[HN Gopher] The Cassette-Tape Revolution
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       The Cassette-Tape Revolution
        
       Author : pseudolus
       Score  : 32 points
       Date   : 2023-11-19 19:44 UTC (3 hours ago)
        
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 (TXT) w3m dump (www.newyorker.com)
        
       | 082349872349872 wrote:
       | The NYT won't let me see TFA, so I hope it mentions that
       | cassettes, via samizdat, also shook things up on the other side
       | of the Iron Curtain.
        
         | Full_Clark wrote:
         | FWIW this publication is The New Yorker, not the New York
         | Times, and the linked article didn't have any sort of paywall
         | or preview feature when I clicked through.
         | 
         | I don't think trying again will bring you any joy, though,
         | since none of the words samizdat, iron, curtain, soviet, nor
         | USSR appear in the text.
        
           | 082349872349872 wrote:
           | Thanks, my bad. I'm still paywalled, so I went to
           | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cassette_tape#Cassette_culture
           | where TIL tapes also played a role in the 1979 Iranian
           | Revolution.
        
             | dylan604 wrote:
             | The fax machine also played a role in bringing down the
             | Iron Curtain
        
       | jay_kyburz wrote:
       | I was thinking the other week, I wouldn't mind having a nice
       | physical copy of a lot of my data. There was something "human"
       | about flipping through my CD collection looking for something to
       | put on. Or browsing the bookshelf, looking for a book to read.
       | 
       | I think it needs to be bigger than Micro SD, more surface area
       | for art than a thumb drive, but a CD is too big I think.
       | 
       | A game boy cartridge would be a good size I think, or perhaps a
       | credit card.
       | 
       | I would love a box of credit card size memory sticks. I could
       | could flip through them, share one with a friend, carry them
       | around. More physical that just moving files on and off my phone.
       | 
       | One card for each band perhaps, or each author. All of Tools
       | albums, or the collected works for G.R.R. Martin.
       | 
       | It would be nice if you could just place the card on you phone
       | and the phone just reads the data and plays the music. Or rest it
       | on your laptop and browse it like it was a drive.
       | 
       | It would never take off, but nice to dream about.
        
         | dools wrote:
         | There is still a pretty thriving mini disc community
        
         | dfex wrote:
         | I think the Minidisc[1] is what you're after - 68mmx72mm (2.7in
         | x 2.8in), 80 minutes of audio/~300MB of data.
         | 
         | I'm always confused by my desire for slightly inconvenient
         | physical formats like this to make a comeback - I suspect it's
         | some combination of 90s nostalgia (I'm mid-40s) and a
         | psychological reaction to the enshitification of culture now
         | being an endless subscription service.
         | 
         | [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MiniDisc
        
           | mackrevinack wrote:
           | the good thing about miniDisc is that its relatively easy to
           | get the tracks back off it again. like if you wanted to share
           | a disc with a friend, they could copy the tracks onto their
           | computer using webminidisc or some other software. all the
           | software is a bit old and janky but it's quicker than having
           | to copy a tape!
        
           | jay_kyburz wrote:
           | It's the right size for sure, but you can buy 32GB of Micro
           | SD for about $10. And and an SD card reader is a lot easier
           | to find. The are just a little too small. :)
           | 
           | It's not just nostalgia. I think when you start looking for
           | them there are a lot of good reasons to start doing this.
           | 
           | Physical backups, privacy of not having so much life online,
           | less subscriptions required (dropbox), easier sharing without
           | gate keepers.
           | 
           | SanDisk should make something. A credit card with a few small
           | raised bumps for the connection so you can just rest it on a
           | surface rather than having to plug it in. Then a simple
           | little USB reader that is just a flat surface you can place
           | on your desk.
        
         | dist-epoch wrote:
         | > It would be nice if you could just place the card on you
         | phone and the phone just reads the data and plays the music
         | 
         | With NFC you could embed a unique ID into the card and the
         | phone accesses that data from it's own storage or from your
         | online drive. I know it's cheating, but it's doable today.
        
       | neonate wrote:
       | https://web.archive.org/web/20231119211253/https://www.newyo...
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       | https://archive.ph/ADJAW
        
       | madengr wrote:
       | Watch there now be a cassette renaissance like there was a record
       | renaissance, despite the cassette having horrible audio quality
       | compared to a CD.
        
       | spking wrote:
       | Within seconds of loading the page, a giant toast taking up half
       | the bottom of the screen, and a separate modal overlay with some
       | other message to subscribe pop up and completely obscure the
       | article. And that's with ad blocking.
       | 
       | https://deathtobullshit.com/ more relevant than ever.
        
         | prmoustache wrote:
         | Usage of thi addon is becoming the only way to browse the web
         | correctly: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-
         | US/firefox/addon/activate-read...
        
       | dist-epoch wrote:
       | Rose colored glasses history and all that, but goddam, were
       | cassettes awful, even when brand new.
        
       | kevin_thibedeau wrote:
       | > the cassette "puts a smudgy fingerprint on everything it
       | touches," adding noise and hiss, the sound quality degrading with
       | each playback.
       | 
       | This applies equally to phonograph recordings. The only real
       | virtue of LP vinyl is that it largely prohibits loudness war
       | nonsense.
        
         | lancesells wrote:
         | 99% of the time I listen to music digitally but I buy LPs for
         | the art and liner notes. My connection with the music I listen
         | to is bigger when I see more of the art and design and read
         | what went into making the album.
        
         | dylan604 wrote:
         | >The only real virtue of LP vinyl is
         | 
         | I disagree. As a former DJ that played vinyl, it truly was a
         | tactile experience. The loss of that with the switch to CDs and
         | now digital media is truly something that's not appreciated.
        
       | forinti wrote:
       | Cassettes were perfect for 8 bit micros. They were a bit slow,
       | but cheap and somewhat reliable.
       | 
       | Ten year old me bought a metre of stereo cable and two male audio
       | jacks so I could copy tapes using my dad's 3-in-1 and my tape
       | player.
       | 
       | You could get 7-minutes-a-side tapes that allowed one game on
       | each side.
        
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