[HN Gopher] Screenwriters' Lecture: Charlie Kaufman (2011)
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       Screenwriters' Lecture: Charlie Kaufman (2011)
        
       Author : s-video
       Score  : 75 points
       Date   : 2023-12-12 06:03 UTC (1 days ago)
        
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       | wanderingstan wrote:
       | The video/audio of this talk is also quite good:
       | https://youtu.be/eRfXcWT_oFs?si=clFM0bNLTO7ll7bK
        
       | empath-nirvana wrote:
       | > In many cases a major obstacle is your deeply seated belief
       | that you are not interesting. And since convincing yourself that
       | you are interesting is probably not going to happen, take it off
       | the table. Think, 'Perhaps I'm not interesting but I am the only
       | thing I have to offer, and I want to offer something. And by
       | offering myself in a true way I am doing a great service to the
       | world, because it is rare and it will help.'
        
       | slap_shot wrote:
       | I'm a huge fan of Kaufman's work but only recently saw
       | Synecdoche, New York, which immediately became my favorite movie,
       | ever. That led me down a rabbit hole of listening to basically
       | every recorded interview he's ever given. He's absolutely
       | brilliant, sincerely humble, probably depressed, and just an
       | absolute joy to listen to. I have a simple quote from him on my
       | computer that I look at from time to time:
       | 
       | I try to do what I can to put something in the world that is not
       | garbage.
        
         | empath-nirvana wrote:
         | Synecdoche, New York is an awe-inspiring work, but it's
         | incredibly hard to watch and left me ruined, mentally, for days
         | afterwards. It's obvious why it's not a popular movie -- he
         | talks about wounds in this speech, and that movie is basically
         | an open psychic sore. It takes a tremendous amount of courage
         | to make a movie that's so relentlessly grim and honest.
        
           | slap_shot wrote:
           | I also found found it incredibly hard to watch, and was also
           | ruined me for days if not weeks. In fact, I think a certain
           | part of me has been permanently changed.
           | 
           | And that is exactly why it is now my favorite movie. A lot of
           | movies have moved me, but this thing did something I didn't
           | even know movies could do.
        
             | detourdog wrote:
             | I was going to watch it based on the first review in this
             | thread. I think I will have to wait to watch it based on
             | the 2 ruined people.
             | 
             | I don't currently have time for that. thank you for the
             | warning.
        
           | tutuca wrote:
           | It leaves such a lasting impression. I find myself
           | remembering some pieces on many ocassions. With my kids, my
           | projects, some aspect of self absorbedness on my own goals.
        
         | subdane wrote:
         | I took a first date to Synecdoche, New York and we didn't have
         | a second (good film though).
        
         | reqo wrote:
         | If you like that movie, then I highly recommend checking out
         | The Rehearsal (2022). Basically a show version of the movie!
        
           | slap_shot wrote:
           | The Rehearsal (and Finding Frances) is with Synecdoche, New
           | York in the bucket of "I didn't know art could do that". I
           | was just in complete awe of what he did with with both of
           | those.
        
       | prhn wrote:
       | Adaptation is one of the gems of Postmodern cinema. I really like
       | what that film did to my brain the first time I watched it. It's
       | hilarious.
       | 
       | It's a keen insight into the process and emotional rollercoaster
       | of creative work.
       | 
       | The layered hilarity to it all is that it's based on the real
       | experience of Kaufman trying to adapt The Orchid Thief.
        
         | jmkd wrote:
         | Adaptation is the film I didn't know I wanted to write. It's
         | perfect.
        
       | jmcphers wrote:
       | If you have Netflix, check out one of Kaufman's more recent
       | films, "I'm Thinking of Ending Things". It's an (increasingly
       | loose) adaptation of Ian Reid's book of the same name. The book
       | is deliberately disorienting and unsettling which makes Kaufman's
       | style really shine.
       | 
       | https://www.netflix.com/title/80211559
        
         | munificent wrote:
         | I loved "I'm Thinking of Ending Things" so much. Kaufman's work
         | scratches a deep itch that nothing else can really reach.
        
         | zoogeny wrote:
         | I'm a huge fan of Kaufman, I think I've seen almost everything
         | he's done. In my opinion, "I'm Thinking of Ending Things" is
         | not his best work. But I have to admit, I think of the themes
         | in this movie more than almost any other film of his.
         | 
         | I read a few interpretations of the film _before_ I watched it
         | and I would actually recommend people to do the same. I think
         | it is worth spoiling the premise behind the movie to understand
         | what is going on. The film is purposefully obtuse which is off-
         | putting to some. In fact, the  "twist" of it wouldn't be
         | obvious to most people who watch it. But to appreciate the
         | depth of the story you have to get passed the surreality of the
         | presentation.
         | 
         | Like "Synecdoche, New York", what remains once you strip away
         | the fantasy is pretty bleak in an existential angst kind of
         | way. But that is pretty much what you get with Kaufman: a bleak
         | existential crisis.
        
       | Finnucane wrote:
       | Long ago I was the assistant to the movie tie-in editor at Tor
       | Books. One day we're going through the mail and there's the
       | script for Being John Malkovich. I read it, and I'm like, holy
       | shit, we have to do this. But wait, how are we going to do this?
       | So I show it to the editor, and he says, yeah, this is great, but
       | how are we going to make this a book? I mean, I could think of
       | ways, but no way that Tom would pay for. So I spend the better
       | part of year just blabbing to people about this great script, but
       | no one has any better idea of what do with it. Still
       | disappointed.
        
       | bparsons wrote:
       | If you haven't already, pick up a copy of Kaufman's only novel,
       | Antkind. It is easily the funniest thing I have ever read. The
       | audiobook version is perfectly done. I have never laughed so hard
       | in my life.
        
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