[HN Gopher] Three gaming-focused Linux operating systems beat Wi...
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       Three gaming-focused Linux operating systems beat Windows 11 in
       gaming benchmark
        
       Author : Ardms78
       Score  : 48 points
       Date   : 2023-12-03 21:11 UTC (1 hours ago)
        
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 (TXT) w3m dump (www.tomshardware.com)
        
       | FirmwareBurner wrote:
       | 1. Why not link the original article[1] with the benchmarks and
       | use your favorite way to translate?
       | 
       | 2. Curious why they didn't use OG Ubuntu in the benchmarks. Yes
       | Popos(I still don't agree on that name) is just another Ubuntu,
       | but I would have proffered the OG snice that's the most popular
       | worldwide and I don't know what Popos does to make it more
       | "gaming focused" than vanilla Ubuntu.
       | 
       | For another popular Ubuntu alternative they could have also went
       | with Linux Mint. AFAIK both are still default on X11 while latest
       | Ubuntu defaults to Wayland so that could have made a difference.
       | 
       | [1] https://www.computerbase.de/2023-12/welche-linux-
       | distributio...
        
         | smoldesu wrote:
         | > I don't know what Popos does to make it more "gaming focused"
         | than vanilla Ubuntu.
         | 
         | They have a few changes, chief among them being the PopOS
         | scheduler which I find to be quite effective:
         | https://github.com/pop-os/system76-scheduler
         | 
         | The desktop itself is a weird custom-baked x11/GNOME
         | customization you won't really get on Ubuntu. Not many
         | distributions can claim the title of being truly "unique", but
         | PopOS _does_ deserve the title in my opinion. Even still it
         | wouldn 't be my choice for gaming, but I'll defend it's
         | identity as something more than another GNOME/Debian spin.
        
           | FirmwareBurner wrote:
           | _> Not many distributions can claim the title of being truly
           | "unique"_
           | 
           | Sir, I think you've just insulted like dozens of distros out
           | there.
           | 
           | IMHO there are a lot of more "truly unique" distros out there
           | than just spins of Ubuntu with a different DE and scheduler:
           | Nobara(from the benchmark), Q4OS, Antix, Mabox, Linux Lite,
           | Gecko Linux, Spiral Linux, in no particular order, not that
           | they're better than Popos, but they're definitely more
           | unique.
        
             | smoldesu wrote:
             | Probably so. Relative to PopOS, not many of them are quite
             | as pre-customized (not that it's an inherently good or bad
             | thing).
        
               | FirmwareBurner wrote:
               | Depends. Personally I don't consider Popos's DE to be a
               | feature but more of a bug. I think the two competing
               | giants, KDE and Gnome, are more solid and see more dev
               | time and effort put into them, and will do just fine to
               | satisfy all users, preferences and use cases, I don't see
               | the need for the Nth+1 DE that fixes problems Gnome & KDE
               | don't have. But that's just my opinion.
        
         | jwells89 wrote:
         | I think the thing that makes popOS relevant to gaming is how
         | system76 offers a variant with proprietary Nvidia drivers baked
         | in and properly configured to not break with updates.
        
           | FirmwareBurner wrote:
           | That's a good point.
        
           | brnt wrote:
           | That's precisely what Ubuntu (and Debian) offer with the
           | nvidia driver from their repos, isn't it?
        
       | ianai wrote:
       | Pop_OS! Arch, and Nobara
        
         | kiwijamo wrote:
         | I find it interesting that Arch is considered a gaming-focus
         | Linux distro. Is that really the case? From my experience, I've
         | see Arch as a general-purpose bleeding-edge distro.
        
           | Hamuko wrote:
           | Steam Deck runs Arch.
        
             | charcircuit wrote:
             | No, it runs SteamOS. Else Pop_OS! is Ubuntu and Nobara is
             | Fedora.
        
               | calamari4065 wrote:
               | >Pop_OS! is Ubuntu and Nobara is Fedora.
               | 
               | Correct.
        
           | calamari4065 wrote:
           | Both of my main computers are over a decade old. 3rd gen i5,
           | and my laptop runs an Nvidia NVS5400m. Absolutely prehistoric
           | hardware.
           | 
           | Arch is the only distro I've tried that just works out of the
           | box. It's the only distro where Optimus/Prime/Bumblebee
           | actually works and doesn't just run the GPU at full bore all
           | the time.
           | 
           | All of my games work as well as you could hope with this
           | hardware, with no configuration or tinkering up front.
           | 
           | Arch has been the absolute most stable and fast OS I have
           | ever used, bar none. My current installation is the longest
           | I've ever gone without reinstalling the OS, including
           | windows. It's definitely not the most ergonomic OS, but it
           | just works, and it works every time.
           | 
           | Specifically, I use the Garuda flavor. It's advertised as
           | being specifically for games, but I don't know what's special
           | about it other than the garish "gamer" RGB default desktop
           | theme. I'm gonna try Cinnamon next.
        
       | charcircuit wrote:
       | >had a substantially larger 17 fps gap
       | 
       | A gap of FPS has no meaning. FPS have to be compared with
       | percentage difference. If you want to measure a gap in absolute
       | terms you need to convert the measurements to milliseconds per
       | frame.
        
         | qayxc wrote:
         | The original source features a frametime-based rating as well.
         | Surprise, surprise, Windows 11 and Arch are both identical in
         | terms of performance, while Pop!OS and Nobara are about 9%
         | behind.
        
       | 0xDEADFED5 wrote:
       | they really doubled down on that Vavle typo, haha
        
         | silisili wrote:
         | Six times they misspelled Valve, once even in the subtitle.
         | Once I could see as poor editing, but this seems egregious.
        
           | FirmwareBurner wrote:
           | Or the editor mistakenly added "Vavel" to their
           | autocorrect/spell-checker as the correct spelling, and hit
           | 'Publish' without proof reading thoroughly.
        
           | SV_BubbleTime wrote:
           | "Add to dictionary" shouldn't be taken lightly.
        
       | jzb wrote:
       | "Arch is the most 'Linux-like' of the three"
       | 
       | Say what? Not sure how the other two are any less "Linux-like"
       | than Arch. They're all Linux, which is about as Linux-like as it
       | gets.
        
       | zamalek wrote:
       | This should get even better with the new Wayland WINE stuff
       | (freshly stable apparently, I haven't tried it yet).
        
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