[HN Gopher] Seeking comments on the Data Catalog (DCAT) standard...
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       Seeking comments on the Data Catalog (DCAT) standard v3.0
        
       Author : metasemantic
       Score  : 64 points
       Date   : 2023-09-18 14:20 UTC (8 hours ago)
        
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       | westurner wrote:
       | - [ ] DOC: The JSON-LD context file links 404: https://doi-
       | do.github.io/dcat-us/#json-ld-context
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       | Also, it says the schema for physical units are specified by this
       | spec?
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       | FWIU, QUDT Quantities, Units, Dimensions, and Types URIs MAY be
       | used with https://Schema.org/QuantitativeValue; and neither CSVW
       | nor Model for Tabular Data and Metadata on the Web specify how to
       | indicate physical quantities and units with a controlled
       | vocabulary with URIs?
        
       | jhoechtl wrote:
       | How is open data these days? I have the feeling it lost a lot of
       | steam?
        
         | jedsundwall wrote:
         | Open data is dead, long live open data!
         | https://radiant.earth/blog/2023/05/we-dont-talk-about-open-d...
         | 
         | Open data is undeniably a good and important thing, but a lot
         | of people have stumbled thinking that merely making data open
         | would make data useful. It's time to focus on creating useful
         | data products, some of which will be made available under an
         | open license, some of which will not.
        
       | isodev wrote:
       | Does anyone know why is there a "-US" suffix in the name? Is it
       | an extension to the standard DCAT v3?
        
         | meepmorp wrote:
         | > DCAT-US v3 is not a "new" standard; it is a "profile" of or
         | implementation of the World Wide Web Consortium's (W3C) DCAT
         | standard.
         | 
         | It was hidden at the top of the list of bullet points in the
         | readme.
        
         | markus92 wrote:
         | Yeah it is. It basically narrows the spec down a bit. For
         | example, it has some specific classes like the dcat-us
         | AccessRestriction class, but it also mandates the publisher of
         | a catalog (collection of datasets), while vanilla DCAT has it
         | as a recommended field.
         | 
         | In Europe, the EU promotes their own DCAT-AP profile a bit
         | more. Same purpose, quite widely used actually by governments,
         | but not completely compatible with DCAT-US even though both are
         | extensions of DCAT. Fun fact, DCAT-AP v1 predates the
         | standardization of regular DCAT v1, which led to some minor
         | inconsistencies. In the subsequent versions that development
         | process is a bit more aligned now.
        
       | abrahms wrote:
       | recommended title update: Replace DCAT with "Data Catalog (DCAT)"
        
         | dang wrote:
         | Ok, done. Thanks!
        
       | 1MachineElf wrote:
       | I haven't kept up with National Information Exchange Model
       | (NIEM)[0] since the first Obama term. Is this related somehow?
       | 
       | [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NIEMOpen
        
       | jiggawatts wrote:
       | If I searched the Internet high and low for a whole day, I doubt
       | I could find a better example of this phenomenon for which I
       | don't have a name: standards that exist to keep standard
       | authorities busy. Standards that are actually seventeen layers of
       | standards, all developed in isolation from the real ecosystem.
       | Standards that will have between zero and at most three
       | implementations, all mutually incompatible.
        
       | peter_l_downs wrote:
       | For more information about DCAT-US, click through to
       | 
       | https://github.com/DOI-DO/dcat-us/wiki/What-is-DCAT%E2%80%90...
       | 
       | > DCAT-US is the metadata standard associated with the
       | requirements for enterprise data inventories in the OMB M-13-13
       | open data policy and the Foundations for Evidence-Based
       | Policymaking Act Title II, OPEN Government Data Act (Evidence
       | Act). The Evidence Act applies to all agencies. These federal
       | policies do not apply to state and local governments which may
       | have their own policies. However, state and local governments are
       | welcome voluntarily to contribute their metadata to Data.gov. To
       | do so, they must publish their metadata using the DCAT-US
       | standard while omitting any federal-specific metadata elements as
       | noted in the documentation.
        
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