[HN Gopher] Drugmakers Are Set to Pay 23andMe Millions to Access...
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       Drugmakers Are Set to Pay 23andMe Millions to Access Consumer DNA
        
       Author : htrp
       Score  : 34 points
       Date   : 2023-10-30 21:59 UTC (1 hours ago)
        
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       | amacalac wrote:
       | Insert <This is fine> meme here
        
       | ddmma wrote:
       | Billions at least
        
       | daoboy wrote:
       | https://archive.ph/CeLJZ
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       | "Any discoveries GSK makes with the 23andMe data will now be
       | solely owned by the British pharmaceutical giant, while the
       | genetic-testing company will be eligible for royalties on some
       | projects."
        
       | 26fingies wrote:
       | You know what would be fun? If we could see where all of our
       | ancestors were from...
       | 
       | - Police arrest my cousin for getting a paper cut during a home
       | robbery
       | 
       | - Hackers sell my DNA on the internet
       | 
       | - Drugmakers make new and exciting opiates that are especially
       | addictive for me alone
        
         | Obscurity4340 wrote:
         | I wish more people did this. Examples rule
        
         | fred_is_fred wrote:
         | How difficult would it be with 2023 technology to produce DNA
         | trace evidence for someone else given the sequenced information
         | in these systems? Is there enough information there to do that,
         | and if so, what are the technology hurdles?
        
       | karaterobot wrote:
       | https://archive.ph/CeLJZ
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       | After reading the article, it looks to me like giving access to
       | this data is _not_ what 's new, it's that the contractual terms
       | of the existing agreement have changed. That is, it seems like
       | 23AndMe already gives access of some form to pharmaceutical
       | research companies.
       | 
       | Two questions I had:
       | 
       | * I'm vaguely familiar with the challenges of anonymizing omics
       | data, and I'm wondering how they expect to make someone's entire
       | genetic profile sufficiently anonymous or deidentified. All I've
       | seen from them is one of their example reports, and you could
       | take the name off one of those, and it seems like it would still
       | be pretty easy to reidentify the subject just from that high
       | level report, let alone from the raw data.
       | 
       | * When they say these are users who have opted in to data
       | sharing, I wonder what form that actually takes. Is this one of
       | those things where everybody who uses 23AndMe is opting in? Did
       | these 14 million users all actually provide informed, active
       | consent? I assume that to maximize the value of that data,
       | 23AndMe is incentivized to interpret consent as broadly (and
       | vaguely) as possible.
        
         | ghayes wrote:
         | My biggest concern is that my siblings and parents have all
         | signed up. So (more or less) my DNA is in this database, even
         | though I have never interacted with the organization.
        
           | jacquesm wrote:
           | Yes, I wrote about that when this all first started
           | happening. Not that anybody cared... it doesn't take a whole
           | lot to be able to identify you given some samples of your
           | extended family. And as a means of elimination it will be
           | extremely effective.
           | 
           | Gattaca is an amazing movie, it has aged so well I find
           | myself having more and more appreciation for the amount of
           | thought that went into the script.
        
       | cwales95 wrote:
       | This is precisely why I will never use one of these services. The
       | thought of a company being able to _buy_ my DNA is beyond creepy.
        
         | tspike wrote:
         | Sadly, if your relatives are anything like mine, they have
         | probably already made the decision for you.
        
       | jacquesm wrote:
       | Who ever did not see this one coming when 23andMe launched was
       | asleep at the switch. DNA databases are ripe for abuse and this
       | is just another form of abuse. First they get you to _pay_ to
       | give them your samples and then they get paid again to pass your
       | data to other parties without obtaining your specific consent for
       | that transfer.
       | 
       | When 23andMe launched I was absolutely amazed at how HN and less
       | technical audiences ran with it, the abuse potential - and that's
       | before we get into 'hacker lifted your sequences or prints' - was
       | blatantly obvious.
        
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