2000 From: Digestifier To: Subject: Dead-Flames Digest #611 Dead-Flames Digest #611, Volume #48 Wed, 19 Oct 05 05:00:01 PDT Contents: Re: Visiting San Francisco (Joe) Re: Bottle Brush must go... (DG) Re: drug tests for jobs (NDC) (Ben) Re: Police make dozens of arrests @ Rolling Stones concert. (Joe) Re: so...who owns a "hippy store" here? (The Lord of Eltingville) Re: Legion of Mary Permavine (The Lord of Eltingville) Re: For Camel Toe lovers ("band beyond description") Re: drug tests for jobs (NDC) ("band beyond description") Re: drug tests for jobs (NDC) ("band beyond description") NBA Players Now Must Adhere to Dress Code (NDC) ("band beyond description") Re: Woman countersues RIAA for fraud and deceptive business practices (NDC) ("pookietooth") Re: audio extraction questions (Gary & Ellie) Re: Are you working in the same field you majored in college? ("Rogues Island's finest") Re: Amazing Band for your wedding or party! ("chosney") ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joe Subject: Re: Visiting San Francisco Date: 19 Oct 2005 04:05:28 GMT Still in Mexico, but wrote to one of my regular concert going friends, and she told me that Jefferson Starship are playing on the 29th at the Jerry Garcia Amphitheater. I looked at the jeffersonstarshipsf.com site and didn't see a thing, but if Ms Kelly tells me about a show, she's in the know. Geraldine wants to kick all your asses that day. And, she can, you know. Plus, it'll be a lot easier to have a rmgd get together at a smaller venue rather than in the park for ChetFest. Joe ------------------------------ From: DG Subject: Re: Bottle Brush must go... Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 21:05:55 -0700 dearmeyer® wrote: > >> The Improved >> Meyer has 10+ lemons. > >Wow that is very improved. The old dearmeyer only has two. Still doing beter >than the new McHenry... http://www.fourwindsgrowers.com/variety_list.html ------------------------------ From: Ben Subject: Re: drug tests for jobs (NDC) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 21:08:29 -0700 On 18 Oct 2005 20:17:01 -0700, "Neil X." wrote: > >> Ben wrote: >> >> But without going into excruciating detail the one that drug tests is >> SO much better that there's no question in my mind about which to >> take. (I did the math in my head on the way home from work today - >> 20% salary increase). My current employer is gonna shit when I tell >> them. I'm going to have a huge laugh if they try to ask what it would >> take to get me to stay. > > >I was regularly urine tested for over 2 years while I did consultant >work for biotech companies. Many pharma companies asked for urine >tests, it was quite common to show up for the first day at a new gig, >work my first day, and at the end of the day be pointed to the >Occupational Health Office to give urine. FWIW, there was no personal >privacy for any of these tests. I don't know what you have planned for >that dried urine of yours, but even a "whizzinator" wouldn't have done >me any good at any of the places that tested me. They stood. They >watched. I pissed. Very public. Really? - that surprises me. Maybe I'll have to abstain for Vegoose. It would be a drag, but I did it at Jazzfest a few years ago because I started a job the following week with a company that had a mail-order pharmacy even though I had nothing to do with that. I had never turned down so much weed in my life - a friend of mine even brought me a quarter because he was sure I'd want it - had to turn that down too. The dehydrated stuff is supposed to be dissolved in water in a 50 ml vial and heated to the proper temp with foot warmers. They suggest stashing it in between 2 pairs of briefs but I might tape it under my arm. The vials are watertight - already tested that out. It's got a strip on the side to measure temp and I bought the digital thermometer for added measure. Of course, it definitely won't work if they watch. I thought they only did that for parolees. My friend who recommended this stuff works as a nurse and has used it a number of times. Hopefully it will be spelled out in the offer letter I'll get tomorrow, and I'm hoping they'll just tell me to go to a testing facility here - at my convenience so I'll be able to have the temp just right when I walk in. > >I'm now working at a great company that didn't test. My >recommendation--don't give into the fascists. In restrospect, it was a >mistake for me to consent to this indignity. Never again. Quality of >life is as important as a paycheck. Unfortunately, I see the 2 as permanently linked - the quality of life sucks where I'm at now, and even if I can't indulge for a while, I think this is best for me. Plus, if they wait 'til then, I'll almost certainly test negative anyway. And they'll have a lot invested in me already. > Opt to work for the company that >doesn't try to own your soul...... Oh, the other just expects me to work for slave wages and move 1100 miles in 2 weeks time (just long enough to give notice at my current job) with next to nothing as far as helping me relocate - they'll pay for a u-haul is about it. The other company pays for movers to come out, pack up my stuff, drive it there, break the lease at my apartment which won't be cheap, 60 days temp. housing, 1 months salary for incidentals and they're giving me nearly twice as much time to move. Not to mention a nearly 20% increase in salary - I can give up smoke for that. I've been out of my own stash since Labor Day anyway, and haven't smoked anything but crappy resin in a month - nearly 2 weeks since I had any res-hits. >what looks like a great opportunity >today won't necessarily look that way in 6 months. I'm thinking their philosophy is that they really don't care unless I'm such an addict that I can't put down the crack-pipe or smack-filled needle long enough to pass a drug test or if I'm not intelligent to figure out how to pass a test for pot. Maybe I'm wrong, but we'll see. Too bad there isn't a database on the web with people's experiences with specific companies - if there is one I couldn't find it. Maybe I'll start one. And I don't have to worry about hard drugs - never touch the stuff unless you count alcohol as a hard drug, which it definitely is compared to pot. About 10 years ago, I had an offer from a company that actually told me they'd waive the pre-employment test. Even though they would have paid more than 2 other offers I had, I didn't take it just because I didn't think they were the best job for me. > >Peace, >Neil X. Thanks for the real-life experience - much better than being told the company is right to test me or that I should just look for a different job. I have no problem with them firing me if I'm incompetent - I know I'm not, but I think it's just ridiculous that I could lose out on a good opportunity for something I smoked weeks ago - while I was on vacation, I might add. I'm determined to beat the system even if I have to give in to it temporarily. I suspect the clause in the app saying I'd be willing to submit to testing is 'for-cause' - in my case, that would have to be showing up for work drunk or obviously stoned I think - I'm not operating any heavy machinery unless you count computers. But even if it is random, if I can use the dehydrated stuff once, I think I'll be able to do it again - they gotta give me a little time to get to the testing facility. ------------------------------ From: Joe Subject: Re: Police make dozens of arrests @ Rolling Stones concert. Date: 19 Oct 2005 04:18:08 GMT Stephen St. wrote: > Pretty sorry stuff if you cant get high enough of the weed out there today. > Sucking on stems is pretty lowbrow, Mr Marin County money bags.... I sho 2000 uld have turned down the 3 grams that were given to me for free? Who exactly is the dumb fuck in this conversation? Hint: it ain't me. Dead Heads sure were better in the 70s. ------------------------------ From: The Lord of Eltingville Subject: Re: so...who owns a "hippy store" here? Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 00:10:54 -0400 Nick's Picks wrote: > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8344381427&ssPageName=MERC_VI_RSCC_Pr12_PcY_BIN_Stores_IT > > for example... Very nice...but you shouldn't fool yourself into thinking that it's any better than your own work, d00d. ~Ted ------------------------------ From: The Lord of Eltingville Subject: Re: Legion of Mary Permavine Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 00:17:41 -0400 thomasasmric@aol.com wrote: > > Thanks to Steve and Jason, I just finished burning these shows so it is > > time to offer > them back up. First one to reply to me directly with a promise to > continue > the vine gets 'em. > > Legion of Mary (6 shn discs total) > > 4/6/75 : http://db.etree.org/shninfo_detail.php?shnid=6372 > > 4/8/75: http://db.etree.org/shninfo_detail.php?shnid=14207 > > 4/9/75: http://db.etree.org/shninfo_detail.php?shnid=14606 > > 4/9/75: http://db.etree.org/shninfo_detail.php?shnid=4485 > > 4/10/75: http://db.etree.org/shninfo_detail.php?shnid=14209 > > 4/13/75: http://db.etree.org/shninfo_detail.php?shnid=4483 > > 4/18/75: http://db.etree.org/shninfo_detail.php?shnid=4482 Don't be a dink. Jump on this offer. These are some fine shows! ------------------------------ From: "band beyond description" <123@456.com> Subject: Re: For Camel Toe lovers Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 13:46:45 +0900 "JimK" wrote in message news:9m3al19di53mvlsh3m816thtai7km8hlup@4ax.com... > http://tinyurl.com/84saf http://www.cameltoe.com/index.php http://www.cafepress.com/cp/browse/v0.1/search.aspx?q=cameltoe -- Peace, Steve ------------------------------ From: "band beyond description" <123@456.com> Subject: Re: drug tests for jobs (NDC) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 13:55:06 +0900 "Richard Morris" wrote in message news:asidneMZwMEvasneRVn-pA@comcast.com... > > "Ben" wrote in message > news:1ft9l1t087c0tkf5o6kr84gjl1mnekdop8@4ax.com... > > On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 18:32:29 +0900, "band beyond description" > > <123@456.com> wrote: > > > >>> I don't have an offer yet, but it seems weird that they would spend > >>> somewhere between $500-$1000 to interview me in person but not include > >>> the drug test then. > >> > >>Nice to be considered for a job, but (especially as this issue is of > >>concern > >>to you) they're fascist motherfuckers. > >> > > > > Yeah, but they pay well, have great benefits, are in a great location, > > Yeah ... and if you get caught up in a random test and get terminated, you > have an unexplainable gap in your work history. That can dog you for a > number of years. > > R. if you let it, that is; paranoia may destroy ya....... -- Peace, Steve ------------------------------ From: "band beyond description" <123@456.com> Subject: Re: drug tests for jobs (NDC) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 14:10:55 +0900 > Maybe I'm wrong, but we'll see. Too bad there isn't a database on the > web with people's experiences with specific companies - if there is > one I couldn't find it. Maybe I'll start one. http://www.thevault.com/ haven't checked it lately, but that site used to have a searchable function for job-seekers containing anonymous gossip/personal experiences with various companies. -- Peace, Steve ------------------------------ From: "band beyond description" <123@456.com> Subject: NBA Players Now Must Adhere to Dress Code (NDC) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 15:57:40 +0900 bc-nba (ATTN: National editors) (Editors: A version of this story is also moving on the LAT-WP sportswire.) //NBA Players Now Must Adhere to Dress Code// By Jerry Crowe and Valli Herman (c) 2005, Los Angeles Times Still smarting from image problems nearly a year after players and fans attacked one another during a game at Auburn Hills, Mich., the NBA has cracked down on ... haberdashery. The NBA says it will require players to wear ``business casual attire'' when they are on league or team business and not in uniform apparently the first attempt by a major U.S. pro league to regulate how millionaire athletes dress out of competition. Deemed ``quite liberal and easygoing'' by NBA Commissioner David Stern, the code bans sunglasses worn indoors, sleeveless shirts, shorts, T-shirts, chains and do-rags, while requiring players on the bench and not in uniform to wear a sport coat. No longer will Kobe Bryant of the Los Angeles Lakers be seen arriving at Staples Center wearing throwback jerseys. Nor will Allen Iverson of the Philadelphia 76ers be allowed to wear caps cocked sideways during team functions or Rasheed Wallace of the Detroit Pistons to don headphones during news conferences. Players who violate the code could be fined. Repeat violators could be kicked out of the league, Stern suggested Tuesday. ``I don't think there will be a problem unless somebody wants to make a problem,'' Stern told reporters in New York. ``If they really want to make a problem, they're going to have to make a decision about how they want to spend their adult life in terms of playing in the NBA or not.'' It goes into effect Nov. 1, opening night of the season. ``We obviously have an image problem, and the commissioner is trying to make it better by doing this, but who knows if it's going to work,'' Los Angeles Clippers center Chris Kaman said Tuesday. `` ... You have guys wearing do-rags and chains and stuff like that, which was probably a little too much.'' Other players declared their opposition on various grounds. Marcus Camby of the Denver Nuggets, whose contract will pay him nearly $50 million over the next five years, told an interviewer before the code was imposed, ``I don't see it happening unless every NBA player is given a stipend to buy clothes.'' Iverson, at a party marking the launch of his new Reebok shoe Monday night, suggested that the policy puts too much emphasis on appearance. ``I think it's wrong,'' he told reporters shortly after the dress code was announced. ``You shouldn't judge a person from what they wear.'' Steve Nash of the Phoenix Suns, the league's most valuable player last season who favors jeans and rumpled T-shirts, said last week he thought the league would be overstepping its bounds. ``I'll do it, I'll go with the majority,'' he said. ``But my personal view is that I completely understand governing the attire of players around the bench. But other than that, I think it's kind of up to the individual.'' Some teams already have dress codes in place. The New York Knicks, for instance, require players to wear jackets and ties. And the league already required its coaches to wear sports coats, dress shirts, slacks and dress shoes on the bench. Stern said he consulted with the NBA players' union before implementing the new rules. Billy Hunter, executive director of the NBA Players Association, did not return calls for comment, but union President Antonio Davis has said recently that he supported a dress code. The NBA, which more than any other U.S. sports league has embraced hip-hop culture in trying to market itself to young fans as edgy and hip, wants to burnish its image. Business-savvy superstars in expensive suits, led by Magic Johnson and Michael Jordan, were the face of the league in the 1980s and 1990s. But shifts in American culture have played into concerns about a growing disconnect between the NBA and a portion of its audience. In recent years, players have begun to sport diamonds, gold, tattoos and street-inspired fashion such as throwback jerseys, while arenas have pla 2000 yed beat-heavy rap music at game. Robert Hutcherson, the head of a grass-roots fan group, told the Los Angeles Times last year that in the minds of some middle-aged ticket buyers, the music had helped perpetuate the notion of a ``thug league.'' The NBA's image took its worst hit last Nov. 19, when players charged into the stands and attacked fans, some of whom had pelted them with drinks and other objects, during a game between the Pistons and Indiana Pacers. The incident, replayed constantly for days on national television, resulted in suspensions and misdemeanor charges against several players. ESPN personality and Philadelphia Inquirer columnist Stephen A. Smith, who is black, wrote recently in support of the dress code, while suggesting that it was in part racially motivated. ``When you are selling a sport overwhelmingly populated by young black males to an older white audience, the reality is that impressions, first or otherwise, often determine your product's success,'' Smith wrote. `` ... Indeed, there's a racial element here. But since there are 60-year-old black parents and grandparents just as appalled by some players' attire, there is a generational element too. ... '' Peter Roby, director of Northeastern University's Center for the Study of Sport in Society, cautioned the NBA to tread lightly. ``There are plenty of well-dressed people now going to prison for defrauding their shareholders,'' Roby said. ``We have to be careful about making assumptions about folks simply on the way they look. That's a dangerous thing to do because it's how we start to create stereotypes.'' But Todd Boyd, a University of Southern California professor of critical studies and author of ``Young, Black Rich and Famous: The Rise of the NBA, the Hip-Hop Invasion and the Transformation of American Culture,'' said fans would not be alienated. ``In the last two years, hip-hop itself has become increasingly fashionable,'' he said, noting that rapper Jay-Z, a part owner of the New Jersey Nets, included lyrics on his 2003 compact disc, ``The Black Album,'' commanding listeners to dress better. Anyone wearing a throwbackjersey now, Boyd said, is out of style. AP-NY-10-18-05 2214EDT ------------------------------ From: "pookietooth" Subject: Re: Woman countersues RIAA for fraud and deceptive business practices (NDC) Date: 19 Oct 2005 04:25:14 -0700 If the trial goes to a jury I bet she'll win, probably not if it goes to a judge. But they're 100% guilty of conspiracy and racketeering and intimidation, so here's wishing her good luck. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 07:34:01 -0400 From: Gary & Ellie Reply-To: gary.and.ellie@gmail.com Subject: Re: audio extraction questions Neil X. wrote: >>Bill wrote: >> >>If EAC is needed to extract data accurately off a CD, it would seem a >>similarly accurate program would be needed to extract data off a data disc >>or hard drive. > > > > > OK, Bill, here's the scoop on audio files versus data files. Your > standard data file, whether it be a SHN file of compressed music, a > database of the yellowpages, or a large .tiff image/photograph, has a > data archetecture that reserves some data blocks for error correction. > > > Audio files, on the other hand, due to their streaming nature, were not > designed with any blocks reserved for error correction. > > Now, data transfer is a very error-prone process. Your hard drives and > optical drives constantly make read and write errors. But for regular > file types, that isn't a problem, becuase the errors are caught, > corrected and annotated in the data blocks reserved for that purpose. > Audio files don't have that advantage, so if you want to make a clean, > error-free copy of audio files, you have to use special software like > EAC. That isn't necessary for data files--the error correction is > automaticaly, intrinsically built into them. > > As an additional fail-safe for data files, some large file types like > SHNs and FLACs come with "md5 checksums." The md5 checksum is simply a > sum of all the data in the file. When you make a copy of a given file, > if an error occurs, the sum of the data in the file will be different, > and the copied file will not have the same checksum as the original. > So those md5 checksums are essentially a double-redundancy fail-safe. > If the md5 sum matches the copied file, you are guaranteed that the > copied file is bit-for-bit identical to the original file. > > So EAC is simply not needed for data files like SHNs....... > > HTH, > Neil X. > Right. This is why a lot of collectors trade in data formats. Once the data is on the disc and verified, it can't be screwed up (short of a physical disc failure). Everyone should know that EAC doesn't guarantee that you will get an error free copy. http://www.cdrfaq.org/faq03.html "It should be pointed out that, while digitally extracted audio is an exact copy of the data on the CD, it's an exact copy as your CD player perceives it. Different drives or different runs with the same drive can extract slightly different data from the same disc. The differences are usually inaudible, however. Some newer drives will report the number of uncorrectable errors encountered, so you can get a sense for how accurate the extraction really is." http://www.cdrfaq.org/faq06.html#S6-2-12 "There are many programs for extracting digital audio, but EAC has become the de facto standard application for doing so. *On some CD-ROM drives it can guarantee extraction of 100% perfect audio,* and on most others it does as well or better than anything else available." http://wiki.etree.org/index.php?page=SeedingGuidelines "Seeding starts with getting your recording into a format for electronic distribution. This involves "transferring" your material to a computer, changing it to 44.1kHz sample rate for CD if necessary, listening to the audio for a quality check, tracking it for CDs, compressing the audio data into a lossless format (Shorten or FLAC), and creating the necessary companion files for your seed, including an informative "info" (txt) file. Recordings are sometimes seeded from burned CDs, in which case the DAT transfer and tracking steps are replaced with a careful digital audio extraction (DAE) step. However, seeding directly from DAT is strongly preferred whenever possible." ------------------------------ From: "Rogues Island's finest" Subject: Re: Are you working in the same field you majored in college? Date: 19 Oct 2005 04:49:30 -0700 ba ba booie wrote: > Are you working in the same field you majored in college? Well, I majored in Business, Marketing/Management/bong/beer (after switching majors about 20 times during my first few years of college), and I work in high tech sales, so I suppose that could be considered the same field. But I really hope to be a rock star or a fireman someday. Mark ------------------------------ From: "chosney" Subject: Re: Amazing Band for your wedding or party! Date: 19 Oct 2005 04:59:14 -0700 ramzi.budayr@gmail.com wrote: > Hello couples and party planners, > These guys are > going to hit it big, and I guarantee they will make your wedding one of > the most memorable events in your life. Don't you think that it is going to be one of the most memorable events regardless? ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** The service addresses, to which questions about the list itself and requests to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, are as follows: Internet: dead-flames-request@gdead.berkeley.edu Bitnet: dead-flames-request%gdead.berkeley.edu@ucbcmsa Uucp: ...!{ucbvax,uunet}!gdead.berkeley.edu!dead-flames-request You can send mail to the entire list (and rec.music.gdead) via one of these addresses: Internet: dead-flames@gdead.berkel c1 ey.edu Bitnet: dead-flames%gdead.berkeley.edu@ucbcmsa Uucp: ...!{ucbvax,uunet}!gdead.berkeley.edu!dead-flames End of Dead-Flames Digest ****************************** . 0