2000 From: Digestifier To: Subject: Dead-Flames Digest #489 Dead-Flames Digest #489, Volume #48 Tue, 4 Oct 05 13:00:01 PDT Contents: http://www.zippyvideos.com/6667137491282476/img_0001/ ("Law") Re: Fare thee well, Nipsey Russell (NDC) ("The Iron Muffin") Re: Bimbo's! (leftie) Re: GDTSTOO - Phil Lesh and Friends at Bimbo's, San Francisco (leftie) DOD: Iraq War Delayed Katrina Relief (NDC) ("Ray") Re: Marshall Tucker Band Rules! (Seth Jackson) Re: 5/22/77 Wharf Rat > Terrapin > Morning Dew. ("Andrew Murawa") Re: Bushie is a piece of shit... ("Everybody's Gonna Be Happy") Re: I tried to grow a beard ("Andrew Murawa") Re: I tried to grow a beard ("Andrew Murawa") Re: Janis Joplin - 35 years gone ("Dave Kelly") Re: Views from a Yoga Mat Vol. 1 ("Rogues Island's finest") Re: Bushie is a piece of shit... ("Ray") Re: Marshall Tucker Band Rules! ("neurodancer") Re: gdead ("Rogues Island's finest") Re: gdead ("neurodancer") Re: Baseball playoffs: don't get me started! (NDC) (Seth Jackson) Re: gdead (Seth Jackson) Re: I tried to grow a beard ("pookietooth") Re: Bushie is a piece of shit... (JC Martin) Re: Bushie is a piece of shit... (JC Martin) Re: gdead ("TNKEV") ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Law" Subject: http://www.zippyvideos.com/6667137491282476/img_0001/ Date: 4 Oct 2005 11:18:11 -0700 http://www.zippyvideos.com/6667137491282476/img_0001/ ------------------------------ Reply-To: "The Iron Muffin" From: "The Iron Muffin" Subject: Re: Fare thee well, Nipsey Russell (NDC) Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 14:25:26 -0400 ------------------------------ From: leftie Subject: Re: Bimbo's! Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 11:24:53 -0700 polasus@my-deja.com wrote: > What's the deal with no taping? Could be the size of the club? Small club, not much room, no real good spot for stands to be set-up w/o tripping people? (it's easier to prevent taping than tripping after all) ------------------------------ From: leftie Subject: Re: GDTSTOO - Phil Lesh and Friends at Bimbo's, San Francisco Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 11:26:33 -0700 DG wrote: >>Hmmm, no taping. What's up with that? I wonder if it has anything to >>do with Phil's son going to college? > > Phil's band sucks so he doesn't want it heard. Still so bitter that you didn't get a laminate (or even a real ticket stub) to the Phil & Phish shows. What a shame! ------------------------------ From: "Ray" Subject: DOD: Iraq War Delayed Katrina Relief (NDC) Date: 4 Oct 2005 11:36:54 -0700 "It's just flat wrong. Anyone who's saying that doesn't understand the situation." - Donald Rumsfeld, when asked whether the Iraq war hindered the military's response ================================================== Iraq war delayed Katrina relief effort, inquiry finds By Kim Sengupta Published: 03 October 2005 Relief efforts to combat Hurricane Katrina suffered near catastrophic failures due to endemic corruption, divisions within the military and troop shortages caused by the Iraq war, an official American inquiry into the disaster has revealed. The confidential report, which has been seen by The Independent, details how funds for flood control were diverted to other projects, desperately needed National Guards were stuck in Iraq and how military personnel had to "sneak off post" to help with relief efforts because their commander had refused permission. The shortcomings in dealing with Katrina have rocked George Bush's administration. Michael Brown, director of the Federal Emergency Management Agency, has resigned from his post and polls show that a majority of Americans feel the President showed inadequate leadership. The report was commissioned by the Office of Secretary of Defence as an "independent and critical review" of what went so wrong. In a hard-hitting analysis, it says: "The US military has long planned for war on two fronts. This is as close as we have come to [that] reality since the Second World War; the results have been disastrous." The document was compiled by Stephen Henthorne, a former professor of the US Army's War College and an adviser to the Pentagon who was a deputy-director in the Louisiana relief efforts. ... The report concludes: "The one thing this disaster has demonstrated [is] the lack of coordinated, in-depth planning and training on all levels of Government, for any/all types of emergency contingencies. 9/11 was an exception because the geographical area was small and contained, but these two hurricanes have clearly demonstrated a national response weakness ... Failure to plan, and train properly has plagued US efforts in Afghanistan, Iraq and now that failure has come home to roost in the United States." --- http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/article316682.ece ------------------------------ From: Seth Jackson Subject: Re: Marshall Tucker Band Rules! Reply-To: hitmeister .at. mindspring .dot. com Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 18:38:04 GMT On 2 Oct 2005 09:12:41 -0700, "Brett" wrote: >I have so many great memories about Tucker and their music. > >Did anyone else here have the pleasure of seeing Marshall Tucker live >in concert? They opened for the Dead and NRPS at Englishtown on 9/3/77. I don't recall much about their set. ------------------------------ From: "Andrew Murawa" Subject: Re: 5/22/77 Wharf Rat > Terrapin > Morning Dew. Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 11:37:50 -0700 "rcb30" wrote in message news:1128192313.789101.295780@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Keith's ornamentation in Wharf Rat, the ease into and gear-shift > during > Terrapin, and the Jerry/Keith interplay from the quietest to the peak > of the Dew instrumental ending. > > I'm just sayin'. > > rcb Um, yeah... Plus, how about the Estimated>Eyes that precedes this, with the extra-special extended-jam lead-in to Eyes... Probably my favorite Dick's Picks... At least, for the next several minutes... ------------------------------ From: "Everybody's Gonna Be Happy" Subject: Re: Bushie is a piece of shit... Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 11:40:38 -0700 "Ray" wrote in message news:1128449153.442299.157960@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Everybody's Gonna Be Happy wrote: >> "Ray" wrote: >> > Everybody's Gonna Be Happy wrote: >> >> The Democrats asked that Bush consider nominating someone outside of >> >> the >> >> usual suspects, someone who is not a judge. That's who he nominated. >> >> > Reid recommended to Bush that Miers be considered, but it's not clear >> > me that "The Democrats" asked that Bush nominate a non-judge. I'm not >> > saying that isn't the case, or whether it's good or bad, but aside from >> > Reid's recommendation and your declaration that Leahy recommended that >> > a non-judge be nominated (which I also haven't read anywhere else - >> > source?), I haven't read as much. Can you elaborate? Thanks. >> >> As usual, my source is C-Span. Leahy, Spector and a couple other >> senators >> were outside the White House after meeting with Bush about who he might >> nominate. Leahy said he once again brought up his long held idea that >> someone who was not a judge be nominated. Spector said he did the same. >> When asked Bush's reaction, Leahy said Bush smiled (smirked) but that was >> it. He said he didn't hold out much hope after getting that reaction, >> but >> he got what he asked for anyway. >> >> Leahy has been saying this for years in the Judiciary Commitee; that he >> wanted a president to nominate somebody other than a judge. > > Thanks for the so 2000 urce for Leahy. Two prominent Democratic senators > (one Minority Leader, the other the ranking Dem on the Judiciary > Committee) is still not the same as "The Democrats" requesting that > Bush nominate a non-judge, however. Oh please. The Top Democrat in the Senate and the Top Democrat on the committee that matters asked for a non-judge. Of course that doesn't mean every single congressional Democrat, it means the most important ones that consulted with the president on the potential nominee. The Democrats asked for a non-judge. Not that it matters now, that's what they got, and no one is complaining about it. >> The fact is nobody has any idea about this woman. > Bush and Cheney have worked with her for years - they must have at > least *some* idea of her judicial philosophy. They don't seem to know much else................ but of course she's a conservative. Bush isn't going to nominate Arlen Spector or Michael Moore. This is the best the Dems could hope for. >> It all boils down to the hearings and what she says in response to >> questions. Its a free for all, an open process, with no one knowing how >> they're going to vote. You could have some Republicans voting against >> her, >> or all the Democrats voting against her, or most Democrats voting for >> her. > Agreed (unless major surprises get uncovered during the background > check). Maybe she smoked weed with Jerry Garcia. >> The interest groups on both sides are in a frenzy because they have >> nothing >> to campaign about for or against. > There are emerging indications that she's anti-choice: a declaration by > her former campaign manager ("She is on the extreme end of the > anti-choice movement"), and giving money to an anti-abortion group. I read that pro-life thing; this person heard her make one comment and then classified her as an "extremist". I don't doubt she's against abortion, most people are, its hardly an unusual position to take. The thing is she has done nothing during her career to advance the pro-life position, she's no anti-abortion activist. I don't know what she believes, we may find that out (or not). But the pro-lifers want an anti-abortion activist, someone who devoted her life to their cause. Apparently the issue wasn't important enough to this woman to have her devote her time and a career to it. IF (if if if) this woman is just some normal conservative who doesn't like abortion that's the best anyone could have hoped for considering who gets to make the nominations. If she's not some nut praying and marching and waving pics of dead babies, maybe she'll be just what the court should be composed of: People who of course have personal views, but who don't let those get in the way of interpreting the law. The right always says they don't anyone who "legislates from the bench", when in fact that's exactly what they want. They want an activist right wing judge instead of an activist left wing judge. Maybe this woman will just be a normal person doing her job as a justice. Or maybe not. The hearings will tell the story. EGBH .. ------------------------------ From: "Andrew Murawa" Subject: Re: I tried to grow a beard Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 11:46:59 -0700 "Jerry Lobrowski" wrote in message news:1128209911.563895.216210@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > So I could look like my hero Jerry Garcia when I start my Grateful > Dead > tribute band. But my face felt hot and tight so I gave up and shaved > so > I could be more comfortable. I know a guy who works as a shopping mall > Santa. I will see if he will let me use his. Has anyone here ever > grown > a beard? I've had a beard since I was about 14... It sure beats shaving... I generally trim it back about once a year, whenever I get sick of it, usually one of the really hot days of summer, but I actually made it through summer without cutting my beard, so I should have a pretty bushy bird's nest by next summer... ------------------------------ From: "Andrew Murawa" Subject: Re: I tried to grow a beard Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 11:49:59 -0700 "The Lord of Eltingville" wrote in message news:dhoqv00101@news3.newsguy.com... > Spider Dawg wrote: >> >> On 2005-10-02, Tom Beck wrote: >> > cj wrote: >> >> i gottoa goatee and i hate the hot weather. goatees enough. >> >> comfort rules >> >> 75 degrees and zip humidity >> >> cj >> > >> > >> > Try Mexico or CA. About 40% of the >> > Gringos down there wear beards and it's >> > a lot hotter than you just mentioned. >> > >> Tom >> >> I know cj and I think he's lived just about everywhere. We're both in >> southern mich now and I agree the weather lately has been perfect. >> >> I think I hate the heat even more than he does, but I wear a full >> beard all >> year, only shaving my neck and trimming the beard in summer. >> >> cj, admit it, the only reason you wear a goatee is because you just >> c'aint grow a real beard! > > *heh* That's the reason my father's always had a goatee. Nothing but > peachfuzz on the sides. I think it bugged him for a while that I was > able to get a full beard by the time I was about 17. > > Beards don't bother me in the summer...but I did learn a very valuable > lesson about having a full beard during summer months...don't shave it > off in July or August. You'll spend a day or two looking weird with a > neon white chin at the bottom of your face....followed by one of the > most annoying sunburns you've ever had. > > I'm not one for designer facial hair. I see a lot of young guys with > these intricately trimmed lines of "beard" running along the jawline > to > their chin, where they branch out into all manner of silly shapes. > They > must spend a ridiculaous amount of time in the morning making sure > everything's trimmed and shaped properly. > > I started wearing a beard out of laziness. It's much easier to > occasionally hit it with an electric trimmer during the warmer > months - > and just letting it grow from ~Oct thru ~May - than it is to drag a > razor across my face every morning. No thanks. > > Now, when I get the urge to shave it off every four or five years, it > feels weird enough that I let it start growing in again w/in a few > days. It's been almost ten years since I went w/out a mustache. I > can't imagine ever shaving that off again. That's just too strange a > sensation. See, I'll shave (or at least trim up) my mustache on a regular basis, if only so I can eat burritos and ribs and um, other things... There's nothing worse than eating a nice hoagie and getting mustard all over the 'stache... (hmmmm, something in there sounds dirtier than it needed to, but for the life of me I can't quite figure out what it is....) ------------------------------ From: "Dave Kelly" Subject: Re: Janis Joplin - 35 years gone Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 19:03:28 GMT "mizshely" wrote in message news:1128449319.221376.198460@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... >I remember being at Winterland seeing the Dead when we got the news, > backstage, that Janis had died. Bobby Weir said something about her > being buried "six feet under..." and alluding to the fact that she was > so earthy, she would not want to be cremated. But she was cremated and > scattered in Marin. And there was a HELL of a party at the Lion's > Share, paid for by Janis. Same Lion's Share, by the way, Joe, that was > owned by Michael Hunt who sometimes plays with David Nelson (and no > more jokes about the name, please!). * Where on gods green earth did you read this?...a movie magazine? ( insert little winky emotocon ) Sweet-Wink ------------------------------ From: "Rogues Island's finest" Subject: Re: Views from a Yoga Mat Vol. 1 Date: 4 Oct 2005 12:03:57 -0700 Dave Kelly 2000 wrote: > Just got back from "class"...Can ANYONE tell me > where I can find this "Bickram" punk?....turn the HEAT > down motherfucker!....and where the HELL were all > the hot chicks?...this was a straight up sausage fest! > Feel me. > Goddamn! > > Matsyasana Sweetbac How the hell did you fit Ajax on the mat? Chevasina! My classes have at least a 2-1 hottie to sausage ratio. Sometimes it's good not to live in San Francisco. Mark ------------------------------ From: "Ray" Subject: Re: Bushie is a piece of shit... Date: 4 Oct 2005 12:05:37 -0700 Everybody's Gonna Be Happy wrote: > "Ray" wrote: > > Thanks for the source for Leahy. Two prominent Democratic senators > > (one Minority Leader, the other the ranking Dem on the Judiciary > > Committee) is still not the same as "The Democrats" requesting that > > Bush nominate a non-judge, however. > > Oh please. > > The Top Democrat in the Senate and the Top Democrat on the committee that > matters asked for a non-judge. Of course that doesn't mean every single > congressional Democrat, it means the most important ones that consulted with > the president on the potential nominee. > > The Democrats asked for a non-judge. Reid, the Top Democrat in the Senate, is anti-choice. Does that mean that "The Democrats" are anti-choice? Of course not. The Top Democrat in the Senate and the Top Democrat on the committee that matters asked for a non-judge - we agree on that. > >> The fact is nobody has any idea about this woman. > > > Bush and Cheney have worked with her for years - they must have at > > least *some* idea of her judicial philosophy. > > They don't seem to know much else................ And you know this... how? Of course Bush and Cheney are going to keep any specific info they have under wraps until after the hearings, if even then, and will only divulge as much as they have to to keep the right mollified. > This is the best the Dems could hope for. Under this administration, agreed. Which is why I predict, barring any major surprises, that she'll be confirmed. > > Agreed (unless major surprises get uncovered during the background > > check). > > Maybe she smoked weed with Jerry Garcia. That might do it, dunno. > >> The interest groups on both sides are in a frenzy because they have > >> nothing > >> to campaign about for or against. > > > There are emerging indications that she's anti-choice: a declaration by > > her former campaign manager ("She is on the extreme end of the > > anti-choice movement"), and giving money to an anti-abortion group. > > I read that pro-life thing; this person heard her make one comment and then > classified her as an "extremist". The "extreme" quote, as reported in the Dallas Morning News, is in reference to a discussion, not a "comment": __________________________________________ "She is on the extreme end of the anti-choice movement," said Lorlee Bartos, who managed Ms. Miers' first and only political campaign and said they discussed abortion once during the race. "I think Harriet's belief was pretty strongly felt," Ms. Bartos said Monday. "I suspect she is of the same cloth as the president." ... Ms. Bartos said Ms. Miers was supportive of abortion rights in her youth. She said Ms. Miers then underwent "a born-again, profound experience" that caused her to oppose abortion. __________________________________________ http://www.dallasnews.com/s/dws/news/nation/stories/100405dnnatabortion.d644831.html Is this, along with the fact that she gave money to an anti-choice organization, proof that Meirs is today, anti-choice? Of course not. But it is an indication of such. > I don't doubt she's against abortion, > most people are, its hardly an unusual position to take. Most people may be anti-abortion, but most people are also pro-choice - not anti-choice. > IF (if if if) this woman is just some normal conservative who doesn't like > abortion that's the best anyone could have hoped for considering who gets to > make the nominations. Again agreed. > The right always says they don't anyone > who "legislates from the bench", when in fact that's exactly what they want. > They want an activist right wing judge instead of an activist left wing > judge. Agreed. > Maybe this woman will just be a normal person doing her job as a > justice. > > Or maybe not. Agreed. > The hearings will tell the story. I think you're too optimistic on that one. Ray ------------------------------ From: "neurodancer" Subject: Re: Marshall Tucker Band Rules! Date: 4 Oct 2005 12:08:07 -0700 Seth Jackson wrote: > On 2 Oct 2005 09:12:41 -0700, "Brett" > wrote: > > >I have so many great memories about Tucker and their music. > > > >Did anyone else here have the pleasure of seeing Marshall Tucker live > >in concert? > > They opened for the Dead and NRPS at Englishtown on 9/3/77. I don't > recall much about their set. Along with the Dead, Traffic & Steely Dan, they were about the hottest thing going in high school. Saw them at Boston Garden, great show but that fantastic bass solo on "24 Hours at a Time" was all distorted. Oh well.. Anyone know how Toy Caldwell died? ND ------------------------------ From: "Rogues Island's finest" Subject: Re: gdead Date: 4 Oct 2005 12:10:39 -0700 leftie wrote: > bossgobbler wrote: > > The only thing worse than wading though tour scum to see a gig is wading > > though all the polical commentary in this so called Dead newsgroup. > > rec.music.gdead was soooo much better 15 years ago...Shut up and talk > > about the tunes...I don't remember Jerry running his mouth about politics > > endlessly. Go to "I hate Bush" or "I hate Republicans" or "Liberals ARE > > open minded, really". I'm sure they exist somewhere. > > The exit door is down the hall to the left. Dude, it's locked! Mark ------------------------------ From: "neurodancer" Subject: Re: gdead Date: 4 Oct 2005 12:11:00 -0700 bossgobbler wrote: > The only thing worse than wading though tour scum to see a gig is wading > though all the polical commentary in this so called Dead newsgroup. > rec.music.gdead was soooo much better 15 years ago...Shut up and talk > about the tunes...I don't remember Jerry running his mouth about politics > endlessly. Go to "I hate Bush" or "I hate Republicans" or "Liberals ARE > open minded, really". I'm sure they exist somewhere. Well you could contribute something positive to this group or you could go fuck yourself with a telephone pole. ND ------------------------------ From: Seth Jackson Subject: Re: Baseball playoffs: don't get me started! (NDC) Reply-To: hitmeister .at. mindspring .dot. com Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 19:14:08 GMT On Tue, 04 Oct 2005 16:34:07 GMT, "Roxanne McDaniel" wrote: >White Sox! White Sox! White Sox! If I were color blind, I wouldn't know which pair of Sox to root for! If the Red Sox could break their curse last year, might this year be the White Sox' turn? ------------------------------ From: Seth Jackson Subject: Re: gdead Reply-To: hitmeister .at. mindspring .dot. com Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 19:18:56 GMT On Tue, 04 Oct 2005 11:37:56 -0400, "bossgobbler" wrote: >The only thing worse than wading though tour scum to see a gig is wading >though all the polical commentary in this so called Dead newsgroup. >rec.music.gdead was soooo much better 15 years ago... Of course, the Grateful Dead actually *existed* 15 years ago. Think that might have anything to do with it? Duh! >Shut up and talk >about the tunes...I don't remember Jerry running his mouth about politics >endlessly. Go to "I hate Bush" or "I hate Republicans" or "Liberals ARE >open minded, really". I'm sure they exist somewhere. 1734 Usenet cops suck. ------------------------------ From: "pookietooth" Subject: Re: I tried to grow a beard Date: 4 Oct 2005 12:21:37 -0700 Andrew Murawa wrote: > > See, I'll shave (or at least trim up) my mustache on a regular basis, if > only so I can eat burritos and ribs and um, other things... There's > nothing worse than eating a nice hoagie and getting mustard all over the > 'stache... (hmmmm, something in there sounds dirtier than it needed to, > but for the life of me I can't quite figure out what it is....) Thanks for that image, and right around lunchtime too! Now I've got pictures of Chewbacca gobbling a footlong swirling in my head. I wish they made a mouthwash I could use on my brain. ------------------------------ From: JC Martin Subject: Re: Bushie is a piece of shit... Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 19:22:49 GMT Everybody's Gonna Be Happy wrote: > "Ray" wrote in message > news:1128446932.608723.271240@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > >>Everybody's Gonna Be Happy wrote: >> >>>The Democrats asked that Bush consider nominating someone outside of the >>>usual suspects, someone who is not a judge. That's who he nominated. > > >>Reid recommended to Bush that Miers be considered, but it's not clear >>me that "The Democrats" asked that Bush nominate a non-judge. I'm not >>saying that isn't the case, or whether it's good or bad, but aside from >>Reid's recommendation and your declaration that Leahy recommended that >>a non-judge be nominated (which I also haven't read anywhere else - >>source?), I haven't read as much. Can you elaborate? Thanks. > > > As usual, my source is C-Span. Leahy, Spector and a couple other senators > were outside the White House after meeting with Bush about who he might > nominate. Leahy said he once again brought up his long held idea that > someone who was not a judge be nominated. Spector said he did the same. > When asked Bush's reaction, Leahy said Bush smiled (smirked) but that was > it. He said he didn't hold out much hope after getting that reaction, but > he got what he asked for anyway. > > Leahy has been saying this for years in the Judiciary Commitee; that he > wanted a president to nominate somebody other than a judge. > > >>>She could be horrible, but no one really knows. She could be great. > > >>True. Though the fact that she's a longtime Bush loyalist who >>reportedly declared that he's the most brilliant man she'd ever met >>isn't promising - regardless of whether that's because she's a >>sycophant or because she really needs to read and get out more often >>(or both). >> >>And neither is the fact that Cheney made a call to the Rush Limbaugh >>show yesterday (thus also demonstrating that Rush is still a major >>player in Republican circles) and made the following declarations: >> >>CHENEY: I'm confidant that she has a conservative judicial philosophy >>that you would be comfortable with, Rush. I've worked closely with >>Harriet for five years. I've seen her and worked closely with her ... >> >>LIMBAUGH: [P]eople think they [Democrats] are ripe to be buried, Mr. >>Vice President. >> >>CHENEY: Well, we're working on it. You'll be proud of Harriet's record, >>Rush. Trust me. > > > Since Cheney can't be trusted as far as you can throw a pacemaker, I > wouldn't be too thrilled if I was Limbaugh. > > The fact is nobody has any idea about this woman. The right is mightily > pissed because there were so many obvious right wingers that could have been > nominated. She even contributed money to Al Gore, Lloyd Bentsen, Both were known as conservative Democrats back in the 80's and both were on record as being pro-life. One of the reasons I can't stand Gore is that he's changed his positions far more often than even the average politician. -JC ------------------------------ From: JC Martin Subject: Re: Bushie is a piece of shit... Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 19:23:52 GMT Everybody's Gonna Be Happy wrote: > It all boils down to the hearings and what she says in response to > questions. Not really IMO. She'll just repeat the John Roberts formula...say nothing. -JC ------------------------------ From: "TNKEV" Subject: Re: gdead Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 14:22:14 -0500 Rogues Island's finest wrote: > leftie wrote: >> bossgobbler wrote: >>> The only thing worse than wading though tour scum to see a gig is wading >>> though all the polical commentary in this so called Dead newsgroup. >>> rec.music.gdead was soooo much better 15 years ago...Shut up and talk >>> about the tunes...I don't remember Jerry running his mouth about politics >>> endlessly. Go to "I hate Bush" or "I hate Republicans" or "Liberals ARE >>> open minded, really". I'm sure they exist somewhere. >> >> The exit door is down the hall to the left. > > Dude, it's locked! > > Mark Oh,thats just fucking grate,what if there is a damned fire?what are we supposed to do then? I bet Dave Kelly has the key!!! ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** The service addresses, to which questions about the list itself and requests to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, are as follows: Internet: dead-flames-request@gdead.berkeley.edu Bitnet: dead-flames-request%gdead.berkeley.edu@ucbcmsa Uucp: ...!{ucbvax,uunet}!gdead.berkeley.edu!dead-flames-request You can send mail to the entire list (and rec.music.gdead) via one of these addresses: Internet: dead-flames@gdead.berkeley.edu Bitnet: dead-flames%gdead.berkeley.edu@ucbcmsa Uucp: ...!{ucbvax,uunet}!gdead.berkeley.edu!dead-flames End of Dead-Flames Digest ****************************** . 0