[HN Gopher] Mac ROM-Inator II Restock and Partnerships
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       Mac ROM-Inator II Restock and Partnerships
        
       Author : electricant
       Score  : 32 points
       Date   : 2023-09-11 18:18 UTC (3 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (www.bigmessowires.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (www.bigmessowires.com)
        
       | johnklos wrote:
       | Modifiable ROM images let us do all sorts of things like add
       | support for more memory via higher density SIMMs (Quadra /
       | Centris 610, 650, 800), add support for non-native and not
       | normally supported hardware, fixing bugs, and so on.
       | 
       | I'm considering getting one so I can have a low power, boots-
       | straight-into-use LocalTalk to ethernet bridge with print drivers
       | and printer sharing. Another option is network booting, since
       | network file sharing is so incredibly easy with classic Macs.
       | 
       | Fun!
        
         | jandrese wrote:
         | Apple liked to artificially cripple their machines in the ROM.
         | I had a Mac LC as a kid that was limited to 10MB of memory
         | because otherwise it might affect sales of the Mac II Ci. Being
         | able to remove these artificial limits is great.
        
         | dougg3 wrote:
         | One interesting thing I've discovered recently is that everyone
         | (including myself) is doing the ROM SIMM pinout slightly wrong
         | when used in Quadras. The existing programmable SIMMs seem to
         | work in the 610/650/800 and 700/900/950, but I think the
         | onboard ROMs aren't being properly disabled, as someone
         | discovered when trying one in an LC 475. I'm probably going to
         | write a blog post about the topic soon.
         | 
         | Also, some exciting news is that ROM disk hacks are definitely
         | on the way for the Quadras. It's possible to unlock the full 8
         | MB of ROM space in several of the Quadras. I've seen video of a
         | Quadra booting from a 7 MB ROM disk. Too bad most of them after
         | the 700/900/950 don't have the socket populated :-( The pads
         | are there at least, for people who dare to add it themselves...
        
       | sneak wrote:
       | > _Friendly competition is great, but it creates a potential
       | dilemma for me if someone buys another vendor's ROM SIMM and
       | reprograms it with BMOW's base ROM in order to get the on-the-fly
       | ROM disk decompression and other features. It could turn into a
       | situation where my base ROM software is subsidizing another
       | competing product. To compound the problem, I didn't have any
       | clear usage policy or "license" for the base ROM to say whether
       | this type of use was OK. Furthermore my FC8 compression algorithm
       | is free open-source, but the BMOW base ROM which incorporates it
       | is not. This all created a large gray area._
       | 
       | Imagine thinking that copyright should protect your revenue
       | stream that is based on making tools for infringing the
       | copyrights of others.
       | 
       | Admittedly the thing they're making unauthorized derivative works
       | from (the Mac ROM) is abandonware, but the idea is still silly
       | and hypocritical to me. Copyrights are ridiculous to begin with,
       | ignoring them in one case while trying to wield them against your
       | community in another is extra ridiculous.
        
         | wmf wrote:
         | I am also opposed to "paying to pirate" but that's not how I
         | see this situation. He has added significant value over the
         | original Mac ROM and that's what he's charging for. Acting like
         | nobody's allowed to make money hurts communities.
        
       | indrora wrote:
       | One thing I find interesting is the "please don't back this up"
       | mentality of some of the older gray area content.
       | 
       | I get it, you don't want (bigcorp, chinese clones, etc) causing
       | you problems. But when you die, what happens? Who's going to be
       | there to pick up the parts?
       | 
       | I feel like so many things should get hucked right onto Internet
       | Archive as soon as someone says "please, no, don't" just out of
       | pure self preservation.
        
         | snvzz wrote:
         | Definitely.
         | 
         | Archiving wouldn't go anywhere if we didn't ignore individuals
         | for the benefit of humanity as a whole.
         | 
         | By all means, back it all up.
        
         | [deleted]
        
       | brian_herman wrote:
       | Wow this looks amazing.
        
       | NoMoreNicksLeft wrote:
       | Nice. I've got the ethernet card for my SE/30, and I always meant
       | to upgrade it to 128 megs of ram. Maybe I should get this.
        
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