[HN Gopher] First Is the Worst: Nintendo's Color TV Game 6 and 15
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       First Is the Worst: Nintendo's Color TV Game 6 and 15
        
       Author : zdw
       Score  : 116 points
       Date   : 2023-11-26 15:35 UTC (7 hours ago)
        
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       | gjsman-1000 wrote:
       | Nintendo: The world's most ambitious playing card company; that
       | actually still makes playing cards.
       | 
       | https://www.amazon.com/Nintendo-Mario-playing-cards-red/dp/B...
        
         | mock-possum wrote:
         | > Includes instruction manual (English language not
         | guaranteed).
         | 
         | Sorry but how is that possible - do they know what they're
         | selling, or not?
        
           | vasvae3 wrote:
           | I suppose the cards themselves are the same regardless of the
           | region, but the language of the instruction manual depends on
           | the region, and they are commingling decks from all regions?
        
       | rax0m wrote:
       | Toggle dark mode at the bottom of the page
        
         | reassembled wrote:
         | Would be nice to have it at the top. :/
        
       | mananaysiempre wrote:
       | Even the URL is perfect :)
        
         | quickthrower2 wrote:
         | firstname.{one of the gazillion new tlds} is a good one to get,
         | and usually gettable, although some of them charge like $1000/y
         | because it is a nice domain.
        
           | mananaysiempre wrote:
           | Not what I meant--look at the path :)
        
             | quickthrower2 wrote:
             | You are either admiring the .html extension or the
             | monthless date?
        
       | kevin_thibedeau wrote:
       | > A potentiometer has a maximum and minimum value. They can't
       | spin indefinitely by the very nature of how they're constructed,
       | and each position of the pot maps to a point on screen.
       | 
       | Some can spin freely if they have their stops removed. Tektronix
       | did this for their late 70's vintage scopes like the 2465. The
       | discontinuity from the wiper crossing the gap was mostly hidden
       | with firmware.
        
       | xacky wrote:
       | Nintendo tends to have a "good-bad" cycle similar to Windows. The
       | good phases help save the whole gaming industry.
        
         | weberer wrote:
         | The "bad" cycle is only bad sales-wise. The Gamecube and Wii U
         | were great systems.
        
           | ajmurmann wrote:
           | And we don't talk about the VirtualBoy
        
             | gjsman-1000 wrote:
             | We talk about wanting companies to do more experimental
             | things, then simultaneously diss the failed attempts.
             | 
             | The VirtualBoy was an insane idea that was a whole human
             | generation ahead of its time. That's rare and credit to
             | Nintendo for trying.
        
               | Keyframe wrote:
               | My mind exploded when I found out there was no 'screen'
               | in it at all. Very clever for the time.
        
               | Dwedit wrote:
               | So let's play alternate history. Say that Blue LEDs had
               | been developed at this time, and Nintendo could have used
               | Red, Green, and Blue LEDs to make a full color screen
               | rather than just a red screen.
               | 
               | And all the warnings about headaches and such were all
               | overblown things to try to make legal compliance happy,
               | but they had the effect of scaring away customers who did
               | not understand that they were for legal compliance rather
               | than actual warnings.
               | 
               | So how would an RGB Virtual Boy have turned out? Imagine
               | a cross between the Game Boy Color and the 3DS.
        
         | tavavex wrote:
         | Ehh, these "good/bad" charts often have to follow a specific
         | narrative to make sense, like those Windows ones that pick only
         | certain versions among the NT and non-NT systems for it to
         | follow the pattern. Same for Nintendo - what was the "bad"
         | between NES and SNES?
        
       | sillywalk wrote:
       | I'm reminded of the Degenatron.
       | 
       | https://gta.fandom.com/wiki/Degenatron
        
         | jhbadger wrote:
         | That was more a parody of the Atari 2600 (1977). While it had
         | very blocky graphics, the sorts of games it could play (crude
         | versions of arcade games of the time) seems more like what this
         | is parodying rather than Pong-like games.
        
       | nyanpasu64 wrote:
       | > Consoles with built-in RF cables, like the Color TV Game 6,
       | often have scars like this, and it seems particularly common on
       | the Nintendo consoles. This is because the RF cable contains
       | plasticizers to make it more flexible; the problem is, people
       | often wrap cables around the console for convenient storage. This
       | is fine for the short term, but if they've been in the closet for
       | almost fifty years, well, you get burns like this or even worse.
       | Be careful how you store these!
       | 
       | Yum endocrine disruptors... I find that when I apply office or
       | duct tape to plastic erasers or PVC cable sleeves, the plastic
       | and glue will "diffuse" into each other, producing a disgusting
       | goop that sticks to fingers and is a pain to clean off. I also
       | know that rubber feet and "soft touch" surfaces can turn into
       | goop over time, but I don't know what process is happening there.
       | 
       | I hear that the plasticizers leaching out of plastic into air (or
       | decomposing) is why old electronics' plastic cases and parts
       | become weak and brittle over decades.
        
         | akx wrote:
         | Yegh, old (occasionally not even 5 years old) soft-touch
         | plastic turning sticky goopy.
         | 
         | I cleaned that up off an old handheld vacuum with rough salt
         | and water, of course turning it non-soft-touch in the process,
         | but better than sticky goopy...
        
         | hakfoo wrote:
         | Another place you see this is turntables. People boxed it up
         | and tossed the cord on top, then piled a bunch of stuff on it
         | for 25 years, and there are the terrible dents. Since the
         | dustcover is usually plastic, it takes the damage.
         | 
         | This was a huge eye-opener moment for me; I figured it was some
         | other common damage mechanism-- cigarette burns or leaving
         | something hot on top of the unit.
        
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