2000 From: Digestifier To: Subject: Dead-Flames Digest #539 Dead-Flames Digest #539, Volume #48 Sun, 9 Oct 05 19:00:02 PDT Contents: Re: Off Topic: Now in paperback for the first time (Tim Donohoe) Re: Release 11/70 Portchester Run as Dick's Picks or Download? (JimK) Re: Watchya Listenin' To Lately? (Steve Lenier) Re: Release 11/70 Portchester Run as Dick's Picks or Download? (pbuzby2002@yahoo.com) Re: Beer query (kpnnews@yahoo.com) The Master vs. Predator ("Sean Baker") Pigpen... ("Steve Terry") Re: The Master vs. Predator ("Steve Terry") Re: Off Topic: Now in paperback for the first time (marc_catone@yahoo.com) Re: Pigpen... ("ck") charlie miller SBD downloads 8/30,31/81 ("3three3") THE BAND 10/28/83 audio vine link ("3three3") Re: Pigpen... (Tom Beck) Re: Watchya Listenin' To Lately? ("Steve Terry") Re: charlie miller SBD downloads 8/30,31/81 ("3three3") Re: Pigpen... (Tom Beck) Re: The Master vs. Predator ("Dave Kelly") Re: Beer query (joker4153@comcast.net) Re: charlie miller SBD downloads 8/30,31/81 ("3three3") Re: Release 11/70 Portchester Run as Dick's Picks or Download? ("Richard Morris") Re: Beer query (Tom Beck) Re: Beer query ("Steve Terry") Re: Beer query ("judybat") Re: charlie miller SBD downloads 8/30,31/81 ("Bzl.") Re: Pigpen... (Michael Black) Re: Pigpen... (joker4153@comcast.net) Re: Pigpen... (mrose101) Re: The Master vs. Predator (joker4153@comcast.net) Dead Can Dance at Radio City 10-8-05 ("seraphim") Re: Pigpen... ("Richard Morris") And this archive message means what? ("Richard Morris") Re: Pigpen... ("The Iron Muffin") ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim Donohoe Subject: Re: Off Topic: Now in paperback for the first time Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2005 23:51:08 GMT marc_catone@yahoo.com wrote: > Some of you may remember my book from the 1980s, "As I Write This > Letter: An American > Generation Remembers The Beatles", Sorry no, but I bet I can find any essay in your book for free on the web somewhere. Thanks for shilling your crap, but I'm not interested. ------------------------------ From: JimK Subject: Re: Release 11/70 Portchester Run as Dick's Picks or Download? Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2005 19:52:36 -0400 Reply-To: jkezwind@comcast.net On Sun, 9 Oct 2005 15:33:21 -0700, "Richard Morris" wrote: > > wrote in message >news:1128894969.781319.13280@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >> >> Sparky the Wonder Dog wrote: >>> No, that's November 7 and November 8 of 1970--not November of 77 and >>> 78. The band used to combine the Capitol and Fillmore East performances >>> into the same run of tours at the time. There are soundboards of >>> varying quality of shows then. >> >>>From a Dick Latvala interview in Dupree's Diamond News, winter '94: >> >> Q: We've heard rumors that the vault does not contain any of the >> legendary Capitol Theater shows from November 1970. >> >> A: Right. It's really sad, isn't it? > >What is the history on that, Pat? Were recordings not made, or were >recordings made that subsequently disappeared? > >R. > Hey, look at it this way; if there were recordings made, the shows wouldn't be legendary. JimK ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2005 16:57:58 -0700 Subject: Re: Watchya Listenin' To Lately? From: Steve Lenier in article di68t7$610$1@gargoyle.oit.duke.edu, naught@nil.com at naught@nil.com wrote on 10/7/05 9:48 AM: > In the regular rotation right now: > > Any of the early 70's Crusaders stuff. I sure wish they'd release the > original double live Best of the Crusaders, the one with Larry Carlton and > BOTH versions of So Far Away. I still have my vinyl copy, I could make you a tape ;) Steve ------------------------------ From: pbuzby2002@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Release 11/70 Portchester Run as Dick's Picks or Download? Date: 9 Oct 2005 17:02:12 -0700 pbuzby2002@yahoo.com wrote: > Richard Morris wrote: > > > What is the history on that, Pat? Were recordings not made, or were > > recordings made that subsequently disappeared? > > The story I've heard is that Bear was doing most of the band's live > recordings in '69/'70, and when he went to jail in July '70 no one > taped for a while. Looking through the Compendium a bit more, I see that although Bear says this, others, including Dick, think that tapes were made which never got into the vault or were stolen. In any case, if the GDM finds these 11/70 shows, I think they'd get released very quickly. People have been raving about 11/8 since before the Dick's Picks series started. Pat Buzby Chicago, IL ------------------------------ From: kpnnews@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Beer query Date: 9 Oct 2005 17:07:55 -0700 joker4153@comcast.net wrote: > But I digress. The query is: Is it possible that a brewer would add > sugars to a beer to avoid bitterness? > No more Peruvian products for this boy. No sir. Anything is possible. Hell, they make electric blue liquors these days. FYI: strawberry blond beer by Pete's ain't just referring to the color. I have had similar bad experiences. My latest sixpack(s) have been our local Top Of The Hill (Chapel Hill, NC) beer in a can (!). Micro-cans are all the rage. They are golfcourse friendly. Seriously, their canned IPA is really frickin' good. Kurt ------------------------------ From: "Sean Baker" Subject: The Master vs. Predator Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2005 19:19:42 -0500 Kimock n' Crew blew the roof offa the Park Wes' las' NITE. The orbiter took off in light speed immediatley. And the new changes to the on-board aliens: Mathis is just what the rythm section needed. This cat can groove, funk, bounce, hang, front, swing and jive with the best of 'em. But I still do not know who is more a master of their instrument, Kimock or Holmes. I have never seen anyone like this li'l devil. He can go from Art Blakey to Kieth Moon in a nanosecond and come right back to the POINT of departure ON TIME. His cymbal work is crisp, sticks are tight, pedal work unsurpasable and he knows just when to lay it on to rope all the muhfukkas back in. He don' miss a beat, in fact he inserts new ones. He's gotta be schizo with his multiple timings. The man's INSANE. Holmes an' Mathis were just tryin to fuk with one another all nite long. But Predator would give Mathis' ass a lil' whoppin' ever' now n' then just to remin' him who controls the SHIP. And the keys, Walter and the B3 is LONG overdue. HUGE sound now. Debs jus' loves a man that kin drive a B3. And the crew finally has someone who can solo AND play WITH the band. This cat has a sense of humor too. He was throwin' in sounds loud n' quick just to wake these space Monsters up. All of 'em just jamin' then Walter lays on the howlin' emotion right quick in an out take no prisioners like. Digital Soundboards will be gittin a ring from my folks at the Chuich fo' this sho' fo' sho' Consult yo' local BT un'ner groun' railroad affiliate very soon. But I still don' know who to lay the MONEY on. Master or Predator. Peace, Sean -- And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover. -Mark 16:17-18 My music list for trades: http://db.etree.org/fionarcb ------------------------------ From: "Steve Terry" Subject: Pigpen... Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2005 19:22:51 -0500 Maybe it's just me, but Pig's lengthy "raps" get rather boring pretty fast. Thank god the band is cookin' behind him otherwise I'd be snoozin. Don't 2000 get me wrong, I like his singing, Mr. Charlie, Hard to Handle, Easy Wind, for example. It's just those mindless ramblings during Lovelight and Good Lovin that lose me. Why do those songs have to be 20 minutes long? Am I in the minority? Am I missing something? Please enlighten me. ------------------------------ From: "Steve Terry" Subject: Re: The Master vs. Predator Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2005 19:24:57 -0500 "Sean Baker" wrote in message news:11kjct4im8jbjb4@news.supernews.com... > Kimock n' Crew blew the roof offa the Park Wes' las' NITE. > > The orbiter took off in light speed immediatley. > > And the new changes to the on-board aliens: > > Mathis is just what the rythm section needed. This cat can groove, funk, > bounce, hang, front, swing and jive with the best of 'em. > > But I still do not know who is more a master of their instrument, Kimock > or Holmes. > > I have never seen anyone like this li'l devil. He can go from Art Blakey > to Kieth Moon in a nanosecond and come right back to the POINT of > departure ON TIME. His cymbal work is crisp, sticks are tight, pedal work > unsurpasable and he knows just when to lay it on to rope all the muhfukkas > back in. He don' miss a beat, in fact he inserts new ones. He's gotta be > schizo with his multiple timings. The man's INSANE. > > Holmes an' Mathis were just tryin to fuk with one another all nite long. > But Predator would give Mathis' ass a lil' whoppin' ever' now n' then just > to remin' him who controls the SHIP. > > And the keys, Walter and the B3 is LONG overdue. HUGE sound now. Debs > jus' loves a man that kin drive a B3. And the crew finally has someone > who can solo AND play WITH the band. This cat has a sense of humor too. > He was throwin' in sounds loud n' quick just to wake these space Monsters > up. All of 'em just jamin' then Walter lays on the howlin' emotion right > quick in an out take no prisioners like. > > Digital Soundboards will be gittin a ring from my folks at the Chuich fo' > this sho' fo' sho' Consult yo' local BT un'ner groun' railroad affiliate > very soon. > > But I still don' know who to lay the MONEY on. Master or Predator. > > Peace, > > Sean Hey Sean, I didn't see ya there. I guess that's cause I wasn't there. The dog ate my... ------------------------------ From: marc_catone@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Off Topic: Now in paperback for the first time Date: 9 Oct 2005 17:29:55 -0700 Tim Donohoe wrote: > marc_catone@yahoo.com wrote: > > Some of you may remember my book from the 1980s, "As I Write This > > Letter: An American > > Generation Remembers The Beatles", > > Sorry no, but I bet I can find any essay in your book for free on the > web somewhere. Thanks for shilling your crap, but I'm not interested. Well...OK...but this is fiction, there aren't any essays. Marc ------------------------------ From: "ck" Subject: Re: Pigpen... Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2005 20:39:12 -0400 "Steve Terry" wrote in message news:diccf0$2qjo$1@news.iquest.net... > Maybe it's just me, but Pig's lengthy "raps" get rather boring pretty fast. > Thank god the band is cookin' behind him otherwise I'd be snoozin. Don't get > me wrong, I like his singing, Mr. Charlie, Hard to Handle, Easy Wind, for > example. It's just those mindless ramblings during Lovelight and Good Lovin > that lose me. Why do those songs have to be 20 minutes long? Am I in the > minority? Am I missing something? Please enlighten me. > > This is blasphemy Steve . Say twelve St. Stephens,listen to what's become of the baby at 11 and say Box Back Betty's to the next person you encounter for forgiveness. ------------------------------ From: "3three3" Subject: charlie miller SBD downloads 8/30,31/81 Date: 9 Oct 2005 17:46:06 -0700 heres a few great downloads i came across recently and thought id post a heads up take it easy ______________________________________ Grateful Dead 1981-08-30.sbd.miller.30118.sbeok.flacf tmnsp.net/details.php?id=903 Grateful Dead 1981-08-31.sbd.miller.30070.sbeok.flacf tmnsp.net/details.php?id=906 hendrix-first rays of the new rising sun.shnf tmnsp.net/details.php?id=890 _____________________________________ all of the downloads are here ~> tmnsp.net/browse.php ------------------------------ From: "3three3" Subject: THE BAND 10/28/83 audio vine link Date: 9 Oct 2005 17:52:33 -0700 i DLed this for a fellow philzoner....thought maybe some of you audio boneheads would want it heres a link to the AUDIO VINE ~~> http://www.philzone.org/discus/messages/7473/235288.html?1128832202 take it easy Rockin' 10/28/83 THE BAND Location: Buffalo, NY Central Train Terminal Source/Quality/Length: SB/EX/80 Note: w/Cates Bros Song list: 1.Rag Mama Rag 2.Long Black Veil 3.Shape I'm In 4.It Makes No Difference 5.Milk Cow Boogie 6.Mystery Train 7.King Harvest 8.Voo Doo Music 9.WS Walcott Med Show 10.You Don't Know Me 11.Stagefright 12.Caledonia 13.Genetic Method 14.Chestfever 15.Up On Cripple Creek 16.Java Blues 17.Rock N Roll Shoes 18.The Weight ------------------------------ From: Tom Beck Subject: Re: Pigpen... Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2005 20:00:39 -0500 Steve Terry wrote: > Maybe it's just me, but Pig's lengthy "raps" get rather boring pretty fast. > Thank god the band is cookin' behind him otherwise I'd be snoozin. Don't get > me wrong, I like his singing, Mr. Charlie, Hard to Handle, Easy Wind, for > example. It's just those mindless ramblings during Lovelight and Good Lovin > that lose me. Why do those songs have to be 20 minutes long? Am I in the > minority? Am I missing something? Please enlighten me. Try "Two Souls In Communion" and then tell us what you think. Hint: There's two slightly different versions. "Do you fix refrigerators? Do you repair windows?", "No. I drive a Cadillac, I'm in the commercial bidness.". Tom ------------------------------ From: "Steve Terry" Subject: Re: Watchya Listenin' To Lately? Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2005 19:55:18 -0500 "Steve Lenier" wrote in message: > I still have my vinyl copy, I could make you a tape ;) What's a tape? ------------------------------ From: "3three3" Subject: Re: charlie miller SBD downloads 8/30,31/81 Date: 9 Oct 2005 17:56:54 -0700 oops, here are the links so you dont have to copy & paste hendrix-first rays of the new rising sun.shnf http://tmnsp.net/details.php?id=890 Grateful Dead 1981-08-30.sbd.miller http://tmnsp.net/details.php?id=903 Grateful Dead 1981-08-31.sbd.miller http://tmnsp.net/details.php?id=906 ------------------------------ From: Tom Beck Subject: Re: Pigpen... Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2005 20:03:17 -0500 ck wrote: > "Steve Terry" wrote in message > news:diccf0$2qjo$1@news.iquest.net... > >>Maybe it's just me, but Pig's lengthy "raps" get rather boring pretty > > fast. > >>Thank god the band is cookin' behind him otherwise I'd be snoozin. Don't > > get > >>me wrong, I like his singing, Mr. Charlie, Hard to Handle, Easy Wind, for >>example. It's just those mindless ramblings during Lovelight and Good > > Lovin > >>that lose me. Why do those songs have to be 20 minutes long? Am I in the >>minority? Am I missing something? Please enlighten me. >> >> > > > This is blasphemy Steve . Say twelve St. Stephens,listen to what's become > of the baby at 11 and say Box Back Betty's to the next person you > encounter for forgiveness. > > I thought it was "box back nitties". which needs no explanation. To, ------------------------------ From: "Dave Kelly" Subject: Re: The Master vs. Predator Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 00:59:54 GMT 2000 You gotta selist for this barn burner, hotshot? Dig, Rev....have you peeped the dallas sbd? http://www.archive.org/audio/etree-details-db.php?id=29824 Goddamn is the band on FIRE! Anyways, is the chuich up for a NYE road trip? I hear Larry has room in the double-wide! Pull his coat. sweet-pants ------------------------------ From: joker4153@comcast.net Subject: Re: Beer query Date: 9 Oct 2005 18:02:09 -0700 Reminds me that the last time I was on the golf course, couple of weekends ago. As we swung around to the 10th tee, I made the mistake of getting a Guiness in a can. I know better, but it was that or Fosters-in-a-can. Guiness translates fairly well to a bottle, but once canned, it sucks. Larry ------------------------------ From: "3three3" Subject: Re: charlie miller SBD downloads 8/30,31/81 Date: 9 Oct 2005 18:02:14 -0700 oops, here are the links ~> 8/30/81 http://tmnsp.net/details.php?id=903 8/31/81 http://tmnsp.net/details.php?id=906 hendrix - 1st rays of new rising sun http://tmnsp.net/details.php?id=890 ------------------------------ From: "Richard Morris" Subject: Re: Release 11/70 Portchester Run as Dick's Picks or Download? Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2005 18:03:10 -0700 wrote in message news:1128897951.942121.244720@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... > > Richard Morris wrote: > >> What is the history on that, Pat? Were recordings not made, or were >> recordings made that subsequently disappeared? > > The story I've heard is that Bear was doing most of the band's live > recordings in '69/'70, and when he went to jail in July '70 no one > taped for a while. I think you have it right. A quick peak at a couple of books: Bear sez he er ah *left* in mid 1970 ... I think Healy was off working for Quicksilver by that time ... Bob Matthews had the board. I am not sure if Betty Cantor was on the scene yet. First Betty Board was not until 1971... R. ------------------------------ From: Tom Beck Subject: Re: Beer query Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2005 20:10:58 -0500 joker4153@comcast.net wrote: > Indian summer has finally landed in the Bay Area. A mild one, but still > pretty much the only summer weather since early June. > Anyway, I'm outside doing yard work, home repairs, and whatnot, when I > suddenly realize I've built up a thirst. Specifically, a beer thirst. > So I pop over to the local Mom & Pop, or more acurately, the local > Madre y Padre market/mercado. They don't carry any "micro" or "craft" > brews, but they have a decent selection of imports from Mexico and all > over South America. Brazilian pilsners, Costa Rican lagers along with > Mexico's answer to Coors, Cerveza Tecate. You get the picture, right? > So, a six-pack of Peruvian stuff catches my eye. Been quite a while > since I've had *anything* Peruvian, let alone beer. And, it's a dark > brew, to boot! I admit, I am a fool for a good porter or any dark ale. > So, home we go, my new Peruvian friends and I. > Then out to the back yard I go with my old blind cat and a cold, open > bottle of Malta Cusquena (stick one of these ~ over the n). First taste > is awfully sweet. Like drinking beer soda pop. Almost. Not what I > expected or wanted. I like that *bitter* to be there once a swig rolls > over the tongue and down the throat. In any amount, from an IPA bitter > to the gentler Guiness bitter. > Now, 3 b3eers into the sixer, it doesn;t taste so bad. Closer to the > mellow bitter of a stout. > But I digress. The query is: Is it possible that a brewer would add > sugars to a beer to avoid bitterness? > No more Peruvian products for this boy. No sir. > > Larry > Shit! In Mexico, CA and SA they'd add anything, including drain cleaner if they thought it would improve the salability of their product. Tom ------------------------------ From: "Steve Terry" Subject: Re: Beer query Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2005 20:09:45 -0500 wrote in message news:1128903295.664427.102890@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Reminds me that the last time I was on the golf course, couple of > weekends ago. As we swung around to the 10th tee, I made the mistake of > getting a Guiness in a can. I know better, but it was that or > Fosters-in-a-can. Guiness translates fairly well to a bottle, but once > canned, it sucks. > > Larry > I disagree. The cans have that widget thingy that releases the nitrogen. The secret is to pour it in a glass and drink it, not out of a can. ------------------------------ From: "judybat" Subject: Re: Beer query Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2005 21:13:57 -0400 Ahh, Top of the Hill. Had a great evening there drinking beers about 8 years ago. Got tanked, and then drove to Charlotte to crash... wrote in message news:1128902875.408993.289750@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > joker4153@comcast.net wrote: >> But I digress. The query is: Is it possible that a brewer would add >> sugars to a beer to avoid bitterness? >> No more Peruvian products for this boy. No sir. > > Anything is possible. Hell, they make electric blue liquors these > days. FYI: strawberry blond beer by Pete's ain't just referring to > the color. I have had similar bad experiences. My latest sixpack(s) > have been our local Top Of The Hill (Chapel Hill, NC) beer in a > can (!). Micro-cans are all the rage. They are golfcourse friendly. > Seriously, their canned IPA is really frickin' good. > > Kurt > ------------------------------ From: "Bzl." Subject: Re: charlie miller SBD downloads 8/30,31/81 Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2005 21:16:28 -0400 "3three3" wrote in message news:1128905166.653094.38750@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > heres a few great downloads i came across recently and thought id post > a heads up > take it easy > > ______________________________________ > > Grateful Dead 1981-08-30.sbd.miller.30118.sbeok.flacf > tmnsp.net/details.php?id=903 > > Grateful Dead 1981-08-31.sbd.miller.30070.sbeok.flacf > tmnsp.net/details.php?id=906 > > hendrix-first rays of the new rising sun.shnf > tmnsp.net/details.php?id=890 > _____________________________________ > > all of the downloads are here ~> > tmnsp.net/browse.php > Could someone kindly copy/paste the text of these? Thanks. ------------------------------ From: et472@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Michael Black) Subject: Re: Pigpen... Date: 10 Oct 2005 01:18:34 GMT Reply-To: et472@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Michael Black) "Steve Terry" (ruthanne@TAKE_OFFccrtc.com) writes: > Maybe it's just me, but Pig's lengthy "raps" get rather boring pretty fast. > Thank god the band is cookin' behind him otherwise I'd be snoozin. Don't get > me wrong, I like his singing, Mr. Charlie, Hard to Handle, Easy Wind, for > example. It's just those mindless ramblings during Lovelight and Good Lovin > that lose me. Why do those songs have to be 20 minutes long? Am I in the > minority? Am I missing something? Please enlighten me. > > Think of it as vocal improvisation, while the band was musically improvising behind him. Take one away, and you lose or drastically alter theother. Michael ------------------------------ From: joker4153@comcast.net Subject: Re: Pigpen... Date: 9 Oct 2005 18:27:10 -0700 Steve! Yea, Steve! You didn't come here to SIT DOWN, didja?! Now getchyo han's outta yer pockets and ask that little girl over there if she wants to... ------------------------------ From: mrose101 Subject: Re: Pigpen... Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 01:20:40 GMT Steve Terry wrote: >Maybe it's just me, but Pig's lengthy "raps" get rather boring pretty fast. >Thank god the band is cookin' behind him otherwise I'd be snoozin. Don't get >me wrong, I like his singing, Mr. Charlie, Hard to Handle, Easy Wind, for >example. It's just those mindless ramb 14fc lings during Lovelight and Good Lovin >that lose me. Why do those songs have to be 20 minutes long? Am I in the >minority? Am I missing something? Please enlighten me. > > > > like the old joke say...you hadda be there ------------------------------ From: joker4153@comcast.net Subject: Re: The Master vs. Predator Date: 9 Oct 2005 18:33:10 -0700 You any good with a shovel? If so, there's always room at Rancho San Pablo! (Bring boots and seat covers, I got everything else.) And did I not tell it here about Reed Mathis? Yes I did. Larry ------------------------------ From: "seraphim" Subject: Dead Can Dance at Radio City 10-8-05 Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 01:40:15 GMT Wow what a fuckin great show............I am still buzzed ------------------------------ From: "Richard Morris" Subject: Re: Pigpen... Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2005 18:52:27 -0700 "Steve Terry" wrote in message news:diccf0$2qjo$1@news.iquest.net... > Maybe it's just me, but Pig's lengthy "raps" get rather boring pretty > fast. Thank god the band is cookin' behind him otherwise I'd be snoozin. > Don't get me wrong, I like his singing, Mr. Charlie, Hard to Handle, Easy > Wind, for example. It's just those mindless ramblings during Lovelight and > Good Lovin that lose me. Why do those songs have to be 20 minutes long? Am > I in the minority? Am I missing something? Please enlighten me. Jeez ... we hafta put up with alla this *conservativism* in the newsgroup, now heresy rears its ugly head. Steve, Steve, Steve. When you are playing four hour shows, what is a 20 minute song? It is *nothing*. Actually, at the time I was not a huge huge fan of the extended snake jams around Pig. I loved the Dark Star and Other One trips that the band was taking at the time, and to an extent the Pig Pen interludes seemed like pandering. "Gimme some ass-kinking improvisation, not the Brooklyn Bridge!" However, looking back, and listening back, I don't think I appreciated the Pig spots as much as I could have. Maybe I am regressing in my old age, but a good, long Lovelight is extraordinarily satsifying to me now. And the benign humor in Pig's rants is golden stuff. R. ------------------------------ From: "Richard Morris" Subject: And this archive message means what? Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2005 18:55:58 -0700 Got this message on the archive, 12-12-72: "This show is currently unavailable for download because it cannot be located on our servers. We apologize for the inconvenience and hope to have access to this show restored as soon as possible." Should this message be taken at face value, or is it a precursor to something else--like a disappearing show? R. -- Drop "trousers" to respond via email. ------------------------------ Reply-To: "The Iron Muffin" From: "The Iron Muffin" Subject: Re: Pigpen... Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2005 22:06:08 -0400 Richard Morris wrote: > Steve Terry wrote: > > Maybe it's just me, but Pig's lengthy "raps" get rather boring pretty > > fast. Thank god the band is cookin' behind him otherwise I'd be snoozin. > > Don't get me wrong, I like his singing, Mr. Charlie, Hard to Handle, Easy > > Wind, for example. It's just those mindless ramblings during Lovelight and > > Good Lovin that lose me. Why do those songs have to be 20 minutes long? Am > > I in the minority? Am I missing something? Please enlighten me. > > Jeez ... we hafta put up with alla this *conservativism* in the newsgroup, > now heresy rears its ugly head. > > Steve, Steve, Steve. When you are playing four hour shows, what is a 20 > minute song? It is *nothing*. HRYK. > Actually, at the time I was not a huge huge fan of the extended snake jams > around Pig. I loved the Dark Star and Other One trips that the band was > taking at the time, and to an extent the Pig Pen interludes seemed like > pandering. "Gimme some ass-kinking improvisation, not the Brooklyn Bridge!" HRYK. > However, looking back, and listening back, I don't think I appreciated the > Pig spots as much as I could have. Maybe I am regressing in my old age, but > a good, long Lovelight is extraordinarily satsifying to me now. And the > benign humor in Pig's rants is golden stuff. HRYK. -- The Iron Muffin DEAD FREAKS UNITE Who are you? Where are you? 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