[HN Gopher] Volkswagen cuts jobs as demand for EVs plunges ___________________________________________________________________ Volkswagen cuts jobs as demand for EVs plunges Author : Fervicus Score : 23 points Date : 2023-09-24 22:19 UTC (40 minutes ago) (HTM) web link (fortune.com) (TXT) w3m dump (fortune.com) | GenerWork wrote: | Key part of the article: "But orders from corporate clients -- | which account for around 70% of the IDs built at the plant -- | have been plummeting since a federal subsidy for battery-powered | company vehicles expired this month, one of the people said." | cs702 wrote: | Correction: ...as demand for _non-Tesla EVs_ plunges. | | Demand for _Tesla EVs_ is... booming. Tesla sold 83% more cars in | the most recent quarter than in the same quarter a year ago.[a] | | [a] https://digitalassets.tesla.com/tesla- | contents/image/upload/... | bradly wrote: | The actual article has the following title for me: VW is | cutting jobs at its German EV factory because demand is | plunging | | The HN title is: Volkswagen cuts jobs as demand for EVs plunges | | Not sure why the difference but the article cites Tesla demand | of one of the key reasons the demand "is plunging" | userbinator wrote: | Perhaps "as demand for *its EVs plunges" would be more | appropriate, if it fits within the title length limit. | DoesntMatter22 wrote: | Competition is coming for tesla _rolls eyes_ | bearjaws wrote: | They just cut the price on the model x and s. | | They have thousands of model ys with discounts on their website | as they are waiting to be sold at a dealership. | | That not even including all the huge promotions on the model 3. | | I wouldn't say Tesla isn't at least slowing down based on their | nearly 3 month old earnings report. | ggm wrote: | I wish there was a law to expose for all products the rate of | profit, and the implicit and explicit subsidies. It's impossible | to know how EV margins compare to e.g. a minivan or a golf | classic ICE. | panick21_ wrote: | Its funny how the EU is now 'investigating subsidies' in China. | | China has been building this sector for like 30 years. | | While Europeans were so proud of their diesel vehicles and how | clean they were and the Germany companies endlessly talking about | hydrogen and green fuels. While Europe has basically no resource | extraction related to batteries or much of any battery refinement | for most of that period. | | But now that this bears fruit for China the EU is like 'what what | what, I though our brilliant hydrogen plan was gone work'. | rj45jackattack wrote: | I'm sure current interest rates have nothing to do with it :/ | petee wrote: | Is there really any surprise no one wants to pay $45000 for a | compact car? What is the profit margin on EVs that its cheaper to | not sell cars versus making them affordable and within reach of | more customers? | | Edit: actually I can't tell if thats their cheapest car, VWs | website sucks on mobile so I gave up. You'd think it'd be easy to | just show the prices | AniseAbyss wrote: | Volkswagen got big (it's in the name) with building affordable | cars like the Beetle and the Golf. Compact fuel efficient cars | that a nurse or teacher could afford. | fbdab103 wrote: | VW's site sucks on desktop as well. Ultra-wide monitor and I | have to use a hamburger menu to see the navigation bar. | | Using the VW filters, the only electric that I see is the ID.4 | SUV starting at $39k. | | Edit: Just went to Honda and the cheapest electric options are | a CR-V hybrid at $29.5k or the Accord Hybrid at $32k. | version_five wrote: | Canada has given them an 11 figure subsidy to build EVs here... I | wonder how that will play out if there is not the demand. ___________________________________________________________________ (page generated 2023-09-24 23:00 UTC)