[HN Gopher] Show HN: Intuitive nutrition information
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       Show HN: Intuitive nutrition information
        
       Hey everyone, I've been building this nutrition tracker and calorie
       counter recently, after being frustrated by existing products for
       ages. I built a similar app 8 years ago [1], but came back to this
       problem again since there are still no good solutions here. Lmk
       your thoughts and improvement ideas :)  [1]
       https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10077618
        
       Author : gusgordon
       Score  : 21 points
       Date   : 2023-12-29 20:18 UTC (2 hours ago)
        
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       | CrypticShift wrote:
       | While you certainly succeeded in simplifying the UX, I'm not for
       | simplifying the data on food. Is there any database of
       | "concentrations of vitamins, minerals, and micronutrients" you
       | could integrate?
       | 
       | I know this would defeat the purpose of a "simple" tracker, but I
       | believe that we need to support the message that food is
       | "complex" [1].
       | 
       | [1] https://www.bionutrient.org/bionutrientmeter
        
         | gusgordon wrote:
         | Totally - right now it's using the USDA food nutrient database
         | [1] which has all nutrients, so all the nutrients on the back-
         | end are there. Calories is the most important thing to the
         | majority of people (in my experience), so there's a balance
         | between showing too much information vs. keeping things simple.
         | Probably should just add a setting to show everything, though.
         | 
         | [1] https://fdc.nal.usda.gov/download-datasets.html
        
       | ivan_ah wrote:
       | That's cool, but it seems to be limited to macros and working
       | under the assumption that a calorie is a calorie.
       | 
       | It would be much more interesting to me to have an easy way to
       | access the information about "how processed" a food is, for
       | example using the NOVA classification[1,2,3] system or something
       | like that. I'm not sure if you can access that as a DB download
       | or an API of some sort, but worth looking into.
       | 
       | If you can't get data on this, then I'm pretty sure you can
       | approximate the nova score by based on the "added sugars" and
       | fibre contents... although it would be difficult to tell apart
       | "undisturbed fibre" vs. fibre added later on as additive.
       | 
       | [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nova_classification [2]
       | https://www.fao.org/3/ca5644en/ca5644en.pdf [3]
       | https://world.openfoodfacts.org/nova
        
         | XorNot wrote:
         | Why the hell would a person need an app to tell "how processed"
         | a food is? This is the one bit of information that is
         | contextually obvious.
        
           | stabbles wrote:
           | It's just a nuance to the rule of thumb, that doesn't warrant
           | such a strong reaction?
           | 
           | If a 1st order rule of thumb is keeping caloric contents in
           | check, a 2nd order rule doing that for nutrients
           | individually, I wonder if someone knows a good but easy third
           | order rule of thumb that takes into account processing.
           | 
           | Something like "when two foods have roughly identical
           | nutrients, prefer the one that has ingredients you could buy
           | or make at home" might either not help cause there are no two
           | such options to choose from, or it's too obvious (fresh pizza
           | at the supermarket is worse than a handmade pizza)
           | 
           | Is there a good rule of thumb that helps you pick relatively
           | healthy foods in a world where many foods are ultra-processed
           | already, and can't really be avoided?
        
       | beefman wrote:
       | Nice! Howabout adding a way to link to a meal?
        
       | hackyhacky wrote:
       | I entered "Cheerios" and was told one box of Cheerios cereal is
       | 61 calories; and that one box of _blueberry_ Cheerios is 611
       | calories. So I think that we need better quantification of units
       | than just  "box," since presumably these measurements are dealing
       | with boxes of different sizes.
        
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