[HN Gopher] Large Balloon Reflector: a potentially game-changing...
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       Large Balloon Reflector: a potentially game-changing antenna design
        
       Author : foota
       Score  : 33 points
       Date   : 2023-10-27 21:08 UTC (1 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (www.nasa.gov)
 (TXT) w3m dump (www.nasa.gov)
        
       | kunwon1 wrote:
       | Makes me wonder about an inflatable balloon antenna for amateur
       | radio. I wonder how hard it would be to do this sort of
       | fabrication (aluminizing the inside of a balloon) as an amateur
       | 
       | Better pictures here https://www.freefallaerospace.com/nasa-
       | balloon/
        
         | itishappy wrote:
         | buy space blanket (aluminized mylar)
         | 
         | tape it over a garbage can
         | 
         | suck
         | 
         | ???
         | 
         | profit
        
           | cwkoss wrote:
           | greenpowerscience is a fun channel who did a neat version of
           | this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1GV3FIOR6E
        
       | dmbche wrote:
       | I can't see a picture of the concave shape, I was under the
       | impression that the design is that one third of the sphere is
       | collapsed inside itself to make a nice concave antenna that's
       | cheap and light - is this what's happenning?
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       | Edit0: Nope! Part of the sphere is transparent, and the inside is
       | reflective. Nothing collapsed.
       | 
       | And it's working very similarily to a normal parabolic antennae,
       | but being inflatable it's way lighter/smaller, leaving more
       | weight and room for power and instruments. Massive win!
        
       | aimor wrote:
       | A good idea. I wonder how robust it is to small debris, I assume
       | it won't pop but will the thin material fold up on itself if
       | there's a hole?
        
         | Terr_ wrote:
         | I guess it depends on the odds (impacts per cross-section per
         | time) for different debris size/composition/speeds in the
         | planned orbit. I'm sure _somebody 's_ studying that, but I'm
         | also sure it must involve a lot of complicated tables.
         | 
         | The particular mini-satellite is slated for a 6-month mission,
         | so presumably they think it'll survive at least that long.
        
         | morcheeba wrote:
         | That was my first thought, too. My ideas was to make the
         | plastic UV-curable so it would become rigid and not require
         | inflation. I looked it up, and that's what they're doing - UV-
         | curable ribs. It's also not a sphere; it has an inflatable
         | ring. Pictures & paper here:
         | https://asteroid.arizona.edu/KABAND_Inflatable_v3_public.pdf
        
       | ortusdux wrote:
       | Reminds me of Project Echo
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       | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Echo
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       | Remastered documentary:
       | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19kAuAVAnDc
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       | Scott Manley: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19kAuAVAnDc
        
         | itishappy wrote:
         | Also NASA's Inflatable Antenna Experiment, which looks like it
         | spun off a successful commercial product.
         | 
         | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inflatable_Antenna_Experiment
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         | https://spinoff.nasa.gov/Spinoff2010/ps_5.html
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         | https://www.cubic.com/inflatable-satellite-antenna
        
       | uoaei wrote:
       | I'm a little confused because the article uses 'spherical' and
       | 'parabolic' seemingly interchangeably. I'm sure the scientists
       | know what they're doing but just found the imprecision a bit odd
       | for a nasa.gov article.
        
         | andreareina wrote:
         | I understood it as, the structure is spherical, with one
         | parabolic surface that acts as the antenna.
        
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