('generate').click();}, 50);
        
         | aidenn0 wrote:
         | > ...wow, that was a pretty good book.
         | 
         | > Hope you liked it.
         | 
         | > Thanks again for creating a utopia, by the way.
         | 
         | > Probably wouldn't have had time to read that book if you
         | hadn't.
         | 
         | I created another 100 utopias after that with no update.
        
           | throwitaway156 wrote:
           | You did a setInterval, right?
           | 
           | Right?
        
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