[HN Gopher] Find out who owns a nursing home with our Nursing Ho...
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       Find out who owns a nursing home with our Nursing Home Inspect tool
        
       Author : webmaven
       Score  : 82 points
       Date   : 2023-12-21 19:13 UTC (3 hours ago)
        
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       | brindlejim wrote:
       | This is fantastic. The nursing home industry is dirty and sad,
       | with for-profit groups squeezing every cent they can out of
       | seniors who can't advocate for themselves, out of their families,
       | and ultimately out of the taxpayer. They do that by poorly
       | staffing their homes, and by creating networks of other legal
       | entities that charge the home money so it doesn't make a profit.
       | 
       | For example, a holding company might own the nursing home
       | operator as well as the building owner who charges them
       | exorbitant rent, or the service providers selling into the home.
       | If I had one piece of advice for someone with aging parents: find
       | a non-profit home if you need a home at all. The sisters of
       | mercy, the Jewish community homes. For-profit nursing homes are
       | to our era what insane asylums were to the 19th century. A
       | horrifying disgrace.
        
         | alamortsubite wrote:
         | I agree, but does Sisters of Mercy provide skilled nursing?
        
         | candiddevmike wrote:
         | This is where the government could step in and provide nursing
         | homes. They already end up paying for most of it via Medicare,
         | why not have more control over quality and standards. You could
         | even trial it via a (much needed) VA nursing home program for
         | vets
        
           | SoftTalker wrote:
           | I'm not sure the VA is a good example to hold up. Aren't VA
           | hospitals notorious horror shows?
        
       | uoaei wrote:
       | I have family who work in the nursing-home-conversion business.
       | Their clients are people who own residential properties who want
       | to convert them to nursing homes, ie, businesses. Business is
       | booming, particularly in overdeveloped retirement-friendly areas
       | (Phoenix, etc.). But basically anyone can start one of these
       | businesses as long as they can develop favorable relationships
       | with insurance and banks and jump through the necessary hoops to
       | get a provider number, etc., all services provided by the
       | conversion companies that are out there, so service quality
       | varies greatly between locations.
       | 
       | Personally I would be very cautious signing family into places
       | like this because knowing the bored-with-too-many-properties
       | money-grab types they probably do not want to be involved to the
       | extent that is necessary to keep things running smoothly and
       | safely.
        
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