[HN Gopher] Mercedes-Benz eActros 600 e-truck
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Mercedes-Benz eActros 600 e-truck
Author : belter
Score : 30 points
Date : 2023-10-10 20:49 UTC (2 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (www.mercedes-benz-trucks.com)
(TXT) w3m dump (www.mercedes-benz-trucks.com)
| TheAlchemist wrote:
| They are crazy ! Publishing detailed stuff like truck weight,
| batteries charging times.
|
| I much prefer the Tesla way - a truck that was released 1 year
| ago (!), and still, nobody knows it's weight, range nor price.
|
| Jokes aside, it looks very good ! Is there somewhere a real-life
| comparison between all those trucks ? (not like the one that was
| recently posted - which included detailed, by the minute data
| about battery / distance travelled but ... not weight the truck
| was carrying)
| redox99 wrote:
| What are the specs? The linked web page is atrocious and can't
| find any kind of spec there.
| ht85 wrote:
| https://www.mercedes-benz-
| trucks.com/en_GB/emobility/world/o...
| api wrote:
| Not good enough for long haul trucking (at least in the USA
| with its massive distances) but definitely good enough for
| delivery trucks and short/medium range regional stuff.
| gumby wrote:
| I think a pretty big percentage of US container trucking
| is railhead-destination rather than long distance
| source->destination. It feels like a lot of freight is
| transported by truck when you are on the freeway, but if
| you go to Europe or India (where rail is mainly
| passengers) you'll find the roads comparatively choked
| with trucks.
|
| I'd love to see some numbers though -- this is all
| surmise.
| w-m wrote:
| That seems to be for the previous version, not the
| announced 600 kWh one.
| [deleted]
| ushakov wrote:
| Same goes for the Tesla Roadster...
| dieselgate wrote:
| I love the diversified markets of Mercedes-Benz (Volvo too in the
| context of trucks) - sort of reminds me of Lamborghini tractors.
| Great to see their heavy EV offering
| laurencerowe wrote:
| Neither of these are still cars-to-trucks companies, they just
| share a brand.
|
| Mercedes-Benz (cars and light commercial vehicles) spun out its
| heavy commercial vehicle business in 2021.
|
| Volvo Group (heavy commercial vehicles, marine, industrial)
| sold its car operation to Ford in 1999, which then sold it to
| Geely in 2010.
|
| Before them Rolls-Royce (aerospace, gas turbines, marine,
| nuclear) spun out its car business in 1973.
| sho_hn wrote:
| Amusing little anecdote: The company used to be called
| Daimler, with Mercedes-Benz being a brand. As part of the
| split, the cars & vans unit renamed itself to Mercedes-Benz.
| Employees got little "Founding Member" stickers for their
| badges as a result - for a 100+ years old company :-)
| cromka wrote:
| Wonder how to they handle branding issues, though? For
| example infringement? They can't possibly have all entities
| go after the offenders, they must coordinate that somehow?
| Not to mention logo or other branding changes.
| joe5150 wrote:
| Usually one company will own the trademarks and license
| them to the other, so only one of the companies is
| responsible for managing the IP. E.g. the Rolls-Royce IP is
| owned by Rolls-Royce (the aerospace company) and licensed
| to the company that builds Rolls-Royce-branded cars
| (currently BMW). The contracts probably stipulate whether
| and how the spin-off has to handle a logo redesign or
| whatever else.
| sho_hn wrote:
| If this blows your mind, have a look at how many different
| companies make and sell products under the Philips brand
| some time :-)
| UncleOxidant wrote:
| Lamborghini tractors came before Lamborghini cars.
| idontwantthis wrote:
| And they only started making cars out of spite.
| treprinum wrote:
| Countach humiliated the Italian blacksmith.
| [deleted]
| whalesalad wrote:
| At some point the US abandoned cabovers and moved towards
| conventional cab trucks (with the long nose) which has the
| benefit of being more aerodynamic. I know European trucks are
| bound by more strict regulations and roads are often so small to
| warrant a cabover but why hasn't long haul evolved? With EV's
| especially it seems like a conventional cab would have a lot
| better range than a cabover.
| w-m wrote:
| I learned from a German hands-on video [0] on the Mercedes
| truck that there's already a law that allows for up to 90 cm
| long noses for aerodynamic design [1]. But it seems no
| manufacturer has a model making use of that yet. I don't think
| we will see a US style truck design though. If you want to
| deliver to any European city, the US it's simply not feasible
| to go longer.
|
| [0]: https://youtu.be/AdgcShJJaBc
|
| [1]: https://trans.info/en/more-aerodynamic-truck-cabins-come-
| to-...
| mcsniff wrote:
| What does "locally emissions-free" mean? Exactly what I think it
| does?
|
| Build everything in third world, ahem, developing countries, and
| so consumers can live guilt-free?
| fragmede wrote:
| Germany has a law about saying things are free. Like, you can't
| say pizza delivery is free because it isn't - it's wrapped up
| in the price of the pizza. In that way, electric vehicles
| aren't emissions free because they're charged by polluting
| power plants (most of the time).
| input_sh wrote:
| I mean yes, but actually no.
|
| In this context it means that, on top of selling you trucks,
| they're also interested in upselling you by selling you
| chargers, charge management software, consulting you on power
| requirements, liaising with power companies... things of that
| nature, therefore helping you be emission free.
| MarkusWandel wrote:
| To me that's just typical German straightfowardness. You can
| drive it in a downtown where pollution and noise are strictly
| regulated. That's not to say that emissions don't happen
| elsewhere - to build the truck and to charge it.
| numpad0 wrote:
| Sounds like a tongue-in-cheek way of saying "EV generally has
| larger CO2 footprint but if you insist air in the city must be
| clean" to me as well.
| roomey wrote:
| I thought it meant for local delivery services, as opposed to
| long haul.
| ChatGTP wrote:
| I think it means while using it, smoke doesn't come out of it.
| Maybe while charging some emissions happen ?
| barbazoo wrote:
| Depends on how electricity is generated I'd assume.
| LMYahooTFY wrote:
| It may be a ways off replacing long haul routes, but for short
| routes in ubran environments the dividends from reduced emissions
| seem great.
|
| I imagine in Europe there will be more use cases. In the US 150
| mile range (with basically no traffic) fully loaded seems
| virtually useless. (Using their range calculator with 100% load,
| 50% load is a marginal range increase, and what about uphill?)
| AnotherGoodName wrote:
| There's no way to link (the website is terrible and navigation
| doesn't update the URL) but i think this was pointing out that
| there's now a 500km+ (310mile) range truck. That's what the 600
| refers to, 600kwh. The previous truck had 180kwh.
|
| Click "Find out more" after scrolling to "EACTROS LONGHAUL"
| pfannkuchen wrote:
| I was going to complain about the naming, but I see it's a semi
| so I guess naming doesn't matter. Though it would be nice if you
| could tell from the name that it was a semi.
| numpad0 wrote:
| That's like saying Mac Pro is an ambiguous name for a computer.
| pfannkuchen wrote:
| That's fair, but now that you mention it I do also think
| that.
| ska wrote:
| It's not on the consumer facing site, right? I think everything
| there is industrial purpose. And the "Actros" line is all
| tractors.
| jeffbee wrote:
| Surprisingly charges at 160kW. There are passenger cars that more
| than double that figure.
| jakedata wrote:
| This or something similar would be my ideal RV. Cover the top
| with solar panels and you could park indefinitely. To top up for
| trips, many RV facilities have 220v power for charging and I
| could afford to wait. For boondocking, do it "Martian" style and
| have a stack of folded panels ready to deploy.
| briffle wrote:
| Isuzu also has an electric chassis truck:
| https://www.isuzucv.com/en/nseries/nseries_ev
|
| A west coast company already takes Isuzu 4x4 trucks and turns
| them into pretty amazing campers: https://earthcruiser.com/
|
| The have a whole new line for electric pickups, starting with
| the Hummer EV: https://earthcruiser.com/reserve-your-gmc-
| hummer-ev-earthcru...
| jakedata wrote:
| Hummer is arguably a much better name for an EV than an
| internal combustion vehicle.
| gumballindie wrote:
| This is great! I hope germany turns around its dwindling car
| making industry, and evs are clearly the way to go. Now only if
| europe could solve its energy crisis.
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