[HN Gopher] Portuguese Orange, Persian Portugal ___________________________________________________________________ Portuguese Orange, Persian Portugal Author : rpastuszak Score : 49 points Date : 2023-11-28 12:07 UTC (10 hours ago) (HTM) web link (untested.sonnet.io) (TXT) w3m dump (untested.sonnet.io) | mock-possum wrote: | This title is too clever for its own good - the article itself is | actually a neat little peek at the semantics of the name for the | fruit we call "orange." | mig39 wrote: | "Portugal" is what you call oranges in some Arabic dialects as | well. I have a Moroccan friend who refers to me as an Orange, | because I'm Portuguese :-) | selimthegrim wrote: | What does he call the band? | MichaelRo wrote: | Romanian language calls oranges "portocale" so definitely Persian | origin by route of the Ottoman Empire. In Turkish it's | "portakallar". | | Speaking of weird names, we don't call oranges orange but we do | call tomatoes "reds" (rosii). | | And we call corn "pigeon" (porumb - from "palumbus" which is | Latin for pigeon). | | To finish, the Romanian word for "chainsaw" comes from Russian | but neither Romanians know what it means in Russian nor do | Russians suspect what it got to mean in Romanian. So "chainsaw" | in Romanian - drujba - means "friendship" - Druzhba - in Russian. | Therefore when someone comes with the friendship at you, you | better run, we'd have "The Texas friendship massacre" :) | pinkmuffinere wrote: | nit; portakallar is the plural of portakal, meaning orange (the | fruit) | cristianpascu wrote: | Seems there's a russian brand of chainsaws called Druzhba, | that's where we got it. | blululu wrote: | I like calling tomatoes reds in Romanian, but Rosa/Red is | definitely a few thousand years old. In English the color | orange is actually named for the fruit which does not grow well | in England and only arrived a few hundred years ago. | dbuxton wrote: | https://mapsontheweb.zoom-maps.com/post/110890462230/the-wor... | to see how various countries come out | bafe wrote: | Funny enough it seems in Persian there's no clear distinction | between lime and lemon. My wife calls both "limoo". She does | however claim there's a particular cultivars "limoo Shirin" that | is supposedly very sweet (and hard to find outside of Iran) | amiraliakbari wrote: | Lime is called "limoo Shirazi", meaning Lemon of Shiraz (a | city). But you are right that both are usually just called | limoo. | | Limoo Shirin is a rather common fruit here, I didn't expect | that it is not easily found outside Iran. Although it doesn't | taste that good and is usually mixed with orange juice or | consumed for health benefits (it's considered good for | preventing/treating cold). | diego_moita wrote: | In Portuguese speaking Brazil there isn't also a clear | distinction. | | Limes are far more common than lemons there (that's why | caipirinha is made with them). | | But there are three kinds of lemons in Brazil: limes are | sometimes called "Tahiti lemon" normal lemons are called | "Sicilian lemon" and a small, very bitter lemon with an orange | peel, sometimes called "Galician lemon". | ppereira wrote: | Artificial lemon flavours that you find in candy and cough | syrup taste much more like "sweet lemon" than the typical lemon | found in North America. It is sweet when eaten within the first | minute or so and bland afterwards. It does not taste acidic at | all. | augusto-moura wrote: | Coincidentally, or maybe not, I honestly don't know. Brazilian | Portuguese also has a single name for lime and lemon, we call | both "limao" (pronounced with a nasalized end). | | The yellow sweet lemon we call it Sicilian lemon, another fruit | name with origin from a country name | Raicuparta wrote: | My favorite example of this is turkey, the bird, being named | after Turkey, India, or Peru, depending on the language being | spoken. | lappet wrote: | Interestingly enough, Orange is called "oranju" in Tamil, a | Dravidian language. | someotherperson wrote: | Modern Tamil has loanwords from all sorts of languages, | wouldn't be surprised if orange also fell into that list. | lappet wrote: | Right, but the root of "orange" is apparently Proto- | Dravidian, as mentioned in the article | diego_moita wrote: | In case anyone cares, the country's name comes from "Portus | Cale", the Roman name of a location near modern day Oporto and | Vila Nova de Gaia cities. | | Portus means port in Latin. It is the origin for the name of the | city of Oporto, also. | | Cala is the name of a Celtic deity, also known as Cailleach in | Irish or Beira in Scotland. It is also the origin for the name of | the region known as Galicia and the Gaia in Vila Nova de Gaia. ___________________________________________________________________ (page generated 2023-11-28 23:00 UTC)