[HN Gopher] Layoffs.fyi ___________________________________________________________________ Layoffs.fyi Author : hammock Score : 85 points Date : 2023-09-16 20:28 UTC (2 hours ago) (HTM) web link (layoffs.fyi) (TXT) w3m dump (layoffs.fyi) | iwonthecase wrote: | The time series chart shows a pretty strong decrease in the | number of layoffs the last month, which is something I've noticed | on the opposite side, where I'm getting a lot more interviews | recently. Might just be my imagination though. | | Also I did some analysis on this dataset a few months ago, and it | seems like layoffs tend to happen near the beginning of the | month, but I'm not sure why that would be. | | Also, as an aside, this doesn't cover all places and I'd guess | smaller startups would be less likely to show up. My last place | went from about 45 to 10 employees over the last year (layoffs, | RTO bs, terminations for "performance," etc.) and isn't on this | list, for example. | tempsy wrote: | I'm mostly interested in forced resignations due to not wanting | to RTO. | | The flip side is impact to "zoom towns" that were booming with | remote workers and whether a bunch of new listings from RTO | workers will drag certain housing markets lower | cle wrote: | It would be interesting to count people who were likely forced | out due to return-to-office mandates. | cebert wrote: | I'm a huge proponent of RTO, but that's a personal decision not | a layoff. | paxys wrote: | It's not a personal decision when the job was advertised as | fully remote, you were hired in city A with the expectation | that you would continue to live there, and then a few months | later the company said "move your family 2000 miles to city B | or resign". | | If the company changes the terms of employment and you don't | accept the new terms, that's not on you. The company is the | one deciding to fire you, plain and simple. | paulcole wrote: | If the company can change the terms of employment and you | somehow believed that your job was fully remote forever | that's on you. | finikytou wrote: | its not a decision when it is forced... | halfjoking wrote: | Tell that to the vaccine mandate crowd. | | Potentially harmful, forced gene therapy injections weren't | in my original employment contract, just like in-office | work wasn't in fully remote workers contract. | cebert wrote: | The employee chose not to return to the office though. | toomuchtodo wrote: | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constructive_dismissal | tnel77 wrote: | Hard to argue with that logic. | gusgus01 wrote: | There's definitely still a discussion around the concept | of constructive dismissal that could be had. Although a | lot of that has to do with the exact parameters of the | RTO, so it would be company to company. | toomuchtodo wrote: | I have provided guidance to several folks over the last | few years with regards to taking a remote role. I have | told all of them to require in their offer letter that | the role be defined as remote without an in office | component (it helps if you don't take a role at an org | that has an office within 50 miles of your home address). | I have also provided them with contact information for an | employment attorney who will provide a letter to their | employer with regards to their employment arrangement | being remote. In no cases has the employer successfully | required the employee return to office, and only once was | the attorney necessary to push the issue. | | n=1. If you're taking a remote role, have it codified in | your offer letter. Retain that as an artifact in the | event you need to engage legally. Always be prepared for | your job to end at any time due to the state of US | employment, but also set yourself up for success whenever | possible. | | And if you're not organizing and unionizing to secure | remote work as a right at your org, you should consider | it. Very favorable environment at the moment to do so. | lmeyerov wrote: | ACT 1 | | "We're hiring remote, being in NYC or London or Peru is | totally fine, geographic diversity of talent is a | strength! Own your schedule!" | | ACT 2 | | "Sorry folks, we just had a downround, can't control the | market. | | BTW in totally unrelated news, RTO next week. Folks in | NYC & London & Peru, you can keep your job, just move to | SF HQ. We will not pay for movers, higher SF | compensation, etc. Also, it's starting on Monday, no | excuses: We can't wait for your kids to finish the school | year, your wife to get a new medical specialist, nor help | you find a preschool for your youngest. I know it's | annoying, it took me a year to get through a waitlist for | ours, haha SF. Totally not a layoff... though HR does | tell us to expect 10-20% attrition..." | arrowsmith wrote: | Is this legal? | exgl wrote: | Notable that the latest layoff there (and a pretty large one, at | that) is Airtable, which is the system the site relies heavily | upon. | tibbon wrote: | Is this dog fooding the app? | syndicatedjelly wrote: | Why is it okay to list the specific employees who were laid off? | What if they don't want that information to be publicized to the | internet? | yreg wrote: | Those lists shouldn't contain people who haven't submitted | their names themselves. | JoRyGu wrote: | Shouldn't as in they might contain names against people's | consent and that's bad, or shouldn't as in there is some | process in place for people to submit their names and they | derive the data from that process? | Bluecobra wrote: | If you go to the "Lists of Employees Laid Off" there's a link | to a Google spreadsheet. It seems to be gleaned/scraped from | LinkedIn, so I guess if you keep your profile up to date you | will show up in this list... | mkmk wrote: | Typically these lists are created by one of the laid off | employees or the HR team that laid them off, and are opt- | in. They are circulated to help those who were laid off | find new jobs. | syndicatedjelly wrote: | That's not cool at all | ssnistfajen wrote: | Why? LinkedIn is public info. These people willingly | posted on LinkedIn about changes in their job statuses. | | The amount of details contained in these spreadsheets | (previous job title, YoE, location, work preferences, | contact info, etc.) are pretty clearly meant to match | with potential employers | [deleted] | shrikant wrote: | Is this crowd sourced, or is there an element of curation? My ex- | employer is on there twice as Kape and Kape Technologies. | toomuchtodo wrote: | It is crowdsourced but also curated by an individual. | dcoleyoung1 wrote: | true aficionados of tech booms remember | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fucked_Company | garrickvanburen wrote: | Legend ___________________________________________________________________ (page generated 2023-09-16 23:00 UTC)