2000 From: Digestifier To: Subject: Dead-Flames Digest #699 Dead-Flames Digest #699, Volume #48 Fri, 28 Oct 05 10:00:01 PDT Contents: Re: I am thinking of driving up to Vermont today. (wyeknot) Re: Condi v Hillary 2008? (JC Martin) Re: Garcia USPS stamp proposal nixed (SillyThingsHappen@hotmail.com) Re: Fillmore 69 Box Set vs 2004 Archive SHN Versions ? (nbndtrain@yahoo.com) Re: Condi v Hillary 2008? ("Everybody's Gonna Be Happy") Re: Bob Set/Phil Set 10-27 (crashedlevee@yahoo.com) Re: Bob Set/Phil Set 10-27 ("Rick L") Re: Bob Set/Phil Set 10-27 (JimK) Re: garcia's attorney ("Peat her Rabbit") Re: Bob Set/Phil Set 10-27 ("Olompali4") Re: Grateful Dead sounds like Adolf Hitler & Joseph Goebbels ! ("RandyStoner") Re: Is Steve Kimock really this bad? ("Peat her Rabbit") Re: Is Steve Kimock really this bad? (ba ba booie) Re: Rove gets pass???? (JC Martin) Re: Is Steve Kimock really this bad? ("minnehaha") Re: The year 1972 ("minnehaha") Re: Condi v Hillary 2008? (memory705@hotmail.com) Re: The year 1972 (JonP) Re: Bob Set/Phil Set 10-27 ("DanPopp") Re: Grateful Dead sounds like Adolf Hitler & Joseph Goebbels ! ("The Iron Muffin") Re: FUJI CD_R and DVD ALERT! (JonP) Re: Tie-dye hunters (SDC) ("Nick's Picks") ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: wyeknot Subject: Re: I am thinking of driving up to Vermont today. Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 11:34:25 -0400 ba ba booie wrote: > I am thinking of driving up to Vermont today. > > ba ba booie wrote: > I am thinking of driving up to > Vermont today. > > The Master, is the master or just Master? > Anyway the SKB is playing up there tonite and I have nothing to do this > Friday, so I thought I would take a drive up north. > My intentions was/is to cruise up to Boston to see the SKB @ The > Paradise. > > Rogues Island's finest wrote: > Good choice, booie. Decent room, just be very, very careful about > lighting up in there. There is a blonde undercover chick who throws > dozens of smokers and underaged drinkers out of there EVERY show. > > wyeknot108@oohay.com > (wyeknot) wrote: > And be forewarned that it's probably not an ideal club for taping. The > "taping section" is in a cramped balcony near the ceiling of the club. > The soundboard is up there too. The best sound for listening is dead > center on the floor which means (a) if you're on the floor, your gear is > out of sight, and (b) your mic's are not getting the best sound most > likely. > > It is one the better clubs in Boston though. And yes, grab a setbreak > brewski at the club next door. If there's a cover, your Kimock > ticket/bracelet will get you in. > > > bbb wrote: > Are you guys talking about Boston or Burlington, VT? The Paradise in Boston. > Either way, I am getting itchy. > I gotta move. > I have my route planned. > > I hope my mobile makes it. > I just put on new spark plug wires and a cap and rotor for the > distributor. Are there cars that still use distributors? > > Anyone wanna go ; ) > (must be of sound mind though) And good character, no? I'll be in Vegas by midnight, so no-can-do. Matt ------------------------------ From: JC Martin Subject: Re: Condi v Hillary 2008? Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 15:38:17 GMT memory705@hotmail.com wrote: > Everybody's Gonna Be Happy wrote: > >> wrote in message >>news:1130428676.073408.233490@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >> >>>Everybody's Gonna Be Happy wrote: >>> >>>> wrote in message >>>>news:1130344363.586183.156800@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... >>>> >>>>>Everybody's Gonna Be Happy wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> wrote in message >>>>>>news:1130340819.108824.276380@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>And what does not being married have to do with it? >>>>>> >>>>>>The primitive religionists will interpret that as being a lesbian. >>>>>> >>>>>>A black lesbian with a fancy college education. >>>>>> >>>>>>That pretty much rules her out as a Republican presidential candidate. >>>> >>>>>I don't think they would mind her having an advanced degree. George W. >>>>>Bush not only has an advanced degree, but an Ivy League advanced >>>>>degree, and not just any Ivy League advanced degree, but a Harvard MBA. >>>> >>>>But Bush is obviously as stupid as the American Taliban, no matter what >>>>school he skated through. >>>> >>>>Rice is obviously very bright; a smart, well educated, black (lesbian?) >>>>member of the east (and west) coast elite who goes to churches where >>>>blacks >>>>were bombed by good ole boys instead of a church where snakes are handled >>>>and strychine drunk. >> >> >>> They both seem equally intelligent to me. They agree on everything >>>and connect very well on a personal level. >> >>LOL. >> >>Rice is light years smarter than the literal imbecile Bush. Condi is well >>read, bright, quick, well traveled. Bush can't complete a coherent >>sentence. > > > > Oh I agree that Rice is a lot more prepared when she speaks in public, > but their ideas, philosophies, and overall world view is so similar > that I think they are equally intelligent. If you ignore their > superficial speaking styles and listen to the actual content of what > they say, they both give identical answers to questions. The thought > process is identical. Well, she does work for Dubya after all. Her job is to mirror the president's views exactly. It's not Rice's job to reveal her personal politics. She could be further to the right or further to the left. I suspect that she's not a true neo-con or even an old-school Republican. But she surely is loyal. No one gets to the top that fast being their own person. > Bush may come across as less intelligent because he was probably a > party animal in his youth while Rice was a hard working academic, but > the fact that they see eye to eye on such complex global issues, they > both think the same way, combined with the fact that they both share > the same personal hobbies (i.e. faith and football) and relate so well > to one another tells me they are equally intelligent. Can't say I agree. -JC ------------------------------ From: SillyThingsHappen@hotmail.com Subject: Re: Garcia USPS stamp proposal nixed Date: 28 Oct 2005 08:38:18 -0700 Make your own Garcia stamp. Use the Yahoo stamp page here: http://photos.yahoo.com/ph/page?.file=holiday_stamps.html There is a shipping and set-up fee, but hey, the stamps you make are legal and can be collectible because they are unique, eh? ------------------------------ From: nbndtrain@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Fillmore 69 Box Set vs 2004 Archive SHN Versions ? Date: 28 Oct 2005 08:43:11 -0700 > > I'm not sure about the story behind the circulating soundboards, but > > they were either from a mix determined on the night of the show > > (possibly set at the beginning of the night and never changed) or from > > earlier mixdowns from the same 16-track tapes. From what I've heard > > about 4/71, the former is more likely. In the case of the '69 shows, > > I've heard the latter. I believe all the currently circulating mixes of FW 69 were rough mixes from 16 track made by Phil many years ago when he wanted to release them. ------------------------------ From: "Everybody's Gonna Be Happy" Subject: Re: Condi v Hillary 2008? Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 08:43:32 -0700 wrote in message news:1130513136.990872.259030@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Everybody's Gonna Be Happy wrote: >> Rice is light years smarter than the literal imbecile Bush. Condi is >> well >> read, bright, quick, well traveled. Bush can't complete a coherent >> sentence. > Oh I agree that Rice is a lot more prepared when she speaks in public, > but thei 2000 r ideas, philosophies, and overall world view is so similar > that I think they are equally intelligent. If you ignore their > superficial speaking styles and listen to the actual content of what > they say, they both give identical answers to questions. The thought > process is identical. > > Bush may come across as less intelligent because he was probably a > party animal in his youth while Rice was a hard working academic, but > the fact that they see eye to eye on such complex global issues, they > both think the same way, combined with the fact that they both share > the same personal hobbies (i.e. faith and football) and relate so well > to one another tells me they are equally intelligent. You realize that Bush simply parrots what Rice and her ilk tell him to say, right? Bush's worldview is so simplistic that he needs a Rice or a Powell to fill in the millions of blanks. His entire foreign policy can be summed up thusly: its hard work, we're staying the course, I will never change, remain steadfast, let's smoke 'em out of their holes, and is there really a country called Slovenia? Rice knows the names and history of every single world leader. She knows the background and history of every country in the world. She knows how to present herself and her positions in a diplomatic fashion because she has actually heard of Slovenia. She is light years ahead of Bush in the intel department. EGBH ------------------------------ From: crashedlevee@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Bob Set/Phil Set 10-27 Date: 28 Oct 2005 08:48:22 -0700 were you there Bradish? My guess is your feet would have been moving if you were. The jams were big. ------------------------------ From: "Rick L" Subject: Re: Bob Set/Phil Set 10-27 Date: 28 Oct 2005 08:48:32 -0700 The second set was Wicked Messenger The Wheel> Garden of Eden David Nelson then left the stage and did not return until Not Fade Away King Solomans Marbles> I Am The Walrus> The Other One> Mountains Of The Moon> Terrapin Station> Not Fade Away Encore Ripple Some random thoughts,I would have liked to hear a little more Barry and a little less Jimmy.I really missed John Molo,Sipe was ok but didnt have that swing.also after David Nelson left the stage the vocals and harmonies were lacking.I love Phil but hearing him sing 3 songs in a row is a little much. That said I think the band did an awesome job with dealing with the lineup change on short notice. Thanks to David Nelson for a fine job in relief of the missing Ryan Adams. ------------------------------ From: JimK Subject: Re: Bob Set/Phil Set 10-27 Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 11:55:54 -0400 Reply-To: jkezwind@comcast.net On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 14:59:45 GMT, "Bradish" wrote: > > wrote in message >news:1130509529.776555.272600@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >> >> Olompali4 wrote: >>> Ratdog >> >>> Eyes > Stronger than Dirt > Eyes >> >> That sounds interesting. > >It would have been interesting around 30 years ago. > >Now its oldies night > Either it was well played or it wasn't. The age of the songs is irrelevant to the issue of whether the music was interesting. JimK ------------------------------ From: "Peat her Rabbit" Subject: Re: garcia's attorney Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 16:14:06 GMT no ------------------------------ From: "Olompali4" Subject: Re: Bob Set/Phil Set 10-27 Date: 28 Oct 2005 09:16:43 -0700 > I would have liked to hear a little more Barry and > a little less Jimmy I'd take all Sless, no Herring. > I love Phil but hearing him sing 3 songs in a > row is a little much. Gack City! ------------------------------ From: "RandyStoner" Crossposted-To: cz.zamestnani.hledam Subject: Re: Grateful Dead sounds like Adolf Hitler & Joseph Goebbels ! Date: 28 Oct 2005 09:21:46 -0700 Dylanstubs wrote: > > Gerry Lintonice wrote: > > Yes, seems to be nazi music from the Third Reich. > > Well, there's a complaint I haven't heard before! I knew there was > something subversive about Workingman's Dead. I guess I should have known when they did that 45 minute jam of the Horst Wessel Lied > Wacht am Rhein > Deutschland uber Alles. ------------------------------ From: "Peat her Rabbit" Subject: Re: Is Steve Kimock really this bad? Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 16:30:39 GMT i agree with the reviewer although his vitriol doesn't go far enuf. one thing i will say for kimoch, he can imitate garcia with the worst of them. he should form a dead cover band and leave it at that. oh, and he should do the audience the courtesy of standing up. don't curtsey, just stand for bog's sake ------------------------------ From: Jazare@webtv.net (ba ba booie) Subject: Re: Is Steve Kimock really this bad? Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 12:27:40 -0400 He's guaranteed good entertainment. No matter where I go. Unless the venue is a dive! booie....... .. .. .. Have you checked these sites out today? http://www.jambase.com http://www.jambands.com http://www.jambase.com/festivals .. Find out where your favorite band is playing. Pollstar (the concert hotwire) http://pollstar.com ------------------------------ From: JC Martin Subject: Re: Rove gets pass???? Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 16:39:32 GMT Don Bean wrote: > I hear that Rove gets a pass and Libby does not.... We will see > today.......... I hear differently. Libby gets indicted today. Rove is still under investigation (likely to be indicted later)...meaning that Fitzgerald will extend the grand jury. That's definitely not a good sign for the Bush administration since folks like Dick Cheney and others could be looked at in more detail. And IMO, the extending of the grand jury is a worst-case scenario for the Bush administration. -JC ------------------------------ From: "minnehaha" Subject: Re: Is Steve Kimock really this bad? Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 12:41:28 -0400 "ThinCover" wrote in message news:1130509488.131106.268580@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > This is the best bad review I've read in a long time. "Aural > Velveeta," ha! > > Source: http://tinyurl.com/degsa > > STEVE KIMOCK BAND, EUDEMONIC > > E-Mail | WWW > (Sci-Fidelity Records, CD) > > There's a common term for the milquetoast noodling that > California-based guitarist Steve Kimock traffics in, and it's called > elevator music. An altogether uninspired outing, Kimock's latest > release, Eudemonic, is filled with bland jazz-lite that attempts to > pass itself off as respectable fusion. > > Kimock, who is something of a god amongst neo-jam and groove fans, is > the latest in a long line of six-string blowhards who have little to > say on their instruments but take plenty of time to do so. Backed by a > jam-by-numbers band, the guitarist substitutes technique for soul on > one cut after another for an album's worth of aural Velveeta. > > Eudemonic's self-titled opener is so patently sterile that it could set > guitar-based music back by at least a decade. Like the soundtrack to a > Soloflex commercial or telephone hold music, the tune pounds its > faux-funk bass line into your skull with mind-numbing repetition. > Nearly as dull, the subsequent track "Ice Cream" is redeemed only by a > tight snare shuffle and polyrhythmic cymbal work. "Bouncer" is Kimock's > attempt to hitch his wagon to a modern dance groove. Unfortunately, the > tune's central motif has less bite than a geriatric without dentures. > I'm not sure which is worse: Kimock's meaningless, single-note doodles > or his ham-fisted stabs at riffery. > > And what cornball instrumental album would be complete without a sappy > ballad? Kimock's flaccid centerpiece "In Reply" is his. With its > overarching sentimentality and twee melodies, it sounds like Lawrence > 2000 Welk gone Windham Hill. > > "Elmer's Revenge" boasts a shifting time signature that provides the > album's most compelling moments. Fleshed out by a minor-key guitar > figure, the tune's serpentine groove is fairly engrossing. However, I > soon forgot this highlight upon hearing the excruciatingly dull "Moon > People." A grievous attempt at progressive rock, the track proves that > sound effects and stero panning are a poor substitute for inspiration. > > It unsettles me that musicians such as Steve Kimock are receiving so > much attention in the jazz-jam sceen. A pinnacle of banality, Eudemonic > could be used as weapon in the War on Terror -- play this baby 'round > the clock at GitMo and detainees are bound to start talking. > > There is a good reason to attend Kimock's show at the Higher Ground > Ballroom on Oct. 28, however: A food drive hosted by the philanthropic > organization Conscious alliance with benefit Chittenden County > emergency food shelves. Now that sounds worthwhile. > That pretty much summed up my opinion of Kimock. I never could figure out why so many people here who think they have good taste in music actually like the guy. But I guess when you listen to something like Bruce Hornsby enough, someone like Kimock seems cutting edge. ------------------------------ From: "minnehaha" Subject: Re: The year 1972 Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 12:43:27 -0400 "Dylanstubs" wrote in message news:1130510587.282305.315970@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >> scarletbgonias@hotmail.com wrote: >> The copy of 9/21/72 sounds pretty good, although I'm sure the official >> release will sound better. >> >> OK guys, correct me if I'm wrong, but 8/27/72 isn't there because it's >> SSDD and we're still waiting on that official release, right? >> >> Theresa > > That other site that has live Grateful Dead still has 8/27/72. > SSSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ------------------------------ From: memory705@hotmail.com Subject: Re: Condi v Hillary 2008? Date: 28 Oct 2005 09:51:04 -0700 Everybody's Gonna Be Happy wrote: > wrote in message > news:1130513136.990872.259030@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > Everybody's Gonna Be Happy wrote: > > >> Rice is light years smarter than the literal imbecile Bush. Condi is > >> well > >> read, bright, quick, well traveled. Bush can't complete a coherent > >> sentence. > > > Oh I agree that Rice is a lot more prepared when she speaks in public, > > but their ideas, philosophies, and overall world view is so similar > > that I think they are equally intelligent. If you ignore their > > superficial speaking styles and listen to the actual content of what > > they say, they both give identical answers to questions. The thought > > process is identical. > > > > Bush may come across as less intelligent because he was probably a > > party animal in his youth while Rice was a hard working academic, but > > the fact that they see eye to eye on such complex global issues, they > > both think the same way, combined with the fact that they both share > > the same personal hobbies (i.e. faith and football) and relate so well > > to one another tells me they are equally intelligent. > > You realize that Bush simply parrots what Rice and her ilk tell him to say, > right? Perhaps Rice simply parrots what Bush tells her to say. There's an excellent article in the New Yorker that looks at Rice's views before she worked for Bush and demonstrates how he's influenced her to see the world his way. Of course their ideas were similar to begin with which is why he hired her, but he seems to have influenced her more than she influenced him, according to the article. > > Bush's worldview is so simplistic that he needs a Rice or a Powell to fill > in the millions of blanks. His entire foreign policy can be summed up > thusly: its hard work, we're staying the course, I will never change, > remain steadfast, let's smoke 'em out of their holes, Rice says pretty much teh same, she's just more polished because she's a career academic. It makes far more sense to judge a person's intellect by what they say, then by how they say it. Ideas and substance reflect intellect far better than superficial knowledge and style. and is there really a > country called Slovenia? > > Rice knows the names and history of every single world leader. She knows > the background and history of every country in the world. She knows how to > present herself and her positions in a diplomatic fashion because she has > actually heard of Slovenia. > She may have more geo-political knowledge than Bush, but that doesn't mean Bush is any less intelligent. Bush does not have a foreign policy background. ------------------------------ From: JonP Subject: Re: The year 1972 Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 09:53:06 -0700 On 28 Oct 2005 07:43:07 -0700, "Dylanstubs" wrote: >> scarletbgonias@hotmail.com wrote: >> The copy of 9/21/72 sounds pretty good, although I'm sure the official >> release will sound better. >> But dix may cut stuff out of their release..Songs, jerry solos, maybe a phil bass solo here or there but other than that and the 20 dollar price tag its probably one of the greatest dead shows ever....Ill never understand why they cut the shows up..And cutting up jerrys solos?...yikes... Jonp ------------------------------ From: "DanPopp" Subject: Re: Bob Set/Phil Set 10-27 Date: 28 Oct 2005 09:55:11 -0700 That was one smokin' Cumberland. King Solomons Marbles is fun to hear and David and Barry made my night. Now it's Yosemite with a full mug of Hot Buttered Rum. ------------------------------ Reply-To: "The Iron Muffin" From: "The Iron Muffin" Crossposted-To: cz.zamestnani.hledam Subject: Re: Grateful Dead sounds like Adolf Hitler & Joseph Goebbels ! Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 13:05:33 -0400 RandyStoner wrote: > Dylanstubs wrote: > > > Gerry Lintonice wrote: > > > Yes, seems to be nazi music from the Third Reich. > > > > Well, there's a complaint I haven't heard before! I knew there was > > something subversive about Workingman's Dead. > > I guess I should have known when they did that 45 minute jam of the > Horst Wessel Lied > Wacht am Rhein > Deutschland uber Alles. "Fire...Fire on the Reichstag!" -- The Iron Muffin DEAD FREAKS UNITE Who are you? Where are you? How are you? ------------------------------ From: JonP Subject: Re: FUJI CD_R and DVD ALERT! Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 09:57:57 -0700 On Thu, 27 Oct 2005 22:30:36 -0500, Tom wrote: >The first time I got stung on Fuji's rebate scams was on ZIP discs >years ago..Never got my rebate till 4 months later I called and made >a big stink etc.( I ALWAYS keep copies of rebate forms) Mysteriosly >arrived a few days later Well, fool me twice, I ordered CD_Rs and >never got the rebate etc. etc and the third time (hey they OFFER good >rebates) I fell for the "If you register your rebate online you gets >your rebate in 2 weeks" trick. Well 1 month later (who knows what they >did with my e-mail address but afterwards I had to change it due to >spam) I had to call, threaten etc. and mysteriously received it >shortly thereafter. Well what goes around... I got a $700 Fuji camera >for x-mas last year and guess what- I immediately returned it. I will >NEVER but anything from Fuji EVER AGAIN. I wonder if the few bucks >they made delaying my rebates saved them money on my returned camera? I never ever ever ever get stuff with a rebate unless the rebate is done at the register...There was some sort of study a couple of years ago about rebates and basically they said that most folks NEVER get rebates untill AFTER they complain about it to the company... Jonp ------------------------- 404 ----- From: "Nick's Picks" Subject: Re: Tie-dye hunters (SDC) Date: 28 Oct 2005 09:59:08 -0700 I did a report in a marketing class (1989) in college about this same concept. dying w/colors to match the environment. looks like someone else is making a biz of it. ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** The service addresses, to which questions about the list itself and requests to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, are as follows: Internet: dead-flames-request@gdead.berkeley.edu Bitnet: dead-flames-request%gdead.berkeley.edu@ucbcmsa Uucp: ...!{ucbvax,uunet}!gdead.berkeley.edu!dead-flames-request You can send mail to the entire list (and rec.music.gdead) via one of these addresses: Internet: dead-flames@gdead.berkeley.edu Bitnet: dead-flames%gdead.berkeley.edu@ucbcmsa Uucp: ...!{ucbvax,uunet}!gdead.berkeley.edu!dead-flames End of Dead-Flames Digest ****************************** . 0