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       Show HN: Timbre - An app that finds the best sounds for your sleep
        
       Hey all, I'm currently a solo iOS developer who just released my
       first app, Timbre, onto the App Store (iPhone only for now). Here's
       a demo to show you how it works:
       https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALoPAFb31Bk.  Timbre originally
       came about because I wanted to build a sleep sounds & sleep tracker
       app. I had used Headspace, Calm, Pillow, etc. and figured that
       instead of paying $70 / year I could just build my own app and pay
       $100 / year (not a great plan in retrospect). As I started building
       Timbre, I realized that one of the biggest issues I had with these
       other apps is that I could never really see which sounds genuinely
       helped me sleep. With that in mind, I pivoted on my original idea
       and decided to really hone in on connecting sleep quality and
       sounds.  Using a custom ML model, Apple's CoreML framework and
       HealthKit's sleep stage data, I made it so that Timbre could
       calculate a personal sleep quality score. Therefore, when you
       record a sleep session while listening to a sound, the app can rank
       the sounds you've listened to based on your sleep quality scores
       over time.  Of course, the app also has a smart alarm, offline
       support, sleep analysis and more, but I'd love to get some feedback
       & suggestions from the demo video. Also feel free to ask me any
       questions and I'd be happy to answer them!
        
       Author : bryan-vh
       Score  : 16 points
       Date   : 2023-10-07 18:23 UTC (4 hours ago)
        
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       | DueDilligence wrote:
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       | user_7832 wrote:
       | Bit tangential, but Google Nest's sleep sounds are really nice. I
       | often suspect letting it run through the night significantly
       | boosts the deepness of morning sleep. The hub's radar sleep
       | sensing is pretty neat too.
        
       | liamwire wrote:
       | Unavailable in Australia, it seems.
        
       | jamil7 wrote:
       | Not available outside of the US
        
       | pizzafeelsright wrote:
       | I have always appreciated: Silence. Pure silence. Dark as
       | possible. About 56F.
       | 
       | The kid has white noise and Alexa playing at volume 5-6 all
       | night.
        
         | podgietaru wrote:
         | I have tinnitus :(
        
         | genter wrote:
         | I prefer my neighbors Dodge Charger with no muffler. Nothing
         | will scare the shit out of you at 1:00 in the morning like the
         | rumble of a V8.
        
         | Probiotic6081 wrote:
         | Can you set it on a timer?
        
       | ada1981 wrote:
       | I was hoping this was going to somehow monitor my sleep and split
       | test sounds throughout the night and dynamically generate sounds.
       | 
       | Maybe in a 2.0!
        
       | olah_1 wrote:
       | > based on your sleep quality scores
       | 
       | Do I need an Apple Watch in order to track sleep quality? What if
       | I only have an iPhone?
        
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       | EntreEden wrote:
       | Looks really clean, I like the design.
       | 
       | For the demo video I wish there was a voiceover explaining what
       | you're clicking through or what the features are. Like Someone
       | posted it'd be nice to understand how the sleep quality is
       | calculated.
        
         | user_7832 wrote:
         | Why was this comment dead? It seems quite normal for such a
         | thread.
        
       | Probiotic6081 wrote:
       | I sometimes listen to Deutschlandfunk to fall asleep. The
       | programming is great, but I need to mute it or turn it off
       | entirely at ~23:57 flat or else I'll puke because in a disgusting
       | exhibit of nationalism, they play the German and the European
       | anthems at the end of every single day. But as another commenter
       | has pointed out, their diverse and thought-provoking yet
       | entertaining programming is great for tuning out your inner
       | monologue and help you fall asleep when you feel stressed or
       | anxious.
        
       | raydiatian wrote:
       | > I could never really see which sounds genuinely helped me sleep
       | 
       | Have you tried "no sound"? Your free competitor is occupying
       | market share and you need to figure out a way to pivot and
       | compete.
       | 
       | Lmfao.
        
         | swalsh wrote:
         | "no sound" doesn't work for me, in the absence of sound all I
         | hear is myself, and my thoughts. Meditation apps actually work
         | really well in helping me quiet my thoughts and fall asleep.
         | Funny enough, economic or history lectures work really well
         | too. I love those topics, but it clears the thoughts in my head
         | I just see a story playing out in my head as I fall asleep.
         | 
         | One of the major issues is I have relatively high anxiety, and
         | i'll just be stuck in a stress loop keeping me awake.
        
         | beebeepka wrote:
         | The entire concept of sleep/walk/calory tracking is entirely
         | alien to me. I really can't help but laugh at this madness.
         | 
         | However, it seems reasonable to me that some individuals, not
         | necessarily people, may need actual noise. Computer nerds
         | waking up when power goes out (fans and HDDs turning silent) is
         | not unheard of.
         | 
         | Normal is often the state of things when someone was still
         | young/new at a place
        
       | IG_Semmelweiss wrote:
       | >>> using a custom ML model, Apple's CoreML framework and
       | HealthKit's sleep stage data,
       | 
       | Can you elaborate what data are you using for ML purposes?
       | Specifically, what permissions is the iphone requestion to
       | collect data ?
       | 
       | What exactly is allowing you to make assertions about quality to
       | sleep, except logical stuff like ambient sounds like snoring,
       | etc?
       | 
       | Do i need an apple watch??
        
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