[HN Gopher] My doomed career as a North Korean novelist
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       My doomed career as a North Korean novelist
        
       Author : billybuckwheat
       Score  : 68 points
       Date   : 2023-12-13 18:16 UTC (4 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (www.theguardian.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (www.theguardian.com)
        
       | n4r9 wrote:
       | It's always fascinating to hear about the cultural structures
       | within North Korea. The image in my head is one where 5% are
       | comfortable party officials and 95% are starving labourers. Of
       | course that's not true: there are intellectuals and scientists in
       | the middle, like in any other society.
       | 
       | A related article was posted a few months ago regarding North
       | Korean sci-fi. Also fascinating!
       | 
       | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37291007
        
         | its_ethan wrote:
         | Yea.. just like any other society... lol
        
           | duxup wrote:
           | No it's not.
        
           | some_random wrote:
           | Ok serious question, what is it about North Korea that causes
           | a subset of HN commenters to leap to it's defense? Russia,
           | China, Iran, etc receive a similar treatment sometimes but
           | never to nearly the degree NK does, what's with that?
        
           | kolinko wrote:
           | Nothing like any other society.
           | 
           | I lived through Communist Poland.
           | 
           | Comfortable life for officials meant that they could use
           | stores with stuff from the west (to buy Levi's jeans,
           | Marlboro cigarettes, or perhaps even a walkman - you can
           | google Pewex to read about these stores). Many of them had
           | also homes. Not as in villas, but as in plain homes that you
           | see in american suburbs.
           | 
           | One of the country leaders in 1950s built himself a villa
           | once, but he never got to live in it, because the rest of the
           | leaders make it understandable to him that it will end badly.
           | So he ended in one of the regular homes. (you can google
           | Ochabowka - I've been inside, and again - it's like twice as
           | big as a regular american home, nothing like a villa you
           | would imagine).
           | 
           | You can also google how Gorbachev and other Soviet party
           | leaders were living. It was better than common people but not
           | much.
           | 
           | The main difference in quality of life was that the regular
           | police couldn't just lock you up (secret police could
           | though), and you wouldn't be beaten up by simply showing on a
           | street during work hours, or doing some other crazy stuff
           | like wearing colorful socks or long hair. I mean, no party
           | official would dare to do it anyway, but regular police
           | wouldn't stop them.
           | 
           | So on one hand - yeah, the societal divide was way lower. But
           | it meant nobody was free and everybody was poor - as in no
           | TVs, no meat, and even a toilet paper was a luxury. Nobody I
           | know would want to get back to that.
        
       | edgineer wrote:
       | High demand for stories from North Korea and no way to verify
       | them makes me wary of what a fiction writer has written.
        
         | waffleiron wrote:
         | This author is also living in South Korea which by law bans you
         | to speak positively about North Korea. Not to say NK isn't bad,
         | but you are unable to have an honest and balanced discussion
         | about it in the media while you live in SK.
         | 
         | https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Security_Act_(South...
        
           | the-smug-one wrote:
           | Yeah, but he could also just not have said anything, right?
        
       | Aloha wrote:
       | I wish I could read the rest of the memoir, alas I do not speak
       | Japanese.
       | 
       | I'm unable to determine if the rest of it was published
       | somewhere.
        
         | lmm wrote:
         | I mean, it's published, Tiao benaiWa , you can buy it on Amazon
         | or wherever. But in Japanese.
        
           | BarryMilo wrote:
           | Can ChatGPT translate a whole book now? Without too much
           | inconvenience
        
             | 99094 wrote:
             | I used it to read some webnovels a few months ago. It's
             | much better than other machine translators (like google or
             | deepl) but it's a bit tedious to use because of the
             | character limit.
        
       | Stratoscope wrote:
       | Reading this brought back a vivid memory of listening to Voice of
       | Korea about 20 years ago.
       | 
       | I had a shortwave receiver in my Honda Civic - a Sony
       | AM/FM/shortwave/cassette that was a drop-in replacement for the
       | factory radio. On the way to work at Adobe in San Jose one day, I
       | tuned in North Korea's English-language broadcast beamed to North
       | America.
       | 
       | One news announcement stuck in my mind so vividly that I remember
       | it word for word to this day:
       | 
       | "Scientists are studying the brain of Respected Comrade Kim Jong-
       | il, because the Respected Comrade is capable of feats of mental
       | power beyond the ability of ordinary human beings."
       | 
       | Brainwashed: Growing up in North Korea:
       | 
       | https://medium.com/@penguinpress/tears-of-blood-life-in-nort...
       | 
       | Voice of Korea official site and Wikipedia page:
       | 
       | http://www.vok.rep.kp/index.php/home/main/en
       | 
       | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voice_of_Korea
        
         | basedbros wrote:
         | Hard to disagree. Am curious to see what they found. I imagine
         | most powerful/manipulative peoples brains are shaped
         | differently and excel in ways we mere mortals don't necessarily
         | consider.
        
       | borbtactics wrote:
       | This story reminds me that education is a privilege and I'm
       | probably not enjoying it as much as I should.
        
         | duxup wrote:
         | I was a horrible college student when I was younger. For a
         | variety of reasons. I quit school, got lucky, and fell into a
         | good tech career.
         | 
         | Many many years later after age 40 I was laid off, wanted a new
         | career path / job, I took a few classes and eventually a
         | bootcamp and changed careers. I was really nervous as far as
         | how it would all play out knowing how terrible I was
         | previously.
         | 
         | It was completely different. The idea that I would go into a
         | room each day and someone would drop some knowledge on me was
         | thrilling. A few other older students like me felt the same
         | way. We were always up front if possible, active, it was a JOY
         | to go to class each day.
         | 
         | Meanwhile I was surrounded by younger folks who reminded me of
         | me as far as being perfectly capable, but low enthusiasm,
         | effort, attention and interest level.
         | 
         | Education, and youth is sometimes wasted on the young. I only
         | wish I could have gone back to school more.
         | 
         | I go to the local university now and then. Despite all the
         | challenges, those folks don't seem to know how good they have
         | it, but I can't judge, neither did I.
        
           | mewpmewp2 wrote:
           | Yeah, it's weird how I didn't care about school at all when I
           | was younger, but now I feel like it would be absolutely
           | amazing to be able to learn all of this as it is. I think
           | it's mainly though because I've experienced more of "actual
           | life" and trying to survive on my own so all of that speaks
           | more to me. Otherwise it seems like it's clueless theory I am
           | forced to learn, but now I can relate my own life's
           | experience with it.
        
       | SuperNinKenDo wrote:
       | Damn, I wanted to read more. Felt like the article received a
       | brutal snip from the editor there.
        
         | finnh wrote:
         | you might like "Without You There Is No Us," a memoir by a
         | foreign national hired to work at a boarding school for the
         | children of the NK party elite
        
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