[HN Gopher] Drugmakers Are Set to Pay 23andMe Millions to Access... ___________________________________________________________________ Drugmakers Are Set to Pay 23andMe Millions to Access Consumer DNA Author : htrp Score : 34 points Date : 2023-10-30 21:59 UTC (1 hours ago) (HTM) web link (www.bloomberg.com) (TXT) w3m dump (www.bloomberg.com) | amacalac wrote: | Insert <This is fine> meme here | ddmma wrote: | Billions at least | daoboy wrote: | https://archive.ph/CeLJZ | | "Any discoveries GSK makes with the 23andMe data will now be | solely owned by the British pharmaceutical giant, while the | genetic-testing company will be eligible for royalties on some | projects." | 26fingies wrote: | You know what would be fun? If we could see where all of our | ancestors were from... | | - Police arrest my cousin for getting a paper cut during a home | robbery | | - Hackers sell my DNA on the internet | | - Drugmakers make new and exciting opiates that are especially | addictive for me alone | Obscurity4340 wrote: | I wish more people did this. Examples rule | fred_is_fred wrote: | How difficult would it be with 2023 technology to produce DNA | trace evidence for someone else given the sequenced information | in these systems? Is there enough information there to do that, | and if so, what are the technology hurdles? | karaterobot wrote: | https://archive.ph/CeLJZ | | After reading the article, it looks to me like giving access to | this data is _not_ what 's new, it's that the contractual terms | of the existing agreement have changed. That is, it seems like | 23AndMe already gives access of some form to pharmaceutical | research companies. | | Two questions I had: | | * I'm vaguely familiar with the challenges of anonymizing omics | data, and I'm wondering how they expect to make someone's entire | genetic profile sufficiently anonymous or deidentified. All I've | seen from them is one of their example reports, and you could | take the name off one of those, and it seems like it would still | be pretty easy to reidentify the subject just from that high | level report, let alone from the raw data. | | * When they say these are users who have opted in to data | sharing, I wonder what form that actually takes. Is this one of | those things where everybody who uses 23AndMe is opting in? Did | these 14 million users all actually provide informed, active | consent? I assume that to maximize the value of that data, | 23AndMe is incentivized to interpret consent as broadly (and | vaguely) as possible. | ghayes wrote: | My biggest concern is that my siblings and parents have all | signed up. So (more or less) my DNA is in this database, even | though I have never interacted with the organization. | jacquesm wrote: | Yes, I wrote about that when this all first started | happening. Not that anybody cared... it doesn't take a whole | lot to be able to identify you given some samples of your | extended family. And as a means of elimination it will be | extremely effective. | | Gattaca is an amazing movie, it has aged so well I find | myself having more and more appreciation for the amount of | thought that went into the script. | cwales95 wrote: | This is precisely why I will never use one of these services. The | thought of a company being able to _buy_ my DNA is beyond creepy. | tspike wrote: | Sadly, if your relatives are anything like mine, they have | probably already made the decision for you. | jacquesm wrote: | Who ever did not see this one coming when 23andMe launched was | asleep at the switch. DNA databases are ripe for abuse and this | is just another form of abuse. First they get you to _pay_ to | give them your samples and then they get paid again to pass your | data to other parties without obtaining your specific consent for | that transfer. | | When 23andMe launched I was absolutely amazed at how HN and less | technical audiences ran with it, the abuse potential - and that's | before we get into 'hacker lifted your sequences or prints' - was | blatantly obvious. ___________________________________________________________________ (page generated 2023-10-30 23:00 UTC)