[HN Gopher] Ventoy ___________________________________________________________________ Ventoy Author : matthberg Score : 357 points Date : 2023-12-17 11:23 UTC (1 days ago) (HTM) web link (www.ventoy.net) (TXT) w3m dump (www.ventoy.net) | bcye wrote: | So you can boot from a USB that already has other files on it or | just other isos? | vorticalbox wrote: | You can put other files on it too. | | It is basically a bootloader that lists all the Isos on the | drive and let's you boot them. | | I have a handful of Isos and it's a good send | rocky_raccoon wrote: | I like "good send" -- it's a bit less hyperbolic than | "Godsend". | bcye wrote: | This is absolutely amazing. Having to clear out a usb just to | boot a live image is really annoying (still need to format | the usbs with it at the beginning though) | drewzero1 wrote: | Yes- it formats the USB when you install Ventoy (to add an EFI | partition) but after that you can put other files on it in | addition to the ISOs. It will only show the ISOs in the boot | menu and ignore the other files. | jtriangle wrote: | And those other files can include bios files, drivers, etc | drewzero1 wrote: | If your files include non-bootable ISOs, they will also | show up in the boot menu. I haven't tried selecting one to | see what happens. | 77pt77 wrote: | You can say that only a specific folder has ISOs. | | It's configurable via a simple json file. | drewzero1 wrote: | Good to know! I haven't looked into the configuration at | all, just been using it as-installed since hearing about | it a little over a year ago. (Thanks, Late Night Linux!) | 77pt77 wrote: | https://www.ventoy.net/en/plugin_imagelist.html | | Example config: | | { "image_list": [ | "/ISO/Linux/archlinux-2020.10.01-x86_64.iso", "/ISO/cn_wi | ndows_10_enterprise_ltsc_2019_x64_dvd_9c09ff24.iso", | "/ISO/Win10PE.iso" ] } | | or: | | https://www.ventoy.net/en/plugin_control.html | | And something like: | | { "VTOY_DEFAULT_SEARCH_ROOT": "/ISO" } | girishso wrote: | Is there any option to set a default ISO to boot? Without | having to select a file manually. I keep juggling between | different OSes on raspberry pies and it's a pain to reformat | drive again and again. But sometimes i do want it to boot | headless. | c-hendricks wrote: | See `VTOY_DEFAULT_IMAGE`, which also allows for some | special values: https://www.ventoy.net/en/plugin_control.ht | ml#vtoy_default_i... | HankB99 wrote: | You can also have it leave extra space at the end of the | device. I create a new partition there and format it with ab | EXT4 filesystem. At one time (I think) Windows could not deal | with the extra partition but Linux does just fine. | riskable wrote: | You can put whatever you want on the VENTOY drive: I made one | for a friend a that had Kubuntu and Tails ISOs along with Yuzu | (Nintendo Switch emulator) and a bunch of Switch games. | | I didn't test Tails much (I was just trying to encourage | learning linux through fun... _tools_ ) but I could boot into | Kubuntu and play the included Switch games. It even worked with | a cheap/generic Switch Pro-like controller without any extra | setup required other than to tell Yuzu to use it. | | Essentially it was an instant boot-on-anything Nintendo Switch | emulator thumb drive (it was one of the tinier varieties too). | Tape that drive to the back of a $20 Switch Pro-like controller | and it's a fantastic Christmas gift | walteweiss wrote: | Sounds really cool! Thanks for the idea! | thaumaturgy wrote: | I recently needed to install Linux onto two new systems, and the | process has somehow gotten even more infuriating since I last | purchased hardware about five years ago. Between Secure Boot, | UEFI, the Windows Boot Loader, "self-healing BIOS" (aka, "huh, | you tried to boot something other than Windows, lemme just revert | all those BIOS settings for you..."), and either crippled or | inscrutably complex BIOS, I was dead in the water with the | install process for several hours on each device. | | Ventoy saved my bacon. _One_ of the problems I was encountering | turned out to be that one of the BIOSes wasn 't recognizing the | standard Debian ISO (any of them) as bootable, but it did | recognize Ventoy. The other device ultimately refused to boot | anything other than either Windows or Ubuntu (hard-locking on | kernel load), but Ventoy at least made it easier to trial-and- | error my way to that conclusion. | | I flatly refuse to purchase a mass-market computer ever again. | Everything from this point forward is either going to be custom | built or purchased from a vendor with explicit Linux support. | vbezhenar wrote: | That's surprising. I never experienced that. All I do is format | USB stick with FAT32, copy files from ISO and it just works. | thaumaturgy wrote: | I invite you to give that a shot on either an LG 16Z90R or a | Dell Inspiron 7710. | tripflag wrote: | while I don't have any of those machines readily available, | i am curious if this USB image [1] would work. It's a | lightly customized Alpine which can be written to a | flashdrive using either Rufus, usbimager, or this command: | xz -dkc <asm.usb.xz >/dev/sdi | | the image was built using this repo [2] and this command: | ./build.sh -i dl/alpine-standard-3.19.0-x86_64.iso -p min | -s 0.3 | | [1] https://ocv.me/asm.usb.xz [2] | https://github.com/9001/asm | thaumaturgy wrote: | Would've been happy to try this, but this device has | already been shipped to the recipient. FWIW the consensus | was that Secure Boot on the Inspiron was still | _partially_ active, even after disabling it in BIOS. If | this image is capable of running with Secure Boot | enabled, then it should work. If it requires disabling | Secure Boot, then it probably wouldn 't. | tripflag wrote: | In that case we probably have the answer already :) The | next question then would have been whether secureboot- | signing it yourself and replacing the PK/DB in the BIOS | would have made it work, but it's really unfortunate that | we've gotten to this point. | thaumaturgy wrote: | Yeah. I was genuinely surprised at how hostile the | process has become. These were the most difficult | installs I've ever had by far, and for entirely different | reasons than in the past. Contrary to past installs, once | I finally got the OS on there, everything else worked | better than expected. | Dalewyn wrote: | >the Windows Boot Loader, | | Just FYI, Windows Boot Manager (and also its predecessor NTLDR) | can chainload into any other bootloader including GRUB. | Originally intended to support dualbooting Windows NT with | Windows 9x, it's actually quite handy and reliable. | | >I flatly refuse to purchase a mass-market computer ever again. | | There's your problem. "Big box" store-bought computers have | motherboards that are locked down and devoid of most advanced | features. | csdvrx wrote: | I've seen old tutorial from the Windows 7 era, tried to do | the same with Windows 11 but failed. | | Can you explain how to use Windows bootmgr to chainload a | linux kernel store either in the EFI or the NTFS? | | The goal is to use the same menu that shows different Windows | versions from different drives | Perz1val wrote: | Here we go again: Leave that damn windows bootloader alone. | Create new partition for the new bootloader, set it as default | boot partition. When booting choose "Windows boot mgr" in GRUB | (may need to run osprober), it'll work fine. This way windows | can keep it's bootloader healthy, and you can boot to both | OSes. | thaumaturgy wrote: | Appreciate the advice, but I have no interest in booting | Windows and would rather not keep its boot loader. On the | exceedingly rare occasion that I need Windows for something, | a VM is far more convenient than a reboot. | ipdashc wrote: | Hm, I'm confused- why you do not just wipe the Windows | install entirely then? | thaumaturgy wrote: | I do, but that requires either successfully booting | something else or pulling the drive. Manufacturers are | making it incrementally harder to successfully boot | something else. Pulling the drive is still an option, but | it turned out that I didn't have the right NVME adapter | and one wasn't available locally, and in any case, if you | do that and still can't get it to boot, then you have to | have a backup image of the drive or you're really SOL. If | the device still boots Windows in any condition, I can | still return it to the retailer as a plan Z. | pyrophane wrote: | This is a great tool for those of us who might have a bit of a | distro hopping problem. You no longer need to do the whole song | and dance with `dd` and can just copy a bunch of ISOs to a single | USB drive | Redster wrote: | I recently started getting into Linux, I was able to load up | four or five ISOs and cycle through them so painlessly. Very | fun. | lproven wrote: | Fantastic tool. Works with Linux, Windows, FreeBSD, some forms of | DOS -- most things. | | I wrote about it here: | https://www.theregister.com/2021/12/10/friday_foss_fest/ | | Now there's a PXE network-boot version too. | | https://www.iventoy.com/en/index.html | chem83 wrote: | Knew about http://netboot.xyz, but had no idea iVentoy existed. | Good to know. | gosub100 wrote: | I've never tried ventoy, but if the PXE/netboot features work, | I want to strongly urge anyone thinking of experimenting with | PXE/netboot to _use ventoy_ or any other similar helper instead | of trying to set up PXE /netboot yourself. I can confidently | say that PXE was the single most difficult project/aspect of | computing I've ever worked on in the 20 years of working with | Linux machines as a hobby and a job. 3-4 times I attempted to | mess with it, got it working about 2. Wasted/spent an | absolutely enormous amount of time. | yonatan8070 wrote: | I tried iVnetoy on both Windows and Linux, on Windows I | couldn't get it working (don't know why, maybe a firewall | issue?), but on Linux it worked flawlessly, and the injection | features are also great | tripflag wrote: | iPXE makes the client-side part of it manageable; the only | drawback is having to walk through the open pull-requests on | github for the patches you need to get it working, and | possibly having to fight some buggy uefi drivers (usually | solved with snponly). Also has the advantage of making it | possible to do everything secureboot + over TLS with your own | certificates, rather than classical PXE which is all | plaintext. | | For the serverside, there are several python projects on | github which provide everything you need in one package, for | example pybootd. | jandrese wrote: | PXE is one of those things that used to be dead simple to set | up. Just add an entry to the DHCP record and set up a TFTP | server for the kernel and NFS root drive and you were golden. | | UEFI threw a huge moneywrench in the process, and SystemD | doesn't help. Last time I made it work I had to track down a | mailing list entry where someone discussed an otherwise | undocumented kernel option that needed to be set to make it | work. One of the key glue techs that made it work last time | (rom-o-matic) went out of development and is gone. | gertlex wrote: | Just commenting an adjacent UEFI problem solved: My | workaround at work with some old test robots that I still | use, but don't have UEFI... Put iPXE on a flash drive, and | use that to chain-boot into the uefi-only PXE setup. | (there's still a few that this doesn't work for, but it's a | minority and I'm going to scrap those...) | gosub100 wrote: | Either Dell or Lenovo (can't remember which, I own both | laptops) has some new-generation HTTPS boot, tried it (I | wanted to dual boot FreeBSD/Linux without messing with | UEFI, disabling secure boot, or repartitioning, just | pressing F12 and net-booting), wasted _another_ 2-3 hours | rebooting each time, got absolutely nowhere again. Man, | this stuff is cursed. | StillBored wrote: | That is still basically the process. You need to ensure | that the arch options are being selected properly in your | dhcp file, ex: | | if option arch = 00:07 { filename "uefi/shimx64.efi"; next- | server X.X.X.X; } else ... | | Otherwise, your going to get the wrong arch/filename. | | It is similar to HTTPS, but the arch = 00:10 for x64 and it | needs: | | option vendor-class-identifier "HTTPClient"; | | Then put the URL in the filename field. | | Finally just put the usual bios/pxe stub in the last "else" | | Of course, your distro should provide a PXE capable | grub/kernel/initrd, which you then toss on the TFTP/HTTPS | (or HTTP then you don't have to deal with certs) server in | the path provided. | toast0 wrote: | UEFI seems hard, because there's no standardized way to | boot ISO files, and memdisk from syslinux doesn't work in | UEFI. With memdisk, the OS kernel could (if properly | written) hook into the loaded image, and mount that as | well. | | Without that support, you have to take apart ISO files to | netboot them, and your PXE environment needs to understand | the various kernels and how to boot them, and how to | provide modules / filesystem images. | | It's a big pain. | gertlex wrote: | You are not wrong. | | But I get a good bit of satisfaction of having gleaned a | pretty functional understanding of setting up PXE/netboot | (Ubuntu installs; with a Ubuntu PXE server via DNSMasq + nfs | + tftp). | | I even did some grub menu user input (and ascii art while I | was at it) prompts/trickery to allow choosing the machine | name shortly after boot, before the long slow Ubuntu install. | | The list of things I've failed at (memtest) or not tried | (Windows) is surely long, though. | | Ventoy is fantastic for any lower-volume imaging needs I | have, of course. | timetraveller26 wrote: | This is the best tool I have used for my linux installs, it also | is handy to have some recovery/maintenance ISO's quickly | available. | | It works with BIOS and UEFI and even lets you keep using your usb | for other files. | keb_ wrote: | Gonna echo everyone here and say this is a great tool, but I was | sad to find out that it does not work with the Steam Deck | Recovery image. | pityJuke wrote: | I know Ventoy has been around for a while, but I'm still glad we | have a good FOSS solution for this. Back in the day, I used to | run a proprietary (I think) tool called SARDU for the job, which | worked fine, but wasn't terrific. | popey wrote: | It may have evolved since I last used it. But when I tried, it | was a bit of a "bag of spanners", thrown together shell scripts | which made some incorrect assumptions. Back then it didn't even | make a bootable device. Everyone seems to rave about it now | though, so may be worth another look. | Perz1val wrote: | I had an old version of ventoy and it worked flawlessly for a | long time. Recently it had some problems with booting an | EndeavourOS iso, I updated it and that fixed the issue. | Updating was just downloading fresh installer and clicking a | button. For me it has always been solid, the UX of just copying | over the iso and still being able to store random crap is | perfect. | csdvrx wrote: | Key limitation: can't be installed to run standalone (in a | partition on your nvme boot drive) if you care about partitions | alignment. | | Variants without this limitation were discussed yesterday. | | Usecase: a rescue distribution to start from the UEFI menu | manually, or automatically if your normal boot fails | walteweiss wrote: | Why not dual boot any Linux for that? If you use Windows. Coz | if it run Linux, you're fine, you can just load another kernel | of your is happened to break after the update. | csdvrx wrote: | The goal is to have full ISOs, for Ubuntu, Windows 11 etc | with the minimal number of partitions and files, for easy | maintenance and imaging to other computers | | A few ISO + a UEFI entry to select them is much simpler: the | ISO file will never change. It can not be rended unbootable | by mistake | | I tried to explain that yesterday in a reply to | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38668260 and on | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38668809 | leeoniya wrote: | the persistence feature is cool: | https://www.ventoy.net/en/plugin_persistence.html | | especially if you want to customize or keep your bootable | recovery disk usb updated without rolling your own ISOs. | 77pt77 wrote: | Unfortunately that works by creating a FS on a loop image file, | you can't use the FS in the actual USB stick. | | It's still great, but if you run into space issues you'll have | to extend the loop file. | phyzome wrote: | Fantastic tool. | | Having a single thumb drive with multiple ISOs on it means you | don't have to keep juggling thumb drives ("now _where_ did I put | my Debian 12 XFCE installer ") or overwriting them over and over | ("oh no, this has the 64-bit ISO, but now I need the 32-bit | installer"). | jtriangle wrote: | I have an external nvme with many iso's running ventoy and it's | become an absolute staple. I even engraved 'ventoy' on it with | a hand engraver so there's never any doubt. | | Useful for more than installs too, I have live distros with | things like memtest, gparted and clonezilla, which really | simplifies little one-off fixes. | stavros wrote: | How does the external NVMe work? Is there a USB enclosure for | it? How does it fare against a USB thumb drive? | wtallis wrote: | There are Thunderbolt based drive enclosures, but the | reasonably priced ones are all based on one of a handful of | USB to NVMe bridge chips. You usually get a 10Gbps link, so | nowhere near the speed the NVMe drive inside is capable of, | but about twice the performance of SATA-based USB drives or | the fastest that use a USB-native SSD controller. Compared | to a typical USB thumb drive, performance is night and day, | especially for writes and random access. | stavros wrote: | Interesting, thank you, though I guess I'd have to go USB | 3 or USB-C, as I don't have Thunderbolt. | Modified3019 wrote: | Nvme to usb enclosures can work great, but can also be | dodgy to work with. I personally find SATA enclosures more | reliable overall, as they are less demanding | | There are a few issues at play: | | 1. Power supply issues: the power demands of your mix of | enclosure and drive may not be satisfied by your USB | port(s), which can vary wildly in capability, and over | time. | | 2. The controller within the enclosure can overheat under | load. This seems to happen across many enclosures I've | tried. Larger enclosures may allow for attaching a tiny | heatsink. | | 3. NVMe drives may not gracefully handle sudden | disconnections. USB connections are inherently unreliable | interfaces prone to physical disruption and loss of power, | which will multiply against any normally hidden non- | resiliance in the nvme drive. | | If your drive decides to stop showing up, first try loading | up the boot device selection screen in the UEFI, and then | insert the drive. It may take several seconds to show up. | If trying that a few times doesn't work, the drive may be | stuck in some kind of bad state. You may be able to recover | from this with the unfortunately poorly known power cycle | technique https://dfarq.homeip.net/fix-dead-ssd/ | | The technique summarized is: | | 1. Connect to power (not data) only. Alternatively letting | the drive sit at bios setup screen also seems to work. Turn | on the power and leave the power on for 30 minutes. | | 2. After 30 minutes, power down or pull the power cable. | | 3. Wait 30 seconds, then restore power. | | 4. Let the drive sit powered on for another 30 minutes. | | 5. Power down again, then wait 30 seconds. | | Always set up automatic backups if you actually have non- | replaceable data on the drive. They can and will just | suddenly die forever with loss of all data, just like thumb | drives. _You have been warned._ | | All that said, there are generally less issues if you are | simply putting ventoy on it to just install an OS from an | iso. | | I have a dual raid1 sata enclosure that I use to boot a | windows to go install created with Rufus | (https://github.com/pbatard/rufus), which makes testing and | benchmarking so much nicer to deal with. I've even stuck | games on it, and other than relative filesystem slowness it | works pretty great, once I added a heatsink to the | enclosure controller. | CapstanRoller wrote: | Something like this tool-less Sabrent NVMe enclosure ($30 | https://a.co/d/2JOZsHn) paired with an inexpensive M.2 SSD. | | Not sure how gracefully the enclosure downgrades to USB 2.0 | speeds, but it's very handy and very fast. | | The SSD doesn't need to be fancy. It's overall bigger than | a typical thumb drive, but much more reliable and the SSD | can be easily swapped out. The detachable USB C cable on | the enclosure is also very convenient. | RunSet wrote: | I only recently learned that Ventoy can also boot from | Virtualbox VHD files and run them "on the metal". | | https://forums.ventoy.net/archive/index.php?thread-416.html | aspenmayer wrote: | Now that's awesome. Thanks for that, I was not aware of this | feature. | pxeboot wrote: | Microsoft has supported "Native VHD Boot" since at least | Windows 7 [1], but it is cool this project can configure it | automatically. | | [1] https://learn.microsoft.com/en- | us/virtualization/community/t... | sys_64738 wrote: | It's one of those tools that you don't know exists and then you | wonder how you did without. The ingenuity of FLOSS developers | never ceases to amaze me. | WallyFunk wrote: | I have the Gandalf rescue ISO[0] on this, among many other ISOs I | use incase I need to repair/rescue or install stuff. My Ventoy | setup is a veritable 'Swiss army knife' for general IT related | things. The Gandalf Windows preinstalled environment has all this | bundled with it, if anyone's interested: | Tools/Utilities included on this Windows PE: AoMei | Partition Assistant: Partitioning solution WinRAR: | Powerful archiver and archive manager 7-Zip: Archiver and | archive manager Defraggler: Disk Defragmenter MS | Paint and Wordpad: Microsoft's basic image and text editors | Macrium Reflect: Backup and disk imaging solution | CCleaner: System optimization, privacy and cleaning tool | Media Player Classic: Classic Windows media player | HWiNFO: Hardware information and diagnostic tool Snipping | Tool: Screen capture application. Windows Defender: | Microsoft's excellent antivirus app TeamViewer: Remote | control solution Double Drive: Driver backup application | Winmerge: File comparison tool Opera: Web Browser, Fast, | simple and safe way to get around on the web GetRight: | Download manager Ntpwedit: Change or remove passwords for | local system accounts Partition Wizard Virtual | Keyboard Virtual Magnifying Glass DiskCryptor: | Disk encryption application similar to Bitlocker | Bitlocker: Microsoft's disk encryption application | Powershell: Powerful automation tool is both a shell and a | scripting language UltraISO: Directly edit ISO files, | make images from CD/DVD-ROM Unlocker: Unlocker helps | delete locked files with error messages Gimagex: A | graphical user interface for the ImageX tool | SuperAntiSpyWare: Free Malware Remover Magic Jelly Bean | Key Finder: A utility that retrieves your Product Keys | HiJackThis: Spot home page hijackers and startup programs | Ghost: The classic imaging tool Skype: Provides video | chat and voice calls VNC Viewer: Remote Control Software | Sysinternal Suite Troubleshooting Utilities VLC Media | Player: Open-source cross-platform multimedia player | IrfanView Image Viewer FastStone Image Viewer: User- | friendly image browser, converter and editor Mozilla | FireFox: Another great browser Easy BCD: Boot management | tool and bcd editor Snipping Tool: Take snapshots | Drive Snapshot: Disk imaging solution MyLan Viewer: | Network/IP Scanner Rufus: Utility to format and create | bootable USB flash drives Wise Data Recovery: Recovery | program to get back deleted photos, documents, etc. | WinToolkit: Customize Your Windows Installation ImgBurn: | CD burning tool Treesize: Quickly Scan Directory Sizes | and Find Space Hogs Klite Codec Pack Basic | RecoverKeys: Retrieves your Product Keys Remote Desktop: | Latest version of Windows remote desktop DismGui: Dism | with a graphical interface Klite Codec Pack Basic | Google Chrome: Great Browser Powershell: Automation | scripting | | [0] https://www.fcportables.com/gandalf-boot-iso/ | kup0 wrote: | This is what I use most often these days for loading any system | with a Linux install (or to test drive distros it's an awesome | tool). | | I have found some hardware seems to have weird issues with drives | of a certain size (I tried using a 256GB external SSD and have | encountered a laptop that will not boot from it, and will only | boot from USB storage if it's like 32GB or lower or something | weird like that). But that appears to be a particular quirk of | that laptop and nothing to do with Ventoy in particular. | b8 wrote: | Very useful and neat. Beats using Rufus to image something. | golergka wrote: | Never heard of it before. Don't really have a use for it. But | still love the fact that HN frontpage brings these kinds of | projects up sometimes. | DrNosferatu wrote: | What about FreeDOS? | | FreeDOS with SBEmu is really nice for an instant DOS machine on | real hardware: | | https://github.com/crazii/SBEMU/releases | tarruda wrote: | I'm blown away by how easy this makes having a boot drive for | multiple operating systems while also letting the thumb drive | work normally as a data storage medium | jakebasile wrote: | Echoing the praise here. I just install this on all the USB | storage devices I have. If I have ISOs on it, now I can boot. | Otherwise I can use them as regular USB storage. | plagiat0r wrote: | There are hardware disk enclosures that emulate an optical drive | over USB and booting works on hardware level with "physical" | optical drive. | | But how ventoy achieve systems booting and detecting the iso | programmatically? I know that initially, there seems to be grub2 | reading usb file list and then it reads iso eltorito boot image | and boots from it, but how exactly the OS itself know about the | virtual drive? Is there an interface in uefi or bios that allow | emulate optical drive, or some other standard is at play and | operating systems just happens to support it? Window 10/11 pe / | installer, for example, reports the iso in diskpart as virtual | disk. Not an optical drive. Windows kernel actually mounts the | iso somehow automatically. | | Can someone point me on how this actually works, please. | dist-epoch wrote: | I don't know the answer, but it's not required to emulate an | optical drive. | | Modern UEFI BIOSes can natively boot from USB sticks, they can | save settings and screenshots to the USB stick (thus they are | not mounted read-only). | notimpotent wrote: | I've used similar tools like imageUSB and Rufus in the past. But | it looks like Ventoy is better in every aspect. Excellent! | latchkey wrote: | Discussions on similar submissions: | | _A New Bootable USB Solution_ | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28889392 (October 16, 2021 | -- 182 points, 47 comments) | | _Ventoy makes making bootable USB drives easy_ | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24273289 (August 25, 2020 -- | 66 points, 11 comments) | | _Ventoy: A new bootable USB solution_ | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24241485 (August 21, 2020 -- | 394 points, 106 comments) | | _Ventoy - A New Bootable USB Solution_ | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23394714 (June 2, 2020 -- 70 | points, 6 comments) | proxysna wrote: | Love the tool, been using it for a long time. But one thing that | it can't do is illumos based iso's. | mmgutz wrote: | Another plus is Ventoy can install Windows 11 without secure | boot, TPM from an official MS ISO. Some Linux distros cannot | install with those features enabled. | breakds wrote: | The only thing that I carry all day besides my laptop is a flash | disk with ventoy in it. ___________________________________________________________________ (page generated 2023-12-18 23:00 UTC)