[HN Gopher] Temporal Databases (1986) [pdf]
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       Temporal Databases (1986) [pdf]
        
       Author : LAC-Tech
       Score  : 18 points
       Date   : 2023-10-26 08:51 UTC (14 hours ago)
        
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       | synthc wrote:
       | XTDB is a recent implementation of these ideas. In their docs
       | they call it a bitemporal database, but it seems to match what is
       | called a temporal database in the paper
        
         | dragonwriter wrote:
         | Right, "bitemporal" later became established for the two-time-
         | dimensions model here, with "temporal" being broader and
         | including valid-time-only systems.
        
           | refset wrote:
           | Agreed, this is accurate. I work on XTDB and was able to
           | speak with Richard Snodgrass (author of the paper) a couple
           | of years ago. During our conversation we discussed how his
           | research was primarily focused on handling valid-time, with
           | transaction-time (a.k.a. system-time per SQL:2011) as a
           | secondary concern. In contrast XTDB was inspired by the
           | functional programming / immutability / database-as-a-value
           | vision behind Datomic but with a desire for something more
           | powerful than just the transaction-time capabilities.
           | Essentially we arrived at 'bitemporal' from the opposite
           | direction. This blog post covers the perspective somewhat:
           | https://vvvvalvalval.github.io/posts/2017-07-08-Datomic-
           | this...
        
       | withinboredom wrote:
       | Oh oh! I built one of these at work a 3-4 years ago! It was
       | awesome! We were using it to store features for the AI which
       | needed to query them as of a specific time. It was built on top
       | of Hadoop/HBase.
       | 
       | AMA, it was scrapped eventually, so I don't think anyone cares if
       | I share details.
        
       | fipar wrote:
       | I found Time and Relational Theory a very interesting read on
       | this topic: https://www.oreilly.com/library/view/time-and-
       | relational/978...
        
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