[HN Gopher] Zimbra 0-day used to steal email data from governmen...
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       Zimbra 0-day used to steal email data from government organizations
        
       Author : hasheddan
       Score  : 88 points
       Date   : 2023-11-16 16:04 UTC (6 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (blog.google)
 (TXT) w3m dump (blog.google)
        
       | kstrauser wrote:
       | Oh, XSS. It's the gift that keeps giving.
        
         | j45 wrote:
         | At some point I'm hoping AI can help with hardening by coming
         | up with potentially novel security holes.
        
           | kstrauser wrote:
           | Right? Let's see some Hex Color Injection or Retina Inversion
           | or Bytecode Reversal attacks. I want to see a flatline riding
           | a black chrome shark into my browser. Enough of this "XSS"
           | this and "Server-Side Request Forgery" that stuff.
        
           | Obscurity4340 wrote:
           | Is there very much a usecase for using AI to Xray a site and
           | find all this bullshit in an automated fashion? The opposite
           | seems so unreliable and unfashionable...
        
       | dang wrote:
       | [stub for offtopicness]
        
         | mmoya wrote:
         | Post deleted, archive.org has it
         | https://web.archive.org/web/20231116160518/https://blog.goog...
        
           | aa_is_op wrote:
           | Nah. It's live. Their CDN had a hiccup.
        
         | kyrra wrote:
         | Odd, looks like it was deleted? It's on archive.org though.
         | 
         | https://web.archive.org/web/20231116160518/https://blog.goog...
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         | EDIT: updated URL here: https://blog.google/threat-analysis-
         | group/zimbra-0-day-used-...
        
         | blakesterz wrote:
         | I think the URL just changed to
         | 
         | https://blog.google/threat-analysis-group/zimbra-0-day-used-...
        
           | dang wrote:
           | Fixed now. Submitted URL was https://blog.google/threat-
           | analysis-group/zimbra-0-day-used-.... Thanks!
        
       | dspillett wrote:
       | This is a timely reminder to anyone still using Zimbra 8.x.x that
       | is reaches EOL at the end of next month. There is no official
       | open release of later versions despite much being covered by open
       | source licenses. If you have not already moved off Zimbra you
       | need to, ASAP, do one of the following:
       | 
       | 1. Pay for Zimbra and upgrade that way.
       | 
       | 2. Try compile up a later version yourself...
       | 
       | 3. Migrate to one of the forks that sprang up (most of them are
       | dead though, Zextras/Carbonio is still going but last time I
       | looked the system requirements were a bit daft for what little
       | functionality I actually need)
       | 
       | 4. Migrate to something else entirely.
        
         | jsilence wrote:
         | Not sure what you are talking about. To me it looks like you
         | can just DL and install 9.0 or 10.0 community release. Am I
         | missing something?
         | 
         | https://www.zimbra.com/product/download/zimbra-collaboration...
        
           | slipheen wrote:
           | Looking at the links on that page, the only links for 9.0 or
           | 10.0 look to be for the network edition (non oss)
           | 
           | I'm not familiar with the situation, but reading through
           | https://blog.zimbra.com/2020/05/is-zimbra-open-source-yes-
           | fa... suggests that they do still provide source for at least
           | some portions of 9.x, but they no longer provide binaries or
           | packages.
           | 
           | It looks like some components may be missing ("Modern UI"),
           | but I don't know if it's usable without them.
        
         | doublerabbit wrote:
         | I'm one of those who needs to upgrade and the pre sales part is
         | hell.
         | 
         | Either your not big enough to get any priority. They never
         | reply. Or the costs are just too stupid for a personal account
         | with 5-10 mailboxes.
         | 
         | I host on-prem too, via colocation which then increases the
         | cost ten-fold. It's as these companies don't want customers.
         | 
         | Liked the look to IceWarp suite and yet they've been non-
         | existence in sales that I end up expecting though out.
        
       | willk wrote:
       | It feels like they waited a long time to post an advisory for an
       | exploit that was being actively used by threat actors, more than
       | a week after they pushed a fix to their repositories. Why not
       | give customers a heads up prior? At least give your users a
       | fighting chance.
        
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