(C) Daily Kos This story was originally published by Daily Kos and is unaltered. . . . . . . . . . . The Wild Wild Chinese Spy Balloon Story keeps the GOP spinning [1] ['This Content Is Not Subject To Review Daily Kos Staff Prior To Publication.', 'Backgroundurl Avatar_Large', 'Nickname', 'Joined', 'Created_At', 'Story Count', 'N_Stories', 'Comment Count', 'N_Comments', 'Popular Tags'] Date: 2023-02-07 x If it flies over Texas - 100%. https://t.co/mDH2RtRQCO — F. Vyan Walton (@Vyan1) February 4, 2023 Michael Cohen: What are the chances some gun-toting dipshit tries to shoot down the balloon? 70% 90% x Yeah, I can see a pack of MAGAs with their AR-15s shooting at a balloon that is flying 60,000 feet in the sky. Somebody downrange from them is gonna get hurt. https://t.co/1Gfenl8PPQ — F. Vyan Walton (@Vyan1) February 4, 2023 Radio Justice: MAGA take one: What if the Chinese Spy Balloon has bio weapons to dump on us???MAGA take two: Why won't some avg citizen shoot the Chinese Spy Balloon out of the sky since Biden's coward military won't? x The people who did nothing about an attack on the Capitol may just want to stfu about their “concern” about a balloon. — Left Action (@LeftAction) February 4, 2023 x They made a decision, they won't shoot it down because that would endanger people on the ground. They aren't going to China. https://t.co/wwepKG6phG — F. Vyan Walton (@Vyan1) February 4, 2023 Sen. Ted Cruz: Everything about the Biden admin's response to the Chinese spy balloon reeks of indecision and weakness. They can't decide whether to shoot it down or not. They can't decide whether to go to China or not. 1/x x So you are apparently all for letting the debris crash into an airplane, smash a house, squish a car or destroy a business on the ground? Nice to know you care about the American people that deeply. https://t.co/3iiVMrE4Is — F. Vyan Walton (@Vyan1) February 5, 2023 Rep. Elise Stefanik: Joe Biden was tested on the world stage and abysmally failed. The Chinese spy balloon should never have been allowed to cross into our sovereign nation gathering intelligence. x The @GOP is just the grievance party now. They have no ideas. No plan. Just a rudderless ship of complaints. Sad! — Gov. Abbott Gotta Go (@desertdawg) February 4, 2023 x WHY let spy balloon in our space? 1) It was 18.5 miles up, almost in space. 2) it sends data link to PRC. We can intercept that & learn what China knows. We can jam it so they see nothing new. 3) The collection system is ours & can reconstruct it.They lose asset & we win spy game — Malcolm Nance (@MalcolmNance) February 4, 2023 x The craziest part of the Chinese balloon is that the US economy just added 517,000 jobs this month, the unemployment rate is at a 54-year low, and manufacturing has come roaring back in America. — Brian Tyler Cohen (@briantylercohen) February 3, 2023 x Oh ffs grow up. We spy on China and China spies on us. You Republican turds having a hissy fit over this look like such snowflakes idiots. For Christ sake England, France and ISRAEL spy on us and vice versa. This is why you don't vote Republican folks. Fear driven stupidity. https://t.co/zXsvJc2zUM — Texas Paul Schroder (@Paultx890) February 4, 2023 Greg Abbott: The China balloon flying over the U.S. is a direct assault on our national sovereignty. Biden’s refusal to stop it is a dereliction of duty.From flying balloons to open borders, Biden has no regard for our national security and sovereignty. x Ok, sure, maybe he would have just ignored it and swept it under the rug the way THAT TRUMP DID when a Chinese Spy balloon previously flew over the US.https://t.co/OctDrPU6NJ https://t.co/1ruwrri3NY — F. Vyan Walton (@Vyan1) February 5, 2023 Sen. Marsha Blackburn: Almost 48 hours after public discovery, the Chinese spying balloon has been shot down. It makes you wonder, would Biden’s Department of Defense have shot it down if the American people hadn’t found out? x And if a plane had collided into the debris as it fell - you wouldn't have turned around and blamed Biden for being so "reckless" and shooting the balloon down where it could *HIT* someone and something? Sure, you wouldn't. https://t.co/hkwImwx5FH — F. Vyan Walton (@Vyan1) February 5, 2023 Rep. Ronny Jackson: Three airports in North & South Carolina are CLOSED because of the Chinese Spy Balloon. How is this allowed to happen? This balloon should’ve been SHOT DOWN immediately after entering our airspace. Joe Biden is letting China HUMILIATE us! x If you’re upset about a Chinese spy balloon 60,000 feet in the air, wait until I tell you about the time a sitting U.S. president and a whole bunch of Republicans tried to overturn an election and overthrow our government with a deadly insurrection right here on the ground. — Jo 🌻 (@JoJoFromJerz) February 4, 2023 x Just about everything they claim Trump would never do - he actually did. https://t.co/ScU2jt0AMh — F. Vyan Walton (@Vyan1) February 5, 2023 x So, the very same people who supported the violent attack on our Capitol are losing their minds over the ‘national security threat’ of a friggin “Chinese spy balloon”? Do I have that about right? 🤔 — Jo 🌻 (@JoJoFromJerz) February 4, 2023 x They did that by alerting the press about it? https://t.co/weYHRDabWE — F. Vyan Walton (@Vyan1) February 5, 2023 House Judiciary GOP: THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION TRIED TO HIDE THE CHINESE SPY BALLOON FROM THE AMERICAN PUBLIC. They talked about how “tough” Trump was with China even though his tariffs lost us 245,000 jobs. x Because he's fucking crazy. But really, he was Dictator Autocrat Xi's bestest friend. They "Loved Each Other." https://t.co/Y21O5vpMno https://t.co/5xiVMrpzMr — F. Vyan Walton (@Vyan1) February 5, 2023 Brigitte Gabriel: China was scared to death of Donald Trump. We had the accusations that Biden was “in bed” with China — because of Hunter’s unpaid position on the board a Chinese financial company during the period when he wasn’t VP or Pres. Or something. x Was Trump concerned that Ivaka would lose all her patents and trademarks when he *didn't* shoot down the previous Spy Balloon from China?https://t.co/2Zkg3rNExt https://t.co/ModfCtRi8M — F. Vyan Walton (@Vyan1) February 5, 2023 Sen. Marsh Blackburn: Was Biden concerned with upsetting his friends and Hunter’s business partners over in China when assessing the Chinese spy balloon? x They didn't actually end the program, they expanded it to also include espionage from Russia, Iran and North Korea too. https://t.co/sauwpvuIp2 https://t.co/1LiLNjKktZ — F. Vyan Walton (@Vyan1) February 5, 2023 Marjorie Taylor Greene: Chinese espionage is a very real threat. That’s why President Trump established a special initiative at the Department of Justice tasked with the sole mission of targeting Chinese espionage in the United States. Joe Biden terminated that program right away. x Ask Ivanka about Chinese trademark, Trump about bank accounts in China & the spies that frequent Mar a Lardo. — DrEvans1784 (@DrEvans1784) February 5, 2023 x His phone number? https://t.co/tdcIsPNsQG — F. Vyan Walton (@Vyan1) February 5, 2023 Brigitte Gabriel: What do you think the Chinese have on Joe Biden? x 2021/22 proved the U.S. to be an unparalleled, really unchallenged superpower. From vaccines, to economic growth in the face of great obstacles, to military might through the support of Ukraine, US power remains unassailable. Your empty slogan reflect an anti-American sentiment. https://t.co/aURnLhTxqW — Alexander S. Vindman (@AVindman) February 4, 2023 Marco Rubio: China believes America is a weakened superpower with a reputation of strength that no longer holds trueAnd their message will now be that if Biden wouldn’t even shoot down a balloon,he isn’t going to do jack if China takes territory from India or Japan or invades Taiwan They tried to shoot it down themselves, — with handguns and rifles. x You’d miss. By 45,000 feet. This is why we need serious people in government. — Jack E. Smith ⚖️ (@7Veritas4) February 4, 2023 x oh my god, the stupidest fucking idiots in the world are out here firing handguns at a balloon that's ten miles above the earth, because when it comes to performative-nonsense dipshittery these clownshoes wingnut dumbfucks are second to none — Jeff Tiedrich (@itsJeffTiedrich) February 4, 2023 Then — he shot it down. And still, they complained. x Chinese spy balloon shot down off U.S. coast https://t.co/f0HvB7R1AV — F. Vyan Walton (@Vyan1) February 4, 2023 x The Chinese spy balloon was just shot down. No damages to properties, and no casualties. President Biden and the DOD knew what they were doing. — David Weissman ✡️ (@davidmweissman) February 4, 2023 x Yep. See this is a crucial difference between MAGAs and normal people. They over-react and respond in a knee-jerk panic to *EVERYTHING*. The rest of us stop, think and come up with a better, safer more practical way to accomplish the goal. Mission Accomplished. https://t.co/FKLRWKdXFH — F. Vyan Walton (@Vyan1) February 5, 2023 Rick Wilson: So...the decision to shoot down the thing was done on Weds. We monitored it, jammed its sensors, and gained intel on its capabilities, waited until it was out range where a crash could cause civilian harm, shot it down, and this is what is causing a million MAGAs to lose it. But guess what? Brigitte Gabriel: Why did the Biden Administration wait so long to shoot the balloon down? x Joe Biden shot down the Chinese balloon, you sad dipshits will just have to go back to being mad at stoves — Jeff Tiedrich (@itsJeffTiedrich) February 4, 2023 x No, actually - the balloon is at the bottom of the ocean off the coast of South Carolina. Open your window, go take a look. https://t.co/nmV8n1usRZ — F. Vyan Walton (@Vyan1) February 5, 2023 Nikki Haley: China would never let a spy balloon fly through their airspace. No strong leader would. And now, it’s flying above South Carolina. Capture the balloon. See what they are collecting. Hold Xi accountable. We need American strength back. x Our handling of the Chinese balloon saga offers a stark contrast between a measured commander-in-chief who relies on his intelligence services and an attention-hungry carnival barker who heeds only his juvenile instincts. — Jack E. Smith ⚖️ (@7Veritas4) February 4, 2023 x Marsha, Marsha, Marsha. On Wednesday he ordered it to be shot down "as soon as possible." This was the military who made the cautious call to avoid anyone being hurt by debris. https://t.co/K8TJb8dCy9 — F. Vyan Walton (@Vyan1) February 5, 2023 Sen. Marsha Blackburn: China would never let a spy balloon fly through their airspace. No strong leader would. And now, it’s flying above South Carolina. Capture the balloon. See what they are collecting. Hold Xi accountable. We need American strength back. x GOP this morning: How dare Biden not shoot the Chinese Spy Ballon down. GOP at 2PM: How dare Biden wait so long to shoot balloon down. Pentagon: We tracked the balloon, jammed it's signal & gathered data on it, before shooting it down over the Atlantic. GOP Now: Silence — Brian Krassenstein (@krassenstein) February 4, 2023 x The way Biden handled the Chinese surveillance balloon was a master class in homeland security Marjorie Taylor Greene is a 9/11-denying Trump-loving terrorist insurrectionist who undeservedly sits on Homeland Security Learn the f’ing difference — Lindy Li (@lindyli) February 5, 2023 x Trump was aware of 3 Chinese Spy Balloons and he waited longer than a week to inform the American people. He never did. https://t.co/4nEgITfMZf — F. Vyan Walton (@Vyan1) February 5, 2023 x To the GOP complainers: - The US BLOCKED the Chinese balloon from gathering intel while over land - The US used this time to gather intel on the Balloon itself - The US Shot the balloon down where no Americans could be harmed Mission Accomplished! Dark Brandon is WINNING! — Brian Krassenstein (@krassenstein) February 4, 2023 x The border is not "open" Matt. CBP has been apprehending and expelling 3-4 times as many migrants as Trump. They jammed the balloon, then shot it down when it was safe. You wanted a 7-mile debris field on top of South Carolina? https://t.co/xeOx6Uskh4 — F. Vyan Walton (@Vyan1) February 5, 2023 Matt Schlapp: We have Open Borders Now followed by Unprotected US airspace When do we get honest about our Commander in Chief? x For anyone who seems to have forgotten - “Tough on China” trump had a Chinese bank account controlled by a Chinese company which just happened to record exceptionally high revenue during his first year in office. But do go on about Pres. Biden being ‘weak on China’ won’t you. — Jo 🌻 (@JoJoFromJerz) February 4, 2023 x holy fucking shit, the screeching chaos monkeys are mad at Joe Biden for jamming the Chinese balloon, rendering it useless and waiting until it was over uninhabited water to safely shoot it down and recover valuable tech. I guess he should have done nothing, like Former Fuck did — Jeff Tiedrich (@itsJeffTiedrich) February 5, 2023 But there were some surprises. x Who are you and what have you done with Lindsey Graham? https://t.co/2rRJVmqVlg — F. Vyan Walton (@Vyan1) February 5, 2023 Lindsey Graham: Thank you to the men and women of the United States military who were responsible for completing the mission to shoot down the Chinese surveillance balloon. The Biden Administration did the right thing in bringing it down. And then it turned out — that it had happened to Trump too. x WOW. The Pentagon just confirmed that THREE Chinese balloons flew over the U.S. during the Trump presidency & not only did he not shoot them down, but he also didn’t say anything about it. Shows you how ridiculous Republicans are right now by only talking about the balloon. — Victor Shi (@Victorshi2020) February 5, 2023 x As Tommy Lee Jones famously asked another actor in The Fugitive, “Do you want to change your bullshit story?” We now know Trump let 3 Chinese balloons pass through U.S. airspace without shooting them down. What’s your story now? https://t.co/lA7wdX1Zdk — Rep. Eric Swalwell (@RepSwalwell) February 5, 2023 Marjorie Taylor Greene: I just spoke with our GREAT America First President Trump.He would have never allowed China to fly a spy balloon over our country and our military bases and assets. Pres Trump would have shot it down before it entered the US.And so would I. x Biden ordered the balloon shot down on Wednesday, as soon as it was discovered. The Pentagon decided to implement the operation in the safest way possible. When 3 Chinese Spy balloons flew over the US during Trump's administration he didn't a) publicize it and b) shoot it down https://t.co/W1LavtdlSf — F. Vyan Walton (@Vyan1) February 5, 2023 x Difference between Donald Trump and Joe Biden: When faced with a Chinese spy balloon, Trump kept it hidden from the public and ignored it. Biden informed US and shot it down. The other difference: Joe Biden is a decent man. Donald Trump is a Criminal. — Rob Reiner (@robreiner) February 5, 2023 x Actually, uh, Marge? He did allow a Chinese spy balloon to fly over the US, and he didn't even try to shoot it down. So, um, yeah, he lied to you.https://t.co/2Zkg3rNExt https://t.co/4NnkWT3XVh — F. Vyan Walton (@Vyan1) February 5, 2023 x He let THREE fly over, hid their existence and shot down none. So, let's talk about Trump's Chinese Bank accounts you tunt! https://t.co/3kesGTdYT3 — Texas Paul Schroder (@Paultx890) February 5, 2023 x So after we heard MAGA politicians in the last 24 hours screaming that "Trump would've shot it down," we just learned that Chinees spy balloons entered the US airspace THREE times when Trump was in the WH, and he refused to take any action. Hilarious. — Republicans against Trumpism (@RpsAgainstTrump) February 5, 2023 x Would anyone be the least bit surprised if we were to find out that trump made money off of the THREE Chinese spy balloons he let fly over American airspace during his time in office? — Jo 🌻 (@JoJoFromJerz) February 5, 2023 x GOPers attacked Biden for not shooting down the Balloon. Then he shot down the Ballon. They said Trump would never let the Balloon fly over the U.S. Trump let *3* Chinese Spy Balloons fly over the US. Are you noticing they make no sense and have no fucking shame yet? — F. Vyan Walton (@Vyan1) February 5, 2023 x Speaking of "in bed" with Xi - it was Trump who said they were "in love." https://t.co/Y21O5vpMno https://t.co/mdsfQ5KgYp — F. Vyan Walton (@Vyan1) February 5, 2023 Then they started to deny that the “3 Balloons” story was true. x Trump tried to deny reports on Sunday that China launched spy balloons over the U.S. during his presidency. But he was lying as usual. — Duty To Warn 🔉 (@duty2warn) February 5, 2023 x AP's source is Craig Singleton, a senior fellow at the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies. Bloomberg also had a defense source, as did the WSJ. The unnamed source from the Trump Admin said it was "no big deal." There's your "liar." https://t.co/2Zkg3rNExt https://t.co/EHdHJREdn2 — F. Vyan Walton (@Vyan1) February 5, 2023 Ray: Anonymous source, no proof=propaganda/lies x So Trump just let 3 Chinese spy balloons float all over the U.S., collecting intelligence, during his admin? He must have been worried they’d shut down his Chinese bank account — you know, the one he lied about not having — if he did anything — Asha Rangappa (@AshaRangappa_) February 5, 2023 x No, they're still talking crazy nonsense. https://t.co/pus9hJVhaY — F. Vyan Walton (@Vyan1) February 5, 2023 x AP's source is Craig Singleton, a senior fellow at the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies. Bloomberg also had a defense source, as did the WSJ. The unnamed source from the Trump Admin said it was "no big deal." There's your "liar." https://t.co/2Zkg3rNExt https://t.co/EHdHJREdn2 — F. Vyan Walton (@Vyan1) February 5, 2023 x Re MAGA not grasping that Biden actually handled the balloon thing perfectly: You’d think anyone who’s ever watched Hunt for Red October or any other espionage thriller would understand why the government doesn’t always tell the world every move that it’s making. — Charles Gaba (Had a blue check pre-11/07/22) (@charles_gaba) February 5, 2023 x As compared to the INFLATION REDUCTION ACT and the GOP who've done absolutely nothing. Also, he did shoot down the balloon. https://t.co/k3hLRCuPZG — F. Vyan Walton (@Vyan1) February 5, 2023 x And he did this by telling the American public, while Trump hid *3* Chinese Spy balloons from the American public. Just who can you trust? https://t.co/weYHRDabWE — F. Vyan Walton (@Vyan1) February 6, 2023 x Who ran the deficit up to $3 Trillion!!! Trump. Who brought the deficit down by $1.7 Trillion so far? Biden. What the f-ck are you talking about again? https://t.co/0tdbYWL3FS — F. Vyan Walton (@Vyan1) February 6, 2023 x Which makes no sense at all, because Blinken cancelled the China trip last Wednesday. Balloon wasn't shot down until Saturday. https://t.co/f9ipXGFoLO — Sko Hayes (@skohayes) February 6, 2023 Marco Rubio, in the midst a massive performative freakout over the China Spy Balloon blamed Biden for “Dereliction of Duty” for not immediately shooting it down. [But he doesn’t say this about Trump who sat on his hands for 3 hours while the Capitol was ransacked] Then he got called out on LIVE Air over the fact that it had happened to Trump 3 previous times. x ABC host pops Marco Rubio's balloon rant: It 'happened three times' under Trump https://t.co/h6SU2QY1SJ — #TuckFrump (@realTuckFrumper) February 5, 2023 x Trump has golfed with Chinese spies, let Chinese spies into Mar-a-Lago, secretly asked the Chinese Communist Party to interfere in US elections, publicly asked the CCP to interfere in US elections, hid Chinese assets, failed to handle 3 CCP spy balloons, slathered praise on Xi... pic.twitter.com/7aJgNpT3PG — Seth Abramson (@SethAbramson) February 5, 2023 x Prolly not as much as the CCP funded Ivanka and Trump's Truth Social. https://t.co/lxumjMTc7X — F. Vyan Walton (@Vyan1) February 6, 2023 That was supposed to be “AP.” x Not compared to the guy who ran up a $3 Trillion deficit, lost 2.9 Million jobs, let North Korea keep testing nukes, helped Iran build a nuclear bomb, gave Russia a pass, encouraged China's genocide and let 1 Million Americans die from a preventable disease. That would be Trump. https://t.co/Cbhq42tokt — F. Vyan Walton (@Vyan1) February 6, 2023 x Remember when Donald Trump lied about a virus that killed over a million Americans and no one talks about it because it’s not close to the worst thing he’s done? — Tim Hannan (@TimHannan) February 5, 2023 x I was in a meeting where Donald Trump asked a group of us to lay off XI and China telecom ZTE because he promised XI, and he doesn’t want to disappoint him. Bolton wrote about this, I can confirm. I was shocked. https://t.co/VX54WinVYr — Adam Kinzinger #fella (@AdamKinzinger) February 5, 2023 x Trump hid his Chinese bank account Hid the fact that he paid more in taxes in China than at home Hid the fact that 3 Chinese balloons infiltrated our airspace during his admin Hid the fact that Covid was coming & was gonna be bad Traitor hid this shit from us & got us killed — Lindy Li (@lindyli) February 5, 2023 x If President Biden had shot the balloon down over land and ANY of the 7 miles of it’s debris caused ANY damage to ANY American, Republicans would have screamed about his “carelessness”. No matter what he does, they’ll always find SOMETHING to complain about. It’s what they do. — Jo 🌻 (@JoJoFromJerz) February 5, 2023 x Biden handled the Chinese Spy Balloon flawlessly. The Pentagon was able to collect data from the Chinese balloon while simultaneously preventing the balloon from gathering US data. He ignored the cries from Marjorie Greene and Jim Jordan -- and the country is safer because of it. — Dash Dobrofsky (@DashDobrofsky) February 5, 2023 x The obvious reason Donald didn’t shoot down the Chinese spy balloons while he was president is because he and his family have business interests there. Besides, he probably gave them all the intel they wanted in exchange for all those fast-tracked Ivanka patents. — Mueller, She Wrote (@MuellerSheWrote) February 5, 2023 x When the Covid pandemic came from China, Trump hid the truth and said it was no big deal When THREE balloons came from China, Trump hid the truth and said it was no big deal Turns out America First was a hot steaming crock of shit Anyone surprised? — Lindy Li (@lindyli) February 5, 2023 x What part of the PENTAGON produces the "Left-Wing" Hoaxes? https://t.co/11hbgY6vLt — F. Vyan Walton (@Vyan1) February 6, 2023 Collin Rugg: BREAKING: Chinese spy balloons flown “during Trump admin” were found out about *after* Trump left office.Just another left-wing hoax. x This is your stance now? Blind disbelief? Even FoxNews is reporting this. The sources are on the record. It's officially confirmed by the Pentagon. You don't trust THE PENTAGON anymore? Oi vey. https://t.co/CB2sGbSfuD — F. Vyan Walton (@Vyan1) February 6, 2023 Jayne.Q.Publik: We just learned about the alleged 3 balloons? You know that's FakeNews. Noone saw it, no photos. COME ON MAN. x It's always everyone else's fault *except* Trump with you people. Perhaps they didn't tell him because they couldn't *trust* him with sensitive intel? Just like when he revealed TS/SCI classified intel from Israel to Russia in front of the Russian press? https://t.co/K18giyMYvK — F. Vyan Walton (@Vyan1) February 6, 2023 Charlie Kirk: Are we supposed to forget Mark Milley leaked information to Xi and back channeled against Trump while he was President? What did Milley know about this balloon, and when did he know it? Milley just told China we weren't going to attack them because we weren't. You’d like to keep that a secret so that they would overreact? x Considering trump called veterans and active duty service members suckers and losers - YES - I will take the word of the US Military over that of the five-time draft dodging fascist that can't operate an umbrella EVERY SINGLE TIME. — Mueller, She Wrote (@MuellerSheWrote) February 6, 2023 Then they started to blame the Military, Gen Mattis specifically. x No. It’s called having an insane person as president. https://t.co/bxd3jQu8fV — Rocky Mountain Mike (@RockyMntnMike) February 6, 2023 x It means Trump would have done something stupid, like shoot the fucking thing down over an inhabited area and get somebody killed. Everything the GOP is currently claiming, says this is true. https://t.co/I8l8np6bsH — F. Vyan Walton (@Vyan1) February 6, 2023 Duty to Warn: There are reports General Mattis chose not to inform Trump about the Chinese spy balloons because Trump was “too provocative and aggressive.”Conservative Twitter is calling this treason, but if true, it actually showed good judgment about a bad commander in chief. So much for their vaunted undying support of the military. And the beat goes on. x Jobs are better. Unemployment is better. Wages are better. Inflation is getting better. Illegal immigration is getting better. The deficit is better. Prescription drug prices are better. Infrastructure is getting better. Burn pits - better. Climate Change - better. https://t.co/tPxbwxD30E — F. 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