(C) Daily Kos This story was originally published by Daily Kos and is unaltered. . . . . . . . . . . Rs on wrong side of polls on mifepristone, choice, indictment, Trump, insurrection, vaccines,biglie [1] ['This Content Is Not Subject To Review Daily Kos Staff Prior To Publication.', 'Backgroundurl Avatar_Large', 'Nickname', 'Joined', 'Created_At', 'Story Count', 'N_Stories', 'Comment Count', 'N_Comments', 'Popular Tags'] Date: 2023-04-10 One indictment by one grand jury has already been handed down, but Popok believes DA Willis will seek an indictment from a grand jury that she will empanel in May, and a third indictment could be coming from the special counsel's grand jury whenever he empanels one. The indictments are helping Trump with his base, but they are not helping him with the broader electorate. The Republican Party’s polling continues to be the opposite of the general election. This was true of the big lie (see here and here ) , it was true of vaccines and the novel coronavirus, and it was true of the insurrection. . the big lie: Nearly 700 days later, most Republicans still believe Trump’s big lie I wrote a sort of beginner’s guide to debunking claims of fraud a week or so ago. Since the election, Monmouth University has asked Americans whether they attribute President Biden’s 2020 victory to his winning fair and square or his winning due to voter fraud. (Phillip Bump, the author notes the importance of the wording, “voter fraud” which is specific) On average, over the course of those nine polls, 64 percent of Republicans have blamed voter fraud — just shy of two-thirds of the total. [a great comment : These people simply don't believe in, or abide by, the fundamentals of democracy. They refuse to accept any election results unless they win. That's not democracy, it's fascist totalitarianism.] . Take a series of polls from Gallup, conducted in 2001, 2015 and 2019. Each time, Gallup asked respondents the same questions about vaccines, and while there was always anti-vaccine representation across the political spectrum, the most recent poll showed a spike in the adoption of anti-vaccine views among Republicans and independents. Republicans who are white evangelical Protestants were more likely to be against the vaccine than those of other religions, with 55% accepting the vaccine versus 67% from other religions, while 24% of evangelicals refused the shot and 21% are hesitant about it (versus 16% and 17% for other religions, respectively). The most likely group to refuse the Covid-19 vaccine are Republicans who consume far-right television news Believers in the QAnon conspiracy . the novel coronavirus: Gallup finds: Specifically, while Democrats and independents increasingly see COVID-19 as more deadly than the seasonal flu, Republicans' views have not changed. And while Democrats tend to think the death toll from COVID-19 is understated, Republicans believe it is exaggerated. While more Americans realized the coronavirus was deadlier than the seasonal flu in mid-April (67%) compared with late March (60%), this trend toward greater knowledge did not hold among Republicans. [their polling showed that 42% of republicans originally{mid March 2020} believed that the novel coronavirus was more deadly than the flu and at the end {mid April 2020} , 40% of republicans believed that the novel coronavirus was more deadly than the flu] (Here is what Gallup is reduced when trying to explain republican refusal to accept or state plain facts): First, Republican respondents may know the correct answer but provide the incorrect answer to demonstrate their support for the Trump administration (HOLY SHIT) . Forbes Poll: Most Republicans Say Covid Threat Overblown, U.S. Handled Outbreak Well Just 38% of American adults say the United States has handled the coronavirus outbreak about as well as it could have, but 71% of Republicans are satisfied with the country’s response compared to 10% of Democrats. Among Republicans who say they get most of their coronavirus news from President Donald Trump and his task force, confidence in the U.S. response jumps to 90%. Some 63% of Republicans believe the outbreak has been made into a bigger deal than it actually is, compared to 14% of Democrats and 36% of Americans overall. . The Hill When asked how much responsibility does former President Trump bear for the Jan. 6 riot, 43 percent of Republicans said that he had no responsibility for the takeover. Ten percent of Republicans said that he had “a lot” of responsibility, 19 percent said he had “some” and 20 percent said he had “a little.” Across the aisle, 3 percent of Democrats said that Trump had no responsibility for the takeover. More than 60 percent said that he had “a lot” of responsibility for the attacks, 16 percent said he had “some” and 12 percent said he had “a little.” . The Guardian More than a quarter of Republicans approve of the January 6 Capitol attack, according to a new poll. More than half think the deadly riot was a form of legitimate political discourse . The Economist and YouGov survey said 27% of Republicans either strongly or somewhat approved of the riot on 6 January 2021, which Donald Trump incited in an attempt to overturn his election defeat by Joe Biden. The Republican party itself has called the riot legitimate political discourse. In February 2022, a Republican National Committee resolution said Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger, the two Republicans on the January 6 committee, were pursuing the “persecution of ordinary citizens engaged in legitimate political discourse”. . US News and World Report Three-Quarters of Republicans Sympathize With Jan. 6 Rioters: Poll A similar number of Republicans, 78% believe an investigation into the day’s actions is a ‘waste of time.’ Half of poll respondents called the Jan. 6 attackers "criminals," with 38% saying they "went too far, but had a point," and 6% declaring the attackers acted appropriately. And again, there were sharp partisan differences on the views of the insurrectionists. The survey found that 85% of Democrats believed the attackers to be criminals, with 13% saying they went too far, but had a point, and 1 percent saying they acted appropriately, while 17% of Republicans labeled the Jan. 6 attackers as criminals. Nearly two-thirds of GOPers, 66%, said the attackers had a point but went too far, and 11% said they acted appropriately. . Now, we can add the impact of the indictment by the grand jury to the mix. From Alternet, we have the following intriguing title, “ Multiple polls suggest GOP could be “burnt to a crisp” if Trump is the nominee in 2024” "A majority of Americans (53%) believe he intentionally did something illegal, according to a new ABC News/Ipsos poll. An additional 11% say he acted wrongly but not intentionally. Only 20% believe Trump did not do anything wrong, and 16% say they don't know, per the ABC News/Ipsos poll conducted using Ipsos' KnowledgePanel," ABC News reported on Sunday.Yet ABC's findings may not be an outlier. And I just wonder, doesn't this continue to be good for Trump in the party and the Republican Party but terrible in the general election?" Acosta asked his guests. "Well, it is like I tell my husband – I'm doing a side eye right here because I saw him make-up fight – the truth is, you're right, Jim," Hoover responded.And to your point about, you know, Trump's resurgence being, you know, a poison pill for a general election, what CNN's new poll is showing only 26 percent of Independent voters support approval of Donald Trump. Over 60 percent thought an indictment was justified. Only 8 percent said it was, had had no merit at all. Those are Independent voters who end up making the decisions in general elections. So you know the party — you know, he may thrive on the oxygen of attention – but if that moth keeps going to that flame, it's going to be burnt to a crisp," Avlon opined. 538 says that the indictment is making Trump more popular among his supporters. All of this makes it seem unlikely that the events of this week will cost Trump any supporters. Georgia Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene compared Trump to Nelson Mandela and Jesus ahead of his arraignment, framing the indictment in a narrative of political persecution. That attitude might help explain why Trump’s Republican support actually grew following the indictment. In a Yahoo! News/YouGov poll of U.S. adults conducted just as news of the indictment broke late last week, 57 percent of Republicans and Republican-leaners said they would support Trump in a hypothetical head-to-head 2024 Republican primary against his nearest would-be challenger, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, who received only 31 percent. That represented an increase in support for the former president,… News of the impending indictment had been trickling out for weeks, and during that time Trump’s lead over DeSantis was generally increasing. All of it indicates that Trump’s legal troubles could make his supporters like him even more . Here is what CNN found: Sixty percent of Americans approve of the indictment of former President Donald Trump, according to a new CNN Poll conducted by SSRS following the news that a New York grand jury voted to charge him in connection with hush money payments made to adult film actress Stormy Daniels. About three-quarters of Americans say politics played at least some role in the decision to indict Trump, including 52% who said it played a major role. Independents largely line up in support of the indictment – 62% approve of it and 38% disapprove...62% of women, 58% of men, 71% of Hispanic adults The poll finds his favorability rating at 34% favorable to 58% unfavorable, similar to his standing in a January CNN poll, in which 32% held a favorable view of the former president and 63% an unfavorable one. Among Republicans, 72% hold a favorable view in the new poll, similar to the 68% who felt that way in January. Quinnipiac says Fifty-five percent think the accusations are either very serious (32 percent) or somewhat serious (23 percent), while 42 percent think the accusations are either not too serious (16 percent) or not serious at all (26 percent). Americans 57 - 38 percent think criminal charges should disqualify former President Donald Trump from running for president again, if charges are filed against him as a result of multiple state and federal criminal investigations, according to a Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh-pea-ack) University national poll released today. Democrats (88 - 9 percent) and independents (55 - 36 percent) think criminal charges should disqualify Trump from running for president again, while Republicans (75 - 23 percent) think criminal charges should not disqualify him from running again. Politico: In a number of surveys released over the past two weeks, most Americans said the then-rumored charges against Trump were fair and serious. In an NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist College poll released last week, 56 percent of Americans said, taken together, the investigations into Trump’s conduct were fair, and 55 percent of voters in a Quinnipiac University poll out this week said the probe into Trump’s alleged hush-money payments to porn star Stormy Daniels was serious. But among Republicans, those numbers were all reversed. They believed Trump was being unfairly targeted — 80 percent of Republicans in the Marist poll said Trump is facing a “witch hunt” — and New York County District Attorney Alvin Bragg’s office was bringing charges for conduct that is either legal or not serious enough to merit criminal indictment. . . Republicans are on the wrong side of the choice issue: their forced birther nonsense is popular within the GOP but not with the broader electorate Politico: Abortion was a 50/50 issue. Now, it’s Republican quicksand. Conservatives are finding out the hard way that abortion isn’t a 50-50 issue anymore. Janet Protasiewicz’s 11-point blowout victory this week for a state Supreme Court seat in Wisconsin was just the latest example of voters who support abortion rights outnumbering — and outvoting — their opponents. Six in 10 voters support legal abortion in most cases. Just over a third want it to be entirely or mostly illegal. . . . CNN says (Harry Enten): Why Republicans are in trouble: Trump and the abortion issue aren’t going away Neither abortion nor Trump seem to be going away as an issue in 2023. This suggests that the factors currently at play are similar to those in the latter half of 2022. Following the US Supreme Court’s decision to overturn Roe v. Wade halfway through the year, Democrats started to outdo Biden’s 2020 margins in districts that held special elections. Democrats push abortion rights to the ballot in 2024, using an old GOP playbook And Democrats had a historically exceptional night in the November midterms. They more than held their own, despite Biden’s approval rating being well south of 50%. Abortion was at the forefront of the Wisconsin Supreme Court race, with liberals hoping that a win by Protasiewicz would provide them with a majority to legalize the procedure statewide. And Trump remains the clear favorite for the GOP nomination for president, despite his indictment and continuing unpopularity among the general electorate. If those things don’t change going into 2024, Republicans may be in big trouble. . CNN also says (about banning the pill): Polls show why banning abortion pills could be a bad move for Republicans CNN's Harry Enten breaks down polling that shows moves to restrict abortion have boosted Democrats at the ballot box. . . Once again, then, the Republican Party and republicans have political views that are far out of the mainstream and bear little resemblance to reality. They are out of touch with the broader electorate on the big lie, out of touch with the broader electorate on vaccines, out of touch with the broader electorate on the novel coronavirus, out of touch with the broader electorate on the insurrection, out of touch with the broader electorate on choice, and out of touch with the broader electorate on Trump being indicted. I don’t see this changing anytime soon. The 2022 midterms give us reason to work hard and have hope for the 2024 elections. [END] --- [1] Url: https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2023/4/10/2163104/-Several-polls-show-indictment-helps-Trump-in-primary-but-is-terrible-for-him-in-the-general Published and (C) by Daily Kos Content appears here under this condition or license: Site content may be used for any purpose without permission unless otherwise specified. via Magical.Fish Gopher News Feeds: gopher://magical.fish/1/feeds/news/dailykos/