(C) Daily Kos This story was originally published by Daily Kos and is unaltered. . . . . . . . . . . Ukraine update: The Tankies have a rough one, as Ukraine's allies open the spigot [1] ['Daily Kos Staff', 'Backgroundurl Avatar_Large', 'Nickname', 'Joined', 'Created_At', 'Story Count', 'N_Stories', 'Comment Count', 'N_Comments', 'Popular Tags'] Date: 2023-01-23 Let’s start with one of the dumbest American tankies, Michel Tracey (last seen arguing that the Holocaust was America’s fault, because remember, everything is). x Calling things “Orwellian” is a bit of a cliche. But come on. This is like “Orwell for Dummies” https://t.co/dJvsgNRrQN — Michael Tracey (@mtracey) January 19, 2023 Sheesh, this isn’t hard. Russia has invaded Ukraine, murdered tens of thousands of Ukrainian civilians, including children. They are engaging in systematic destruction of civilian infrastructure to maximize suffering. Yet Russia doesn’t have the juice to actually win the war, so there is an effective stalemate, with the contact lines barely budging. So either this continues indefinitely, with hundreds of soldiers and dozens of civilians dying daily, or Ukraine is given the tools to push Russia out and liberate the territory, hence, peace. I was going to say, “it’s like claiming that engaging in WWII against the Axis powers didn’t lead to peace,” and then I remember that well, this is the guy that claims that Hitler only murdered millions of Jews because of the United States entering the war. How about one more? x The nature of US involvement is still framed as merely "supporting" Ukraine, or "aiding" Ukraine -- such nice-sounding terms, which conveniently happen to obscure the reality of what is now a sprawling, rapidly escalating US military intervention. That doesn't sound quite as nice — Michael Tracey (@mtracey) January 20, 2023 It sounds fucking awesome, it’s what it sounds like. Also, it sounds like the U.S. could do more, like send ATACMS long-range rockets, M1 Abrams main battle tanks, and F16 fighter jets. There’s still hope! Can you imagine thinking that this was actually true? If only Ukraine would submit to Russia’s genocidal rampage, then something something. This student, the one far left in the picture above, actually chimed in. Of course, Hinkle’a lame story was bullshit, “They were barely doing introductions. The most obnoxious things he said were he watches Andrew Tate videos and reads the communist manifesto as his hobby. He was also hitting on the TA.” The irony, oh the irony! Such lack of self-awareness… Let’s check in on the King Daddy of the Tankies. x We know 3 things: 1) Putin waited to do a full-on invasion of Ukraine until Biden was in office. 2) CNN reported: among the materials in Biden's garage were Top Secret docs about Ukraine. 3) Hunter had access to that garage. Have these docs helped the Kremlin in its invasion? — Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald) January 22, 2023 If anyone can decipher that shit, please let me know. Leave it to conservatives to take a perfectly real scandal (Biden’s classified documents mess) and turn it into some weird bizarre Qanon conspiracy theory that turns everyone off. x The Western left is very arrogant. It thinks it knows better about Cuba than Cuban socialists, China than Chinese socialists, Russia than Russian socialists, etc. The Western left needs to humble itself. Stop baselessly criticizing those constructing socialism. — Midwestern Marx (@MarxMidwest) January 12, 2023 So “socialist” is now synonymous with “oligarchy”? That’s a weird definition of “socialism.” You know what’s fun? When Tankies and Nazis can’t settle on a Russia narrative: They're both wrong. Washington would be happy to ignore Russia and focus on China, if only it got the heck out of Ukraine. And the other guy is wrong about all the Nazi stuff. The BRICS stuff is hilarious—it’s the Tankie dream alliance for the so-called “multi-polar world.” It consists of Brazil, Russia, India, China, and South Africa, hence BRICS. Yet … neither India nor China are providing any tangible assistance to Russia. To the contrary, they’re fleecing it with significantly below-market gas and petroleum, as the rest of the world refuses to touch Russia’s blood product. None of these countries have voted with Russia in the United Nations, and India and Brazil have actually lodged direct votes against it. China is suddenly sending conciliatory signals to the United States as it continues trying to 1) distance itself from Russia’s war crime’ing, and 2) arrest the economic danger of an economically divesting West. India and the United States are enjoying their best relations since forever. In other words, BRICS is utterly useless to Russia. No one is supporting them outside a handful of pariah regimes, like Syria, Eritrea, and North Korea. This is a handy guide: Okay, the first one is true. The others … not so much. x Siri what's the definition of tankies. Siri: https://t.co/zm90HrBTKv — Abbas عباس (@zead454) January 19, 2023 Oh, here we go again with the nuclear threats: x NATO is now moving to send heavy tanks to Ukraine, a dangerous escalation. Each day, we are pushed further and further toward a catastrophic nuclear confrontation with Russia. pic.twitter.com/C8DcxILnIY — Party for Socialism and Liberation (@pslnational) January 12, 2023 Can you imagine if the U.S. threatened nuclear war during every faltered military intervention and war? Would the Tankies suddenly consider might-is-right? Oh noes, every non-nuclear state should submit, lest the nuclear power press the button! Tankies are mostly jokes, but this is the most dangerous of their lines. If the only way a country can protect itself in the modern world order is by owning nukes, what’s stopping mass proliferation? Why wouldn’t Taiwan, South Korea, all of Eastern Europe, everyone in Central Asia, and pretty much everyone else own nukes? If we want a world that limits nuclear proliferation, we need to make sure that the nuclear powers can’t bully their way to colonial gains with nuclear blackmail. x Medea Benjamin and Code Pink's idea of "peace" is literally letting Russia murder as many people as they can before forcibly taking Ukraine. pic.twitter.com/vPfd8PKWnn — Post-Left Watch (@PostLeftWatch) October 18, 2022 Less than two dozen jokers pining for Russian genocide isn’t a “rising” anti-war left. Not even the several hundred they got in NYC shows any real support for their fringe, murderous ideology: x What you won’t see in the news: people in NYC took the streets to speak out for PEACE in Ukraine and against NATO’ s imperialist war machine Russia Wire’s subscriber based in New York city has sent this video from a peaceful protest that took place in NYC on January 14. pic.twitter.com/xWaEJjWxg3 — Ignorance, the root and stem of all evil (@ivan_8848) January 16, 2023 Note, the American Tankies organizing this claimed thousands attended. Russia’s own propaganda arm claimed only “between 300 and 500.” Reality was likely a fraction of that. The crowd shots are very tightly cropped, to prevent any sense of scale or an accurate estimate. Click here to donate to help those escaping Putin's illegal invasion of Ukraine. 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