[HN Gopher] FISA "Reform" Bill Would Greatly Expand the Entities... ___________________________________________________________________ FISA "Reform" Bill Would Greatly Expand the Entities Forced to Surveil Users Author : jacooper Score : 59 points Date : 2023-12-11 21:10 UTC (1 hours ago) (HTM) web link (www.zwillgen.com) (TXT) w3m dump (www.zwillgen.com) | JumpCrisscross wrote: | There are two 702 bills going to the floor for a vote. One, which | adds a warrant requirement, and another that does not. To which | does this language attach? | imglorp wrote: | EFF has details. Donate. | | https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2023/12/section-702-needs-refo... | yieldcrv wrote: | Does anyone know the forums where people create bills for | laws like the one discuss and think they're doing good? | | I don't want like paranoia based forums, I want the one where | intelligent people are synthesizing laws with the correct | lingo, laws that create power for the state and pass it to | their favorite senators | | I would like to see how they think about things | | I don't really buy the perpetual "us vs them" mentality I'm | presented with, and maybe there is a more holistic approach | to collaborating with their sentiment if there was more | communication | theonlybutlet wrote: | Congressional committees and hearings? Alternatively lobby | groups. | CrzyLngPwd wrote: | Coffee meets keyboard moment. | wolverine876 wrote: | _"any other communication service provider who has access to wire | or electronic communications either as such communications are | transmitted or as such communications are stored"_ | | How is "access" defined? Do E2EE messenging services have | "access" (I mean legally, not technically or philosophically)? | Possibly that particular phrase (maybe not others) is written to | exclude them. | sroussey wrote: | No mention how they have foreign governments spy on our citizens, | then trade data, so everyone has data on everyone. Everyone being | five eyes. | CrzyLngPwd wrote: | Scaling...every business must share your data and the data it has | about you with the government. | pard68 wrote: | The "blinking red lights" narrative started by the FBI director | and parroted by Senator Graham were scare tactics to influenced | the passing of this bill. ___________________________________________________________________ (page generated 2023-12-11 23:00 UTC)