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       Hey there  Some time ago I built a site that generates AI pictures
       in a style of GitHub logo (https://octoart.vercel.app/). It's
       completely free, and even official GitHub accounts in Twitter and
       Instagram (yes turns out they have Instagram) posted about it. It
       was fun.  So I thought it would be cool to build an app that works
       with any logo, so people can generate nice branded pictures with
       their logo.  I went on to build https://logopictureai.com/. It's
       build with Next.js, Replicate API and Supabase.  It's a very early
       version, I built it in a weekend.  It works like this: your upload
       a logo, type a prompt (or select a predefined one), select number
       of variations to generate and click a button. Images will be
       delivered to your email in 2-3 minutes.  As I said, it's pretty
       early and I am not sure if it's really useful. It works decently
       with most logos, but sometimes can generate something weird.
       Anyways, would love to hear your thought. Thanks!
        
       Author : igorkotua
       Score  : 48 points
       Date   : 2023-10-30 16:54 UTC (6 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (logopictureai.com)
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       | nevodavid10 wrote:
       | What model in replicate did you use?
        
         | igorkotua wrote:
         | I use a model which is trained to generate QR codes, it works
         | well with logo too
        
         | omneity wrote:
         | You can use vanilla sdxl with controlnet.
        
       | ibdf wrote:
       | This looks interesting, but honestly, for a tool that can create
       | infinite amount of images it's odd that you only have 1 low res
       | logo example on the right side side (which seems to come from
       | your other project). It's not enough to tell what the
       | capabilities of the tool are, and it's not enough to get me to
       | pay for it. I would suggest either a free-trial (even if it's
       | super short) or provide more examples with different type of
       | logos.
       | 
       | FYI: all links on the bottom of your page lead to a 404. (Contact
       | us Terms & Conditions Refund Policy Blog)
        
         | igorkotua wrote:
         | Yep, website is not polished yet. Definitely should add more
         | pictures, agree
         | 
         | I can also add like ~5 free images to new accounts when they
         | sign up. Adding more might get pricey for me.
         | 
         | Thanks for your thoughts
        
           | solardev wrote:
           | Side note: Just nitpicking, but on the topic of website
           | polish, you might want to hire a copywriter (or an AI, I
           | guess) to rephrase the English text on the page. It sounds
           | very unnatural right now.
           | 
           | Example: "You can no longer puzzle over where to get
           | beautiful pictures" makes it sound like "You can't solve this
           | picture puzzle anymore", which isn't what you meant. Maybe
           | something like "Stop worrying and let LogoPicture make you
           | the perfect brand image" or "Make a beautiful photo with your
           | logo", etc.
           | 
           | But that's just one of the many awkward phrases on the page.
        
             | isoprophlex wrote:
             | Also, several grating spelling mistakes. Even running the
             | copy thru chatgpt would drastically improve matters.
        
             | igorkotua wrote:
             | Thanks for pointing out, yeah it was very fast paced
        
       | wscourge wrote:
       | This website looks real bad on my phone. Google Pixel 4a (5G).
        
         | igorkotua wrote:
         | Yeah sorry about that, it's not mobile optimized yet
        
         | wepple wrote:
         | Same on iPhone; clicked away immediately
        
       | RosanaAnaDana wrote:
       | The number of people hijacking foss tools and wrapping them up
       | behind paywalls is hilarious.
        
         | garrrikkotua wrote:
         | What do you mean hijacking?
        
         | drusepth wrote:
         | Really just shows how little effort is put into making those
         | foss tools easy to use for the layperson (NB: not implying that
         | they should, just that they don't). Turns out people will pay
         | to be able to use a slightly simplified version of something
         | cool, that they would otherwise need to "figure out" a bunch of
         | stuff to get it working.
        
           | tayo42 wrote:
           | Going from cool to usable for general public is a lot of
           | work. And most of it isn't fun or rewarding. I get why open
           | source doesn't do that, and why you would want money to go
           | from solving a problem for your self to solving a problem for
           | others in an easy way.
        
             | solardev wrote:
             | > Going from cool to usable for general public is a lot of
             | work. And most of it isn't fun or rewarding.
             | 
             | As a frontend dev, this is my favorite part of the work! I
             | wish there was an easy way to find open-source projects
             | wanting UI help in particular. Is there?
        
               | all2 wrote:
               | Oooh! Ooh! There's a guy who just posted a tool that has
               | a limited license UI. He said he was going to work on
               | rolling a new one. You should reach out maybe?
               | 
               | This guy! https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38044782
        
         | burkaman wrote:
         | I think it's the same as restaurants "hijacking" cheap
         | ingredients and serving them up behind a paywall. Just because
         | you think you could make a tool yourself doesn't mean it's
         | never worth paying for, even professional chefs will pay for
         | something pre-made and easy when they're hungry.
        
         | kyleyeats wrote:
         | You have to with this tech. If your thing takes off and you
         | don't, you're stuck with a huge bill. Then you get leapfrogged
         | anyway.
        
       | xnx wrote:
       | Here are some instructions for anyone who wants to do this on
       | their own hardware: https://takin.ai/learn/generate-images-with-
       | hidden-text-usin...
       | 
       | Definitely a nice convenience feature to have someone pre-select
       | the settings, but very doable for anyone with tech experience to
       | set up by themselves.
        
       | teaearlgraycold wrote:
       | You really need some kind of free-tier, but I understand you're
       | putting yourself at risk with that. Ideally you could run the
       | model in the browser with WebGPU for trial users so that they
       | could bear the cost.
        
         | all2 wrote:
         | I'd be curious about how big the model is. The loading time
         | could be quite long. I suppose with caching, it won't be a big
         | deal after the first run, though.
        
           | andybak wrote:
           | It's gonna be SD 1.5 and ControlNet, surely?
        
       | broken_clock wrote:
       | You can get something similar for free here:
       | 
       | https://huggingface.co/spaces/AP123/IllusionDiffusion
        
       | uticus wrote:
       | I could see how this would be great for special event materials
       | etc... if the pictures are what I want? There's no way to scroll
       | through and choose, or even filter or change to get closer to
       | something I want. So, no. Not interested in paying for a grab-
       | box/gamble.
       | 
       | If there were a way to fine-tune, then pick 10 or something, it
       | would be a lot more useful. Could even watermark or something to
       | keep freeloaders away, hopefully you get the idea.
        
       | porsager wrote:
       | So the exact same as https://ailogoart.com ?
        
       | toddmorey wrote:
       | Not meant as a criticism, just an observation: The novelty of
       | these shapes hidden in images is already gone for me. It's
       | amazing to think how fast the hype cycles around a clever concept
       | will accelerate with generative AI being so available and easy.
       | 
       | Meanwhile if people still had to do this stuff by hand in
       | Photoshop, you could probably milk the gimmick for at least a
       | couple of years Thomas Kinkade style.
       | 
       | I'm reminded a bit of million dollar homepage and all the fast-
       | follow clones that each earned about 86C/.
        
         | jprete wrote:
         | There's also a lack of actual communication. Yes, an AI image
         | generator can stick a pattern into an otherwise totally
         | different kind of image. But there's no communicative meaning
         | there other than what I just mentioned. There's no cleverness,
         | nothing interesting to discover in the details, no space where
         | the imagination can fill things in because it's all plainly
         | arbitrary, no deeper meaning other than a shape embedded in a
         | pattern fill, however complicated the fill might be.
         | 
         | I went looking at the details of the original spiral medieval
         | town and all I found was a woman's skirt standing on its own
         | with no body. And I know perfectly well the AI isn't trying to
         | say anything clever with that.
        
           | toddmorey wrote:
           | That's true. Even when AI learns to not put torso-less legs,
           | the wonder will be gone.
           | 
           | Prior to AI, you'd stare at an image like this and I believe
           | most of the magic was marveling at the cleverness & craft of
           | the person who painstakingly created the illusion. That you
           | could think, "wow I'd never have the patience, talent, or
           | dedication to make something like that."
        
       | aczerepinski wrote:
       | Price feels fair for saving me time, but I have no use for a
       | fairly low-res image. Do brands really want logo images that are
       | less than 4k resolution and aren't vectorized?
        
         | qingcharles wrote:
         | You have to run it through another AI app to upscale it. That's
         | how most of these AI images are being done these days.
         | 
         | Vector is another matter. I don't think you'd want to try to
         | vectorize the output from this, but again, there are a bunch of
         | AI tools for doing it.
        
           | andybak wrote:
           | How would these even vectorize?
        
       | dvrp wrote:
       | so, like krea ai?
        
       | serial_dev wrote:
       | But can it write CSS so that the site looks acceptable on
       | mobile???
       | 
       | Snarkiness aside, the website looks awful on mobile, half the
       | screen is not used, overflow issues, etc.
        
         | jsf01 wrote:
         | I think most of this would be resolved by just reducing the
         | left and right padding on small screens. If the author is
         | monitoring this thread, please consider making that update!
        
       | Minor49er wrote:
       | Looking at the "Answers to common questions about LogoPicture
       | AI", the first question is "Do you offer refunds?" This makes me
       | think that this is the question that most people are asking.
       | Hopefully that isn't the case because this looks pretty neat
        
       | minimaxir wrote:
       | The original submission is likely using a ControlNet
       | implementation. You don't need the special
       | control_v1p_sd15_qrcode_monster ControlNet that the popular
       | optical illusions technique uses: the common canny anf depth
       | ControlNets works fine.
       | 
       | When ControlNet first became mainstream I generated a fun series
       | of tech company logo charcuterie boards using the Canny
       | ControlNet and SD 1.5:
       | https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/11bp30o/te...
       | 
       | Of course now with SDXL you can create _very_ good ControlNet-
       | constrained images.
        
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