[HN Gopher] Thinking About Internet History
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       Thinking About Internet History
        
       Author : dbelson
       Score  : 29 points
       Date   : 2023-12-30 20:19 UTC (2 hours ago)
        
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       | stl_fan wrote:
       | I think Archive.org wayback machine and archive.today are going
       | to be extremely valuable resources for "historical research" in
       | the future. I hope they can continue their work via donor
       | funding.
        
         | chaxor wrote:
         | Are there any developments towards helping these efforts out by
         | decentralizing / backing up parts of the archive and way back
         | machine data? I know torrents are hugely important in helping
         | to decentralize and maintain many important files in academia
         | and such (e.g. NN weights and CERN data) but I think cephfs is
         | also trying to allow decentralized data storage with
         | redundancy.
         | 
         | It seems like there is some solution which can provide a huge
         | data source to be decentralized over arbitrary number of nodes,
         | where each node can hold or back up just some part of the data,
         | and allow for a dashboard view that shows the level of
         | redundancy over all of the data for each of its parts.
        
       | Mizza wrote:
       | I've been thinking a lot about this too. I was thinking people
       | should start collecting written histories of their recollections
       | of the internet, so future historians can understand the dynamics
       | which shaped their future-present, like the "Great Digg
       | Migration" and the "Tumblr Exodus", etc.
        
         | DougEiffel wrote:
         | Even with written recollections and archives, it's going to be
         | so difficult to follow. Things just change so quickly. The
         | irony and memes that require you to understand 5 other memes
         | are just going to be so difficult to capture in any meaningful
         | way.
         | 
         | I also think people might not care that much. They'll have an
         | even more sophisticated and oversaturated version of the
         | internet and I'm thinking they'll only really care about a few
         | big highlights from our time. Whatever is contained in the
         | Wikipedia page for Reddit, Twitter, and Facebook will probably
         | be enough for most future people.
        
           | apantel wrote:
           | This is true for most people regarding any part of history.
           | But for any part of history there are those who take a deep
           | interest and want to piece together the minutia of what
           | happened. The limit case of that is an actual trained
           | historian who specializes in that part of history.
        
       | bongripper wrote:
       | I much rather think about real history, there is more to learn
       | from it for the future.
        
         | ChrisArchitect wrote:
         | "real"? If it's not archived or documented on the Internet
         | somewhere, did it really happen?
        
       | oldnetguy wrote:
       | Internet history is one part of the history of technology and you
       | have people already trying to preserve it. Look at all the
       | vintage computer groups that talk about the history of computers
       | and computing. Some even talk about the history of BBS systems.
       | They are the groups already involved and would enjoy the support
       | of others who are interested
        
       | ggm wrote:
       | I have come to the conclusion this will best be left to
       | professionals, and a significant amount of oral history has in
       | fact already been collected and curated, by professionals.
       | 
       | I wanted it to be me. The more I thought about it, the less
       | equipped I felt. In some ways, it's the technologists curse, to
       | believe your meta sense informs "the best way" when in fact,
       | you're disrespecting another disciplines praxis assuming your
       | amateur spider sense is the way.
        
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