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The MAGA movement is a Direct Terrorist Threat against America [1]

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Date: 2023-08-10  

It’s time we faced the sad truth. Yesterday a Utah man threatened President Biden, VP Kamala Harris, DA Alvin Bragg and AG Merrick Garland with death — and when he was confronted for his violent public social media threats against these and other individuals by the FBI, he pulled a gun and forced them to kill him.

Court documents show that a Utah man who was fatally shot Wednesday during an FBI raid over alleged threats against Joe Biden had made social media posts suggesting a plot to shoot the president during an Aug. 7 visit to Utah, Fox 13 reports. "I hear Biden is coming to Utah. Digging out my old Ghille suit and cleaning the dust off the M24 sniper rifle," Craig Robertson wrote, according to the report. This wasn’t the first time Robertson threatened a public official on social media, according to the report. In March, Robertson said he planned to travel to New York to Kill Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg. "I’ll be waiting in the courthouse parking garage with my suppressed Smith & Wesson M&P 9mm to smoke a radical fool prosecutor that should never have been elected," he posted. "BYE, BYE, TO ANOTHER CORRUPT B______!!!” Robertson wrote. The probe that led to Wednesday’s raid started in April and involved “credible” threats, an official briefed on the case told ABC News. The shooting occurred around 6:15 a.m. local time, according to the FBI’s Salt Lake City office, the report said. Special agents were trying to serve arrest and search warrants at a Provo residence.

Is this the typical Trump supporter? Apparently not, but it’s also true that this is part of a trend that has been slowly growing ever more serious. You can start with Cesar Sayoc the alleged “Maga Bomber” who sent explosive devices to CNN and other media outlets. Then you can consider the man who attacked FBI offices in Cincinnati was also killed and then there was recently a Texas man, who called for Arizona poll officials and their children to die in a mass shooting was sentenced to 2 and ½ years in prison.

These types of threats and attacks are growing more frequent, and more violent.

We’ve all seen this before, but let’s take a second to consider that this person is entirely serious when she claims that "if Trump is convicted we’re headed for Civil War.”

A supporter of Donald Trump spooked NBC News reporter Vaughn Hillyard by floating a "civil war" if the former president gets convicted of crimes. While speaking with the MAGA faithful at a recent Trump rally, Hillyard encountered one woman who warned violence was coming if a jury found Trump guilty. "If Donald Trump were to be found guilty by a jury, where do you see this going?" he asked her. "Civil war," she replied instantly. "Civil War. Divide it up. Because we can't live together, obviously."

And here in Florida, we have.a man who claims to have been a former Federal Agent (I would guess DEA) in Dade County who also threatens violence if Trump “Is indoctrinated[sic]” it will make “January 6 look like a playground. There are a lot of boys like me who are ready. We’re ready. We’ve got This country's so left right now, we've got to bring it back to the right, we got to get back on the right path. If we don't this country will crumble.”

Former Officials have been saying this for months, what this woman and man suggests is exactly what has been already happening.



Look at the number of mass shootings that have happened with were directly influenced by Trump’s "Great Replacement” theory that Jews and minorities are striving to import Latinos who are going to “change the nature of the nation??”

This has the chief theme of the four recent mass shootings which have all been inspired by the Trump-supported "Great Replacement” Theory.

[Buffalo - Tops Grocery] Authorities say Payton Gendron, a white 18-year-old from Conklin, New York, carried out an act of "racially motivated violent extremism" when he opened fire at the Tops Friendly Market. Most of the victims were Black. Authorities said they were investigating the attack, which the shooter livestreamed on Twitch until the company shut the broadcast down, as a potential federal hate crime or act of domestic terrorism. A 180-page manifesto, purportedly authored by Gendron, said the attack was motivated by the "Great Replacement Theory"—a racist conspiracy theory that claims white people are being replaced by minorities and people of color. The ideology fueled the deadly 2017 rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, where white supremacists chanted "Jews will not replace us." [...] [Pittsburgh — Tree of Life Synagogue] A white gunman with a history of spewing antisemitic slurs on social media barged into the Tree of Life Congregation synagogue in the Squirrel Hill neighborhood of Pittsburgh on October 27, 2018, and gunned down 11 worshippers. On social media, the suspect, Robert Bowers, espoused ideas associated with replacement theory, including blaming a Jewish group for allowing "invaders in that kill our people." [...] [El Paso — Walmart] Another white man who subscribed to the replacement theory opened fire on shoppers inside a Walmart in El Paso, Texas, on August 3, 2019, killing 23. A manifesto posted on 8chan by the alleged gunman, Patrick Crusius, shortly before the massacre espoused white supremacist rhetoric and railed against the "Hispanic invasion of Texas." He also told authorities that he "wanted to shoot as many Mexicans as possible." [...] [Christchurch — Mosques] The El Paso gunman was apparently inspired by a deadly attack against Muslims in Christchurch, New Zealand, that took place months prior. In that massacre, an Australian white supremacist is accused of killing 51 worshippers at two mosques on March 15, 2019. The gunman, Brenton Tarrant, reportedly authored a 74-page manifesto titled "The Great Replacement" that railed against immigrants and immigration, saying that "as long as a white man still lives, they will NEVER conquer our lands and they will never replace our people."

There have also been a series of attacks against the power grid fostered by White Supremacists, one recent group has tried to use the threat of one such attack to get a set of bank robbers released.

An alleged white supremacist threatened to attack the power grid unless two men who were arrested by the FBI for bank robbery in 2022 were released, The Daily Dot reported. Screenshots shared by the South Dakota Fusion Center (SDFC) show Telegram posts from an unidentified person demanding the release of the prisoners. The person shared “four diagrams of electrical grid transformer equipment” before saying that failure to release the men would “result in more attacks on infrastructure.” As The Daily Dot points out, the power grid was been attacked 107 times in the first eight months of last year. Most of the attacks were carried out with gunfire and were linked to far-right groups.

And let us recall that there are still the Proud Boys, Oath Keepers and the Boogaloo Bois who — to varying degrees — seek to initiate a second Civil War (Civil War 2: Electric Boogaloo) and that they have already been engaging in acts of terrorism including murdering a Federal Guard in Oakland during the Floyd protests.

This May 29, 2020 surveillance photo provided by the FBI shows a van with the passenger side door open as U.S. Air Force Staff Sgt. Steven Carrillo shot and killed federal officer Dave Patrick Underwood, 53, and wounded of another officer outside the Ronald V. Dellums Federal Building on May 29, 2020. (FBI via AP) SAN FRANCISCO (CN) — A member of an anti-government militia group who pleaded guilty to murdering a federal guard during George Floyd protests in Oakland was sentenced in federal court Friday to 41 years in prison. Air Force Sergeant Steven Carrillo, 33, pleaded guilty to two counts against him in February, and his defense’s plea bargain was accepted Thursday in court by Judge Yvonne Gonzalez Rogers. Carrillo was arrested in June 2020, one week after he opened fire on law enforcement officials near the Oakland federal courthouse on Clay Street, during a night of protests of the murder of George Floyd. He fired on two security guards on duty outside the Ronald V. Dellums Federal Building, from a van driven by Robert Justus — killing federal guard David Patrick Underwood and seriously wounding his partner. Law enforcement officers began a manhunt and located Carrillo’s residence in Ben Lomond. In a shootout at his home around 2:24 p.m. on June 6, Carrillo opened fire on and threw a pipe bomb at Santa Cruz County deputies, with one deputy dying from gunshot wounds and others wounded by gunfire. Carrillo was arrested that day by Santa Cruz County law enforcement officers, possessing the same assault rifle from the May 29 incident. Justus was arrested by the FBI on June 11, 2020.

Other than during January 6, it has not been in one big assault with hundreds or thousands of Trumpers on one side, and everyone else on the other — but it has been happening in small individual deadly violent attacks.

Juliette Kayyem during an appearance on CNN’s “The Source with Kaitlan Collins” called on political leaders to tone down their bombast. Kayyem’s comments came in response to a question from Collins over whether she thought there was a “correlation” between the incendiary rhetoric and Tuesday’s fatal shooting by authorities of a Utah man amid an FBI investigation over threats to President Joe Biden. “Well, absolutely,” Kayyem said, noting that “Chris Wray, the FBI director has said so, has said that he's never seen a threat environment like this heading into the election, especially targeted against people running and targeted against Democrats in particular when we see the online chatter, even though there are attacks against Republicans, it's just we're looking at quantity at this stage. Kayyem added that “People think about incitement like you know, the former President Trump might say something and people go off and do something, it's a little bit more complicated than that.” “How I describe what Trump is doing and some of his language and some of the language we're hearing from other candidates now, is that they're creating a permissive structure. They're creating permission to utilize violence as an extension of just our political debates." “They're normalizing it, they're winking at it, they're nodding at it, they're essentially, you know, serving as a magnet for it. And that's why it has to be condemned from the top, from the leadership within the GOP as well and essentially make the price of this conduct so sufficiently high that people will not do it.”

Former FBI Acting Director Andrew McCabe has stated something similar.

While appearing on CNN, McCabe discussed the recent case of Utah resident Craig Robertson, who was killed in a confrontation with FBI agents who were investigating what the agency described as credible threats to assassinate President Joe Biden. McCabe noted that Robertson had not only threatened Biden, but also Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg and Attorney General Merrick Garland, which suggests that he was gunning for people who are bringing criminal charges against the former president. "I feel fairly confident that this is the beginning of more threats," McCabe said. "We know that those people... are already having to live under bolstered security details because of the death threats they have received. We also know that President Trump's most extreme and, I'll add, deranged supporters... they listen to his comments very directly. We know that from the January 6 folks, some of whom said they only went to the capitol because the president told them too. McCabe then rattled off some other cases of Trump-inspired terrorism, including the so-called "MAGA bomber" Cesar Sayoc and Ricky Schiffer, who launched a suicide attack on an FBI field office shortly after agents executed a search warrant at his Mar-a-Lago resort. "I don't think that there is any doubt that we'll see... the FBI will continue to investigate additional cases in which people who are very, very tied to supporting the former president, [who] follow his threatening rhetoric, his dog whistle rhetoric which is constantly putting out there," said McCabe. "And some of those, the most extreme of which, will actually try to carry these things out."

The fact is that the “Civil War” that the Right is clamoring for — is already happening. This won’t be a battle of military forces, at least not initially.

Posse Comitatus is still in effect so - at least at first - it wouldn't be them vs the US Military. It would be them vs the Police and FBI, like what happened on Jan 6.

They won’t be very organized, it would be random acts of terrorism against government targets, or against minorities and infrastructure like the power grid.



It'll start [and is already happening] with apparently random attacks on Gays and Trans, random attacks on Blacks, Asians, Latinos and Muslims as well as gun assaults against law enforcement. Some Christian Preper MAGAs are already retreating from the rest of the nation and moving into a area of Idaho, Montana and Wisconsin which they call the “Great American Redoubt.”

x x YouTube Video

Federal forces would initially withdraw from seceding states such as the Redoubt, closing local bases - while local National Guard forces would remain in service of their local State.



As the terrorism increases the Insurrection Act would be implemented and then the Feds would return in force going against local Militias and National Guard.

Then the real party would start and Tennessee and Texas would start to look like Falluja and Kyiv from repeated drone strikes and F-22 attacks.



Assaults on Chicago and Atlanta would be repelled by gun-toting Black-led local militias against the aging portly forces of Oath Keepers and Proud Boys. Antifa would be fighting alongside Federal Forces against Fascist Insurgents.

x x YouTube Video They keep hyping this because they think they have guns so they would win. But black people have guns too and the Feds and Police have Tanks. Then there's air support and drones - so I don't think they have the advantage they think they do.

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