2000 From: Digestifier To: Subject: Dead-Flames Digest #513 Dead-Flames Digest #513, Volume #48 Thu, 6 Oct 05 13:00:01 PDT Contents: Re: New rackmount gear... (The Lord of Eltingville) Re: Bushie is a piece of shit... ("Ray") Re: Bushie is a piece of shit... ("Ray") Re: New rackmount gear... ("king88uy7") Re: NDC: Bonnie Raitt? ("imsjry") Re: Dead Dowqnload -- $12.75 for a single disc d/l??? ("imsjry") Re: 21 years ago - 10/6/84 (DB) Re: Network feud leads to Net blackout- why service to some sites and (The Lord of Eltingville) Re: Dead Dowqnload -- $12.75 for a single disc d/l??? ("Cozmik Charlie T") Re: archive.org? ("Dylanstubs") Re: Got Organic Milk? ("tim_ratdog") Re: Dead Dowqnload -- $12.75 for a single disc d/l??? (pbuzby2002@yahoo.com) Re: NDC: Bonnie Raitt? ("Richard Morris") Re: 9/21/72 B&P offer! (pbuzby2002@yahoo.com) Re: chantal up for adoption,limo busines is fycked up ("Big Butch Floppie Bwoy") Re: NDC: Bonnie Raitt? (wyeknot) Re: 9/21/72 B&P offer! ("Richard Morris") Re: I'm quitting my job.... ("Everybody's Gonna Be Happy") "Comes a Time" Jerry Tribute 9/24/05 available for download (AlanZoldan@gmail.com) Re: Better Sox win again... ("marklaw") Re: I'm quitting my job.... ("Dave Kelly") Re: Dead Dowqnload -- $12.75 for a single disc d/l??? ("jpsmith29") ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: The Lord of Eltingville Subject: Re: New rackmount gear... Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 14:11:48 -0400 The Iron Muffin wrote: > > Hey now, my freaky darlings. > > Those of you with musical proclivities will appreciate this: > > I have recently acquired a Lexicon MX200 digital reverb > and effects processor, and a Behringer Bass V-Amp Pro > is winging its way to me as I write this. They join my old > Midiverb 4 and my Fuhrman power conditioner in the rack. I found a cool eyeball sticker for my Firebird case... > My powers are growing with every passing moment! As is your electric bill. ;-> > Next on my list are a rackmount tuner and a rackmount > equalizer. I am looking at the dbx 231 equalizer, and > the Korg DTR-2000 tuner. Anybody have experience > with these tools? They'll have to pry my Peterson Model 420 (http://www.petersontuners.com/images/bank/Model420.jpg) from my cold, dead fingers. They also makes rack-mount strobe tuners for you hi-tech guys: http://www.petersontuners.com/products/modelr490 http://www.petersontuners.com/products/modelr590 ------------------------------ From: "Ray" Subject: Re: Bushie is a piece of shit... Date: 6 Oct 2005 11:37:35 -0700 Everybody's Gonna Be Happy wrote: > >> The Founders were far more vicious and personal in their attacks and > >> campaigns against each others' very existence than the comparatively tame > >> and polite politics of today, > > > At the politican level I agree. However on the non-politican level I > > think the propaganda and rhetoric is as vicious today as it's ever > > been. > > Instead of being actual men and saying all those horrible things themselves, > our current batch of mental midgets use surrogates to do their dirty deeds. > > It had more punch when it came from some Founder using a Roman name; a name > everyone knew meant Hamilton, Jefferson, Clinton, Burr, Madison, Adams, etc. True, although the Founders also sometimes used surrogates to do their dirty work. Consider Jefferson's use of muckraker James Calender to attack Adams and Hamilton, and then lying about doing so. (Which came back to bite him in a big way: After becoming president, Jefferson refused to accomodate Calender's request for money and to be appointed a postmaster. When Jefferson responded with only $50 and no appointment, Calendar switched political allegiences and most notably outed Jefferson's involvement with his 3/4ths white, and probaly half-sister of his deceased wife, slave Sally Hemings.) > > Yeah - unlike today's major political leaders, the major political > > leaders of the Founding era were true statesmen. (With some > > expections, for example Burr.) > > And Clinton, the first parochial local political baron with national > influence. Yup. > > That said I don't see Kerry, or any other major Democratic figure, on > > the same political hardball level as Bush, or rather on the same level > > as Rove and DeLay. Rove and DeLay (and others) play political hardball > > in a way that the Dems don't, and I think that's part of the Dems' > > problem (in terms of losing elections) - at the national political > > level, not even Democratic pit bulls (relatively speaking) like Dean > > have the stomach to go that low (and, in DeLay's case, that flagrantly > > illegal). YMMV. > > Instead of being consistent in their attacks over the course of decades, > pounding the American psyche with buzzwords and catch phrases until they are > accepted as universal truth, they hit and run, shifting from one minor > scandal to another. Not to mention that they will never be as organized as > the Republicans, mainly because they don't all agree on everything like > Republicans do. Agreed. However IMO when the Dems "hit and run" (at the national level) they usually do so with more substantial basis than the Repubs - compare, say, the Dems attacks on DeLay's ethics vs. the Repubs attacks on Kerry's Vietnam war record. > Gross generalization: Democrats attack individuals, Republicans attack a > philosophy (one they themselves mostly created as their opposition). I don't see that - in my view Dems attack the Republican philosophy, and the Repubs attack individuals (Kerry, and Clintons Bill and Hillary, anyone?), about as equally as the other way around. Ray ------------------------------ From: "Ray" Subject: Re: Bushie is a piece of shit... Date: 6 Oct 2005 11:41:35 -0700 RickNBarbInSD wrote: > Ray wrote: > > Rove and DeLay (and others) play political hardball > > in a way that the Dems don't, > > Ray > > > Oh, do you mean dirty, crooked, unprincipled, immoral, unscrupulous, > dishonorable, corrupt, and unethical?!?!?! ;D Generally speaking, yes. Which isn't to say that Dems can't be all of those things and more as well, but Rove and DeLay take it to the next level. Ray ------------------------------ From: "king88uy7" Subject: Re: New rackmount gear... Date: 6 Oct 2005 11:42:01 -0700 You can play like every Def Leppard tune ever with that gear. Sick! ------------------------------ From: "imsjry" Subject: Re: NDC: Bonnie Raitt? Date: 6 Oct 2005 11:55:51 -0700 I like Bertha. wrote: > My wife and I are going to see her next weekend. Turing Stone Casino, > Verona, NY. Tickets were a gift. (yeah!) > > I hear she's pretty cool.. What can we expect? Has anyone here ever > seen her... lately? > Based on a show I saw of her's a few years ago, she is great live. She's the real deal and her last two discs are so underrated it's sick. ------------------------------ From: "imsjry" Subject: Re: Dead Dowqnload -- $12.75 for a single disc d/l??? Date: 6 Oct 2005 11:57:17 -0700 DB wrote: > They have got to be kidding, right? $12.75 in FLAC format for the > newest release and it is only one disc! I know 3/17/68 is not in > circulation and looks like it has a good set list: > > 1. Turn On Your Lovelight (Scott, Malone) > 2. That's It For The Other One > > Cryptical Envelopment > (Garcia) > The Other One > (Weir, Kreutzmann) > Cryptical Envelopment (Garcia) > 3. New Potato Caboose > (Lesh Peterson) > 4. China Cat Sunflower > (Garcia, Hunter) > 5. The Eleven > (Lesh, Hunter) > 6. Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks) > (Grateful Dead) > 7. Feedback Grateful Dead) This show is worth it at twice the price! ------------------------------ From: DB Subject: Re: 21 years ago - 10/6/84 Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 15:02:15 -0400 pantagruel wrote: > LP wrote: > >> One of my favorite Scarlet B.-> Fire on the Mt. of all time. >> Richmond VA - a typical coliseum with a special affinity for Phil's >> bass bombs. The show had typical '84 character - some difficult vocals >> for Garcia, but also some FIERY interludes by the band as a whole. >> This Scarlet has one of the most RIPPIN' guitar solos Jerry ever gave >> to this song. The drummers were playing double-time steam-train >> chugging rythym throughout the entire song. And the Fire was lond and >> luxurious with plenty of Mutron from JG. >> >> It's a good one, even a '70s zealot might think it doesn't suck. >> >> LP >> > > Best . . . Scarlet/Fire . . . ever . . . Would someone plesae send this person 9/2/78 (Giant's Stadium), 11/1/79 (Nassau), 4/3/82 Norfolk, Va., 6/18/83 (SPAC) and/or 6/16/85 (Greek) and have him get back to us. DB ------------------------------ From: The Lord of Eltingville Subject: Re: Network feud leads to Net blackout- why service to some sites and Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 14:44:40 -0400 gnome wrote: > > Network feud leads to Net blackout > Two major Internet backbone companies are feuding, potentially cutting off > significant swaths of the Internet for some of each other's customers. > http://news.com.com/Network%20feud%20leads%20to%20Net%20blackout/2100-1038_3-5889592.html?part=rss&tag=5889592&subj=news This isn't anything new. When I worked for Genuity/GTE Innternetworking/BBN Planet (now owned by Level 3) we changed/discontinued peering agreements every now and then. Short periods of mayhem and thousands of "my internet's not working" message ensued, then things got resolved and all was well again. All things shall pass, as will this... ------------------------------ From: "Cozmik Charlie T" Subject: Re: Dead Dowqnload -- $12.75 for a single disc d/l??? Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 12:13:10 -0700 "imsjry" wrote in message news:1128625037.572908.295170@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > > DB wrote: > > They have got to be kidding, right? $12.75 in FLAC format for the > > newest release and it is only one disc! I know 3/17/68 is not in > > circulation and looks like it has a good set list: > > > > 1. Turn On Your Lovelight (Scott, Malone) > > 2. That's It For The Other One > > > Cryptical Envelopment > (Garcia) > > The Other One > (Weir, Kreutzmann) > > Cryptical Envelopment (Garcia) > > 3. New Potato Caboose > (Lesh Peterson) > > 4. China Cat Sunflower > (Garcia, Hunter) > > 5. The Eleven > (Lesh, Hunter) > > 6. Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks) > (Grateful Dead) > > 7. Feedback Grateful Dead) > > This show is worth it at twice the price! > Why? ------------------------------ From: "Dylanstubs" Subject: Re: archive.org? Date: 6 Oct 2005 12:18:25 -0700 No problem connecting around 3:15 pm eastern standard time. Try clearing out your browser cache and make sure the settings are set to "every visit to the page". ------------------------------ From: "tim_ratdog" Subject: Re: Got Organic Milk? Date: 6 Oct 2005 12:21:54 -0700 Roxanne McDaniel wrote: > Maybe not.... > http://dragonflymedia.com/portal/2005/09/organicmilk.html Hey now! Realize that this is targeted directly at Horizon which is a huge company that has gobbled up lots of organic bits and peices. Meanwhile there are many alternatives provided by local area organic milk producers and vendors. I'd hate to see Horizon impact the family dairy farmers (besides their already damaging false milk prices based on their organic factory farms). It is totally unfair to lump all organic dairy producers and their co-ops into this bucket, so maybe "Got Horizon Organic Milk" might be a better title. -tim ------------------------------ From: pbuzby2002@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Dead Dowqnload -- $12.75 for a single disc d/l??? Date: 6 Oct 2005 12:23:32 -0700 besht2003 wrote: > It's worth it. Very interesting performance. Less spacey than I > expected--stronger. GDM is a business. I would be surprised if the guys > running it are not the remaining band members. A businesslike move for GDM would be to check out the competition, such as livephish.com, which charges $12.95 for a two-set, three-disc show in FLAC. It's surprising since the Dick's Picks series has always been very reasonably priced. That said, I might yield to the temptation of this '68 download. Pat Buzby Chicago, IL ------------------------------ From: "Richard Morris" Subject: Re: NDC: Bonnie Raitt? Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 12:24:27 -0700 "imsjry" wrote in message news:1128624951.782894.185220@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > I like Bertha. wrote: >> My wife and I are going to see her next weekend. Turing Stone Casino, >> Verona, NY. Tickets were a gift. (yeah!) >> >> I hear she's pretty cool.. What can we expect? Has anyone here ever >> seen her... lately? >> > > > Based on a show I saw of her's a few years ago, she is great live. > She's the real deal and her last two discs are so underrated it's sick. > Now just wait a minute here ... Did you get JC Martin's approval to enjoy her performance? I mean she *is* white ... and female! Trying to play the blues. Imagine that. You probably only *thought* you enjoyed it. *LOL* Everybody knows that only old black men who have suffered in life can play the blues. Right, JC? R. Oh ... did I forget to say, *LOL*? ------------------------------ From: pbuzby2002@yahoo.com Subject: Re: 9/21/72 B&P offer! Date: 6 Oct 2005 12:25:56 -0700 mjd wrote: > Never knew about Phil shooting this one down in the early days of DPs - > that is really strange and puzzling... Phil, like the other band members, has a perspective on his past performances which most fans would find strange and puzzling. If he did shoot down this show (I've read that he shot down 2/19/71 and 6/23/74, as well as insisting on having his bass solo edited out of DP1), it was probably because his harmony vocal on one song was out of tune or something like that. Pat Buzby Chicago, IL ------------------------------ From: "Big Butch Floppie Bwoy" Crossposted-To: soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.turkish,talk.politics.european-union Subject: Re: chantal up for adoption,limo busines is fycked up Date: 6 Oct 2005 12:29:12 -0700 Dumb Rrrrromaneshti bitch I AM BRITISH you fucking yeeftos dog ! Seanie Rutledge is a BRITISH NAME I PWN U DUMB "Nazi Turk" VLACH ! ------------------------------ From: wyeknot Subject: Re: NDC: Bonnie Raitt? Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 15:30:11 -0400 Richard Morris wrote: > "imsjry" wrote in message >>Based on a show I saw of her's a few years ago, she is great live. >>She's the real deal and her last two discs are so underrated it's sick. > > Now just wait a minute here ... > > Did you get JC Martin's approval to enjoy her performance? Ummm, you don't need his approval if you have the proper credentials. :-) Matt ------------------------------ From: "Richard Morris" Subject: Re: 9/21/72 B&P offer! Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 12:32:15 -0700 wrote in message news:1128626756.487757.128720@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > > mjd wrote: > >> Never knew about Phil shooting this one down in the early days of DPs - >> that is really strange and puzzling... > > Phil, like the other band members, has a perspective on his past > performances which most fans would find strange and puzzling. If he > did shoot down this show (I've read that he shot down 2/19/71 and > 6/23/74, as well as insisting on having his bass solo edited out of > DP1), it wa 12a7 s probably because his harmony vocal on one song was out of > tune or something like that. Well shit! If that was what was troubling him, then they would have to clean out about half of the archive--everything that he sings on! I wonder to what extent these guys are clued in with respect to what the average deadhead or newsgroup denizen thinks about gathering up the shows, and how much they have heard of the bands play through the years. Jeez, I think all of us have suffered through poor performances both live, and on tape, and have heard all of the guys blow a solo, song, or gig. Do they not know that? And this is the guy that mixed "Steal Your Face". ------------------------------ From: "Everybody's Gonna Be Happy" Subject: Re: I'm quitting my job.... Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 12:34:45 -0700 "RickNBarbInSD" wrote in message news:1128621298.675949.147060@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > webmaster.opr@gmail.com wrote: >> band beyond description wrote: >> > "Ben" wrote in message >> > news:qum9k11fsjv2dtd7am9a9jg4ov9tgp6csu@4ax.com... >> > > I've been criticized for bitching about my job here before, but I'm >> > > finally quitting it. >> > > >> > > I'm sort of counting my chickens before they hatch, but I believe >> > > I'll >> > > get this one with no major problems and when I do, I'll get an >> > > effective salary increase of up to 66%. >> > > >> > > All I can say is 'fuck yeah' and 'fuck you' to my current boss. >> > > >> > > Plus, with this new job, I'll be about an hour away from Red Rocks. >> > > >> > > How's that for a fringe benefit? >> > >> > though I'm sure it's tempting, just don't literally "burn your bridges" >> > like >> > Homer Simpson! Woo-hoo!! "In your face, Burns!" >> > -- >> > Peace, >> > ~ Steve >> >> My thoughts exactly. No matter how much I hated my boss, his boss or >> another co-worker I've never burned a bridge. You just never know if >> you'll run into to this guy or a friend of his again. >> >> Let me ask you one question. Will the new job want to call and verify >> your employment at the old one? > > > > They are RYK. Nothing really to be gained, and no telling the cost. C'mon you pansies, NOT burning bridges only matters if you're going to continue working in the same industry or community. If you're changing careers or moving away, flip the corporate tool that ruined your life the bird. I did. It was amazingly satisfying. Not to mention telling him everyone thought he was a complete buffoon. Of course he already knew that......... EGBH ------------------------------ From: AlanZoldan@gmail.com Subject: "Comes a Time" Jerry Tribute 9/24/05 available for download Date: 6 Oct 2005 12:34:54 -0700 Right here: http://web1.nugs.net/attics/cat050924.asp Just my way of thanking the group for sending a rather hefty stack of CDs my way. Ya can't be planting ice, no no ;>) ------------------------------ From: "marklaw" Subject: Re: Better Sox win again... Date: 6 Oct 2005 12:42:50 -0700 >Was that Bill Buckner out there at second base for the Redhose? < Looked more like Leon Durham ------------------------------ From: "Dave Kelly" Subject: Re: I'm quitting my job.... Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 19:42:34 GMT I also just quit my job...I was a porta pottie attendant at music festivals & street faires here in Detroit..... I would done black face and offer fresh towels and condoms to the festival goers...the occasional shoe shine would also pop off...have you ever tried to shine Birkenstocks Thas a LOT of work. Slappy Sweetbac ------------------------------ From: "jpsmith29" Subject: Re: Dead Dowqnload -- $12.75 for a single disc d/l??? Date: 6 Oct 2005 12:47:57 -0700 agree with all the pricing complaints, but this IS a great partial-show. ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** The service addresses, to which questions about the list itself and requests to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, are as follows: Internet: dead-flames-request@gdead.berkeley.edu Bitnet: dead-flames-request%gdead.berkeley.edu@ucbcmsa Uucp: ...!{ucbvax,uunet}!gdead.berkeley.edu!dead-flames-request You can send mail to the entire list (and rec.music.gdead) via one of these addresses: Internet: dead-flames@gdead.berkeley.edu Bitnet: dead-flames%gdead.berkeley.edu@ucbcmsa Uucp: ...!{ucbvax,uunet}!gdead.berkeley.edu!dead-flames End of Dead-Flames Digest ****************************** . 0