2000 From: faq@gdead.berkeley.edu Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead Subject: rec.music.gdead FAQ, pt. 2 of 2 Grateful Dead Frequently Asked Questions, pt.2 [Last update: February 26, 2002] [Updates denoted by * in TOC, briefly described below TOC.] *********************************************************************** Disclaimer: The information found in this document is for informational purposes only, and should only be distributed freely and in it's entirety. Nothing in this document is officially sanctioned by or affiliated with the Grateful Dead, GDP, GDM, etc. Their *is* some info on the GDH, GDTS, DeadBase etc., but it's all information that is freely available. Please do not use or apply this information for commercial gain, political repression, drug enforcement, or other unkind schemes. Thank ye. *********************************************************************** ***Please note that this FAQ is split into two sections This article includes answers to: 13) What does BIODTL mean (and other abbreviations or FQA's)? *14) Is there a GD discography? 15) What radio stations carry the Grateful Dead Hour, and when? 16) What are the archive sites? 17) Whatever happened to Owsley? 18) What are mailing lists, and how do I subscribe to them? 19) Upcoming confirmed tour dates. 20) Is it OK to post rumors? 21) What are some topics that have caused "flame wars" in the past? 22) What should I do if I see a post from Jerry or Bob or Phil, etc.? 23) What is Stak-O-Dead and where can I get one? 24) How can I spot a fake ticket? 25) Where can I find the Dancin' Bear ScreenSaver? 26) When's Mail Order for New Year's? 27) Where can I find Useless DeadStats? 28) Has Unbroken Chain ever been performed Live? 29) Who are the Grateful Dead? 30) The Eleven and Other Rhythmic Oddities 31) What is the significance of "The Darkness Got to Give" with respect to the summer of 1995? If you're looking for the answer to, say, question 14, and want to skip everything else, you can search ahead for the regular expression "^14)". If you have suggestions or corrections for any of these answers, please send them to faq@gdead.berkeley.edu * Updates: 14) updated stats for Ihor's The Compleat Grateful Dead Discography 13) What does BIODTL mean (and other common abbreviations or FQA's)? ------------------------------------------------------- Here are a few: AKA: Also Known As (sometimes written "a/k/a") AWBYGN: And We Bid You Good Night BCT: Berkeley Community Theatre BG: Bill Graham Boston Garden BGP: Bill Graham Presents BIODTL: Beat It On Down The Line BTW: Black Throated Wind By The Way DDN: Dupree's Diamond News FAQ: Frequently Asked Questions FOAF: Friend Of A Friend FOTD: Friend of the Devil FQA: Frequently Questioned Acronyms FTR: For The Record FTP: File Transfer Protocol FWIW: For What It's Worth FYI: For Your Information GD: Grateful Dead (of course;-) GDH: Grateful Dead Hour GDM: Grateful Dead Merchandising GDTRFB: Goin' Down The Road Feelin' Bad GDTS: Grateful Dead Ticket Sales IJWTS: I Just Want To Say IKYR: I Know You Rider ITALTLITATTC: It Takes A Lot To Laugh, It Takes A Train To Cry IMHO: In My H{umble, onest} Opinion IMNSHO: In My Not So Humble Opinion IMO: In My Opinion ISO: In Search Of JAPD: Just Another Picky Deadhead JBG: Johnny B. Goode JGAB: Jerry Garcia Acoustic Band JGB: Jerry Garcia Band LDR: Long Distance Relationship LJBF: Let's Just Be Friends LLR: Looks Like Rain LSD: Lysergic acid Diethylamide LTGTR: Let The Good Times Roll MIDI: Musical Instrument Digital Interface MO: Mail Order MSG: Madison Square Garden MonoSodium Glutamate MSWS: Man Smart, Woman Smarter NFA: Not Fade Away NSB: New Speedway Boogie NYE: New Year's Eve ODC: Obligatory Dead Content OFTV: One From The Vault OMSN: One More Saturday Night OTOH: On The Other Hand PITB: Playing In The Band PPPS: Peace RSVP: Repondez, S'il Vous Plait (French for "please reply") SASE: Self Addressed Stamped Envelope SIOMWTMBA: Stuck Inside Of Mobile With The Memphis Blues Again SO: Significant Other SOTM: Standing On The Moon SPAC: Saratoga Performing Arts Center SSAE: Stamped, Self-Addressed Envelope SYF: Steal Your Face, Space Your Face TANSTAAFL: There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch TLEO: They Love Each Other TOC: Table of Contents :) TWLWMYD: That's What Love Will Make Ya Do TWYDTTYD: The Way Ya Do The Things Ya Do UJB: Uncle John's Band VLDR: Very Long Distance Relationship VOTC: Victim Or The Crime WALSTIB: What A Long Strange Trip It's Been WELL: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link WRT: With Regard To (sometimes written "w/r/t") YATG: Yet Another Ticket Grovel YLGM: Your List Gets Mine 14) Is there a GD discography? -------------------------- Yes. Compiled by Ihor W. Slabicky (iws@ssmic.ssd.ray.com), it is an attempt to summarize the Grateful Dead's history on vinyl, film, and paper. It currently contains information on at least 972 albums, 168 singles, 256 movies/TV shows/videos/ads, 204 books, and 36 song books where the band or members of the band appear. Ihor use to post updated versions of the discography to rec.music.gdead once or twice a year. See http://tcgdd.freeyellow.com for The Compleat Grateful Dead Discography. The Grateful Dead Family Discography http://www.deaddisc.com/ Matt (matt@deaddisc.com). It's approach is different in that used by Ihor; it has album details on separate pages with full track lists etc. 15) What radio stations carry the Grateful Dead Hour, and when? ----------------------------------------------------------- Link for the GD Hour is now http://www.trufun.com/gdhour.html and the station list is http://www.trufun.com/stations.html Eternal thanks to David Gans for the kind sounds of the Dead Hour. 16) What are the archive sites? --------------------------------------------- The main anonymous ftp/gopher site is gdead.berkeley.edu (128.32.45.201) FTP and access to the site is detailed below. gdead.berkeley.edu also has a gopher server. People with gopher clients can connect with: gopher gdead.berkeley.edu Gopher is a distributed document delivery service allowing access to various types of data residing on multiple hosts by presenting a hierarchical arrangement of documents using a client-server com- munications model. Your guess is as good as mine..:) If you have access to the World-Wide Web (e.g. via Mosaic), there's a pretty impressive setup done by Mark Leone that incorporates alot of the stuff from the berkeley site. Just open the following URL and follow the menus: http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~mleone/dead.html A "Deadhead Home Page Index" may be found at: http://www.shore.net/~aiko/dead_html/index.html The Official Grateful Dead Home Pages is http://www.dead.net/ The material contained at the various ftp sites is freely available to anyone with ftp access, and should not be distributed for commercial gain without the explicit permission of the authors of said material, unless otherwise noted. The gdead site at berkeley has all sorts of goodies, including ibm/mac/Next stuff, discography, gdhours, setlists, stats, tape-label programs, tye-dye info, sounds, site-layouts, etc. There is also some stuff at ftp.apple.com (130.43.2.3) in pub/gdeadstuff Additionally, some guitar tabulations can be fo 2000 und at ftp.nevada.edu (131.216.1.11) in pub/guitar/Grateful_Dead and at cs.uwp.edu (131.210.1.4) in pub/music/guitar/g. All of these ftp sites accept anonymous as the user name, as detailed below with relation to gdead: For those who don't know, gdead.berkeley.edu is an anonymous ftp site for Dead-related stuff. Just "ftp gdead.berkeley.edu" and use "anonymous" as a user name. Help is avalible with the "help" command. no ftp access: email ftpmail@decwrl.dec.com, help as message body. There are a few things you should know if you have never anonymous ftp(ed) before. First, in order for you to access the ftp site you must be on the internet; I assume you are. Second, your site must be using the name server (which comes with the internet feed). Third, you must be familiar with anonymous ftp procedures. I'll address each of these concerns. Note: This session was done ftp'ing the old archive site. I've kept it in and changed the appropriate addresses because it's an example of a FTP session done with UNIX-based equipment. I additionally added a session I had with the new site from a VAX below. Assuming you are on the internet you should not have any problems getting through to gdead.berkeley.edu. I am not sure of the situation of people with pc-modem packages, that is to say I don't know where they get the dead_flames feed from or how they do connect into the internet (so I can't really help these people.) However being on a ...com (or .edu) address you should be "dialed in dude" :) Anyway if your site is not running the name server you will have to give the literal IP address for gdead.berkeley.edu. A name server is a bit of software that automagically looks up the IP address associated with the name of the computer you are trying to send mail to, or connect to. The other thing to keep in mind is the type of equipment both sites are using. Ideally both computers will be UNIX machines. ftp is a UNIX thing, and who knows what to do if you aren't on a UNIX box. [It all works about the same on VAX/VMS, though you may have to type in >user< to get the Name prompt:] The following insert is a typical file transfer protcol (ftp) session with gdead.berkeley.edu where one connects and sends a file back to one's own machine. Note everything inside the >< is what one types in response to the prompts. Don't actually type in the >< when you use this as an example. Anything inside the () are comments to help you understand. Hope this helps. Also I'm assuming most people reading this far are complete novices at this, so this is why I'm explaining in such detail. (session begins.) (If this does not work you will have to try the IP address number for the machine.) (try typing >ftp 128.32.45.201<) Connected to gdead.berkeley.EDU. 220 gdead FTP server ready. Complaints and questions should be sent to . Name (gdead.berkeley.edu:jgarcia): >anonymous< 331 Guest login ok, send your complete e-mail address as password. Password: >(type in your login name here e.g. mpg Your typing will not appear on screen)< 230 Guest login ok, access restrictions apply. ftp> >ls< 200 PORT command successful. 150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for /bin/ls (0 bytes). bin etc init lost+found pub shlib 226 Transfer complete. 47 bytes received in 8e-06 seconds (5.7e+03 Kbytes/s) ftp> >cd pub< 250 CWD command successful. ftp> >cd gdead< 250 CWD command successful. ftp> >ls< 200 PORT command successful. 150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for /bin/ls (0 bytes). ps stakodead tape-lists tape-lists-drop-box 226 Transfer complete. 48 bytes received in 5e-06 seconds (9.4e+03 Kbytes/s) ftp> >cd ps< (you can cd to any of the four directories listed above.) 250 CWD command successful. ftp> >ls< 200 PORT command successful. 150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for /bin/ls (0 bytes). AirJerry.ps Jerry-Magic-full-page.ps Jerry-Magic-quarter-page.ps Jerry-Magic-sixteenth-page.ps Jerry-and-Bob-characature.ps Young-Jerry-full-page.ps Young-Jerry-tenth-page.ps club.ps misc-dead-graphic.ps nethead.90.ps 226 Transfer complete. 228 bytes received in 1.1e-05 seconds (2e+04 Kbytes/s) ftp> >binary< (binary transfer mode should be used for sending files.) 200 Type set to I. ftp> >get misc-dead-graphic.ps< 200 PORT command successful. 150 Opening BINARY mode data connection for misc-dead-graphic.ps (53540 bytes). 226 Transfer complete. local: misc-dead-graphic.ps remote: misc-dead-graphic.ps 53540 bytes received in 22 seconds (2.4 Kbytes/s) ftp> >quit< 221 Goodbye. (end session) To submit something for installation on gdead.berkeley.edu: 1. cd /pub/gdead/drop-box 2. put "file-name" (where "file-name" is the name of the file on your system containing what you want to submit) Thanx to Richard Langston for keepin' the archives for awhile and, I believe, creating this sample session. Well, that's the way it was, and it should all pretty much work the same way at gdead.berkeley.edu I've left that all in because it's an example of a UNIX-based machine talking to the site. Here's a session I had with the berkeley site using a VAX, all the conventions are the same, xcept stuff inside [] is stuff you should type without the [] and then hit a carriage return, anything inside () are notes...and i used dir instead of ls to get the listing of files/directories...they are usu. interchangeable.. Additionally, it's been mentioned to me that when FTP'ing from some VAXen, it's necessary to put double quotes around the commands you give to the ftp site. So if the below doesn't work for ya, try that, for example ["dir"] instead of [dir] [ftp gdead.berkeley.edu] xxx.xxx.xxx Multinet FTP user process 3.1 3.1(105) Connection opened (Assuming 8-bit connections) [user] (type in user to get the username prompt) Foreign username: [anonymous] [dir] [cd pub] [dir] [cd gdead] [dir] [get README] To local file: [readme.txt] [quit] prompt before downloading most if not all files...hope this helps...email me if i've messed anything up here, and the README file says: Questions and comments may be directed to: kraitch @ eecs.Berkeley.EDU P.S. typing cd.. at the prompt will get you back up a directory level. Also, incoming submissions to gdead.Berkeley.EDU may be left in /pub/incoming or /pub/gdead/drop-box 17) Whatever happened to Owsley? ---------------------------- He can often be found backstage selling interesting, expensive jewelry. If you meet him outside you could always talk to him and ask him yourself. An interview with Bear appears in David Gans' book, CONVERSATIONS WITH THE DEAD. Bear's web pages include http://www.crl.com./~zbear http://www.thebear.org 18) What are mailing lists and how do I subscribe to them? ------------------------------------------------------ Mailing lists are for people who do not have regular net access, or wish to concentrate on a specific topic. The mailings on each topic are collected in groups and then mailed to you, usually containing anywhere from 10-20 messages each. The difference is that mailing lists are not interactive as the newsboards. Dead-Flames was a digestified version of rec.music.gdead, and Dead-Heads is a low-volume "important-info-only" list (tickets/setlists/ GDH schedule mainly). If you'd like to subscribe to a mailing list, here are the subscription addresses for some popular ones. For each list choose only ONE address: Internet: Dead-Heads-Request@gdead.berkeley.edu UUCP: ...!uunet!gdead.berkeley.edu!dead-heads-request Internet: DAT-Heads-Request@Virginia.EDU DAT-Heads-Request@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU BITNET: DATH-Req@VIRGINIA UUCP: ...!uunet!virginia!dat-heads-request Internet: number6@grove.ufl.edu to subscribe to the Jefferson Airplane (JStarship,Hot Tuna) mailing list. The Airplane homepage is at http://grove.ufl.edu/~number6/Jefferson.Airplane/airplane.html 19) Upcoming confirmed tour dates. ------------------------------ For the most accurate and uptodate Tour Dates, and a list of viable rumoured dates, check the newsgroup rec.music.gdead, the dead-flames digest, or the dead-heads email list regularly for Jeff Lester's posting with Subject: TOUR DATES, CONFIRMED AND RUMORED ***************************************************************************** The lastest version of the TDC&R post is kept at the Grateful Dead archive site at gdead.berkeley.edu. It can be accessed via anonymous ftp or gopher from this site in the file pub/gdead/tour_dates. It can also be retrieved by sending email to majordomo@gdead.berkeley.edu with the following message in the body (no subject is necessary): get dead-heads tour_dates ***************************************************************************** 20) Is it OK to post rumors? ------------------------ It depends who you ask. If you do post rumors, they should be clearly labelled as such. Be prepared to take some flack, especially if you attempt to say things about the bandmembers' personal lives. 21) What are some topics that have caused "flame wars" in the past? --------------------------------------------------------------- Seat-scamming at shows. People yelling and acting obnoxious during songs. "Miracle ticket" seekers. Gate crashing at shows. Personal rumors about GD band members. Sexism in Dead lyrics. Violence at Dead shows. Security at given venues. Vendors who are there to vend, and *not* to attend shows. Police brutality and their anti-Deadhead prejudices. Articles that unfairly bash the Dead and Deadheads. Don't call us CHICKS! We are women. Old Heads vs. Young Heads. Donna. Deader Than Thou. Using "Touchhead" as a demeaning term. Quoting X lines to say "me too" where X > 20. Debates on the splitting of rec.music.gdead. Telling Dead-Flames digest readers to just hit "n". Anything that challenges the "Politically Correct Deadhead Thinking" as espoused on rec.music.gdead. Forged postings. Religion. The "lot scene". "All aol.com posters are clueless" "All .edu posters are bratty college kids" For all the general randomness on the Net, one of the more consistent things you see if you watch long enough is the annual Posting of the FlameBait. The way it usu. works is that somewhere around the time a new college semester starts, an inflammatory posting will appear on the net. It is usually (but not always) a hateful attack on one branch of the human race or another, and/or based on linking some undesirable trait or behavior with some outward appearance. It could simply be a statement designed to attack the icons of a given subculture. Or it can accuse the members of a subculture of a multitude of heinous acts. It is usually (but not always) cross posted to many different newsgroups. The posting can be recognized easily enough, but it generally engenders three types of response. The first is a plea to ignore the original posting. The second type is an outraged counter attack. The third an outraged counter argument. Usually each response quotes most of the text of the initial post. In the course of a couple weeks the original post will have been repeated dozens of times, wasting alot of time, energy and material. Uncountable thousands of dollars worth of hardware and software and net.bandwidth are sucked up and consumed. THE WAY TO HANDLE FLAMEBAIT: Ignore it! If for some reason the FlameBait is too horrible to stand, then use private Email. If you have to spend your time attacking or rebutting some fool, it is best done (like many things) in private. Email to postmaster@hostname and tell her about this horrible person abusing the tender ears in cyberspace. Some sys-admins are actually pretty good about these matters, and can get to the source of the problem efficiently. EXERCISE SOME CARE : Also remember, there are a large number of techno- freaks out there who spend hours figuring out how to crack accounts, and some percentage of them will then post some screed to a network from the cracked account. You may be spending hours of your life responding to these horrible mad ravings, to a person who *didn't* *do* *it* in the first place. Ask yourself if it is a worthwhile way to spend your time and energy. [contributed by Frank Caherty: caherty@wizard.nrl.navy.mil edited by John J. Wood: jojw@uhura.cc.rochester.edu] 22) What should I do if I see a post from Jerry, Bob, Phil, etc.? ------------------------------------------------------------- Ignore it. There have been bogus postings in the past purporting to be from members of the band, but none of the band members post here. The only people who validly post to rec.music.gdead that are directly related to the band are David Gans and John Perry Barlow. Other luminaries :-) post here occaisonally as well, such as Frederic Lieberman, who received co-author credit on both _Drumming at the Edge of Magic_ and _Planet Drum_. 23) What is Stak-O-Dead and where can I get one? -------------------------------------------- It's a Hypercard database, with setlists, lyrics, etc. from '74 to about '90. It also has some good graphics, tape label makin' capabilities and some great sound-bites. Allen Baum's is on the net still but the original author (John Gilber 2000 t) has passed away (RIP). (Updates for '91 and '92 are now located at the ftp site in pub/gdead/set-lists). You can update it on your own by importing ASCII text in the form of: mm/dd/yy venuename, city, ST songname songname With each song listed on its own line, and each set/encore seperated by a blank line. Its a grate little utility if ya got the hardware and software, most handy for when Deadbase isn't around or ya need to paste on a skeleton here or there, among other things. It's available via anonymous ftp from ftp.apple.com in pub/gdeadstuff/stakodead and is also on the dead archive at gdead.berkeley.edu in pub/gdead/mac. 24) How Can I Spot A Fake Ticket? ---------------------------- For starters, there's no reason you should ever have to, as buying tickets from scalpers or in the lot is frowned upon strongly, but lectures aside, your best bet is to take it to the ticket-takers and ask them if its legit. For GDTS tix, you can make a small tear at the edge of the ticket, and if it's good it will have what appears to be red paper in the center of the ticket (between the front and back). You can also do the old comparison to others GDTS tix. For TixMaster (and assumedly Bass) tix, you can give 'em the cigarette burn test, which is basically ya touch the lit end of a cig to the ticket, and a) it doesn't burn all the way through b) leaves a purplish mark on the tix. This, however, is not a failsafe method either, as all it confirms is that the tix were printed on thermal paper, and are most likely TicketMaster stock. The problem being, that TM stock occaisonally has a funny way o dissapearin', so fake tix could be printed on legit paper, and ya won't know 'til ya get to the door. The best way to know is to buy them yourself :-), and the next best is to take 'em to the door and have a venue- person take a look. 25) Where can I find the Dancin' Bear Screen Saver? The first readily available screen saver with any sort of a dancin' bear was a violation of GDP/GDM's intellectual rights (according to them :-). This screen saver was for PC's and clones, working in the Windows environment. To get it runnin' ya need two files, dbear.zip and vbrun200.zip. Once you get them, you need to unzip both , then put the dbear files and vbrun200.dll into your Windows directory. If you then open Windows and click on the desktop icon in the Control Panel folder in the Main Folder of Windows, Dancin' Bear should be one of the screen saver options. Now, to get the files, ya gotta grab 'em off a ftp site. Remember that they are both binary, so set your file type to binary before transferring them. Past locations of these files have been as follows: site dir file nic.funet.fi /pub/msdos/windows/desktop dbear.zip gatekeeper.dec.com /.f/micro/msdos/win3/desktop dbear.zip winftp.cica.indiana.edu /pub/pc/win3/desktop dbear.zip wuarchive.wustl.edu /systems/ibmpc/win3/util vbrun200.zip or vbrun300.exe or gatekeeper.dec.com /.f/micro/msdos/win3/util (same vbrun files) Among other places, no doubt... Good luck and enjoy. For Mac-users, there used to be no screen saver available. If you have a copy of the After Dark program containing the module Globe, and you also possess a Mac startup screen that was either posted to the net or formerly available at the ftp site then you could conceivably paste the bears from that startup screen into Globe and make yourself one. GDM has the official "Digital Dead Screen Saver" (http://grateful.dead.net/merchandising/special/index.html) for PCs and clones (80386 or greater) and Macintosh (Macintosh LCII or greater). This screen saver features Grateful Dead Animation including the random action of the Dancing Bears. 26) When's Mail Order for New Year's? Due to the death of Bill Graham and the break up of the Grateful Dead following Jerry Garcia's death, there probably won't be anymore New Year's shows in the foreseeable future. The New Year's shows were pretty much parties thrown by Bill, and the band hasn't done any since the one shortly after his passing. 27) Where can I find Useless DeadStats? Eric J. Simon and our friends at gdead.berkeley.edu have setup a server for Simon's Useless DeadStats. You can obtain setlists and statistics for any shows since 1974. To obtain information about how to use the server, send mail to "stats@gdead.berkeley.edu" with a Subject: line of "help" (case insensitive). This will return a 3-page help file to you with furthur information. 28) Has Unbroken Chain ever been performed Live? Yes, it was first played live on March 19, 1995 at the Philadelphia Spectrum; it was extensively soundchecked March 17, 1995 at the Philadelphia Spectrum. Previously, there was a version of Unbroken Chain from the Mars Hotel Studio sessions circulating on copies of 12-12-73 from the Omni, but it is not a soundcheck, rather from the above- mentioned sessions in 1974. Other tunes never performed live include Antwerp's Placebo, France, Pride of Cucamonga, Serengetti, Walk in the Sunshine, and What's Become of the Baby? 29) Who are the Grateful Dead? Jerry Garcia, Lead Guitar, Vocals Former Members Phil Lesh, Bass Guitar, Vocals Ron "Pigpen" Mckernan, Front Man Bob Weir, Rhythm Guitar, Vocals ('65-8/26/71, 12/01/71-6/17/72) Bill Kreutzmann, Rhythm Devils Tom "TC" Constanten, Keyboards Mickey Hart, Rhythm Devils (11/68-1/26/70, 4/28/71) Vince Welnick, Keyboards, Vocals Keith Godchaux, Keyboards, Vocals (10/19/71-2/17/79) Donna Godchaux, Vocals (3/25/72-2/17/79) Kinda Members: Brent Mydland, Keyboards, Vocals Robert Hunter, Lyricist (4/22/79-7/23/90) John Perry Barlow, Lyricist Bruce Hornsby, Keyboards, Accordion Candace Brightman, Visuals (9/15/90-3/92 - a few) Bob Bralove, does somethin' Former Kinda Members: John Cutler, SoundEngineer And a host of others. Dan Healy, SoundWizard Betty Cantor, SoundEngineer Owsley aka Bear And a host of others. 30) The Eleven and Other Rhythmic Oddities The Eleven is called that simply because it is in the time signature of 11/8. There are eleven beats to the bar with the eighth note as the beat. It is subdivided as three groups of three(triplets) and one group of two. It can be counted like this: 123 123 123 12, with each of the numbers representing an eighth note. The last two eighths are usually emphasized, often with two drum whacks or sometimes by Phil. The transition between St. Stephen and The Eleven is basically in 12/8 with the 12th eighth note being dropped at some point to create the basic structure for The Eleven. 12/8 is essentially the same as the common 4/4 except that triplets predominate. Another example of a Grateful Dead song in 12/8 is Truckin'. The Seven is essentially a variation of The Eleven. It is in 7/8 and the main grouping is 123 12 12, although it switches around a good bit. There are only four known performances of The Seven(according to Deadbase VII) and two of those were Mickey and the Hartbeats shows. Estimated Prophet has a 7 beat pattern. On some tapes, especially on early versions, you can hear Bobby count to seven to start the song. It could probably be written in either 7/8 or 7/4. However, alternating bars of 3/4 and 4/4 are easier for musicians to read and that is how it appears in the published sheet music. Playing in the Band is essentially in 10/4, hence its original name The Main Ten. However, 10/4 measures would be difficult for musicians to read. The most logical thing is to have two 4/4 bars followed by a 2/4 bar, ecd which is the way it appears in the published sheet music. In time signatures where the quarter note gets the beat it is generally common practice to not go over 5 beats a measure. 7 is used occasionally, while 6 is better written as two 3/4 measures. Other songs, such as the Other One, that might sound like they are in odd meters are actually not. Their rhythmic complexity is derived from accents on off beats. Unusual accents also add further to the complexity of Playin'. [Thanks to Michael Bell mbell@mail.utexas.edu for the above info] 31) "The Darkness Got to Give" is the title of the letter handed out at the show on Wednesday July 5, 1995: -------- [GD skeleton logo] The Darkness Got to Give 7/5/95 Dear Dead Heads: This is the way it looks to us from the stage: Your justly-renowned tolerance and compassion have set you up to be used. At Deer Creek, we watched many of you cheer on and help a thousand fools kick down the fence and break into the show. We can't play music and watch plywood flying around endangering people. The security and police whom those people endangered represent us, work for us -- think of them as us. You can't expect mellow security if you're throwing things at them. The saboteurs who did this can only do it if all Dead Heads allow them to. Your reputation is at stake. Don't you get it? Over the past thirty years we've come up with the fewest possible rules to make the difficult act of bringing tons of people together work well -- and a few thousand so-called Dead Heads ignore those simple rules and screw it up for you, us, and everybody. We've never before had to cancel a show because of you. Think about it. If you don't have a ticket, don't come. This is real. This is first a music concert, not a free-for-all party. Secondly, don't vend. Vending attracts people without tickets. Many of the people without tickets have no responsibility or obligation to our scene. They don't give a shit. They act like idiots. They think it's just a party to get as trashed as possible at. We're all supposed to be about higher consciousness, not drunken stupidity. It's up to you as Dead Heads to educate these people, and to pressure them into acting like Dead Heads instead of maniacs. They can only get away with this crap if you let them. The old slogan is true: if you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem. Want to end the touring life of the Grateful Dead? Allow bottle-throwing gate crashers to keep on thinking they're cool anarchists instead of the creeps they are. Want to continue it? Listen to the rules, and pressure others to do so. A few more scenes like Sunday night, and we'll quite simply be unable to play. The spirit of the Grateful Dead is at stake, and we'll do what we have to do to protect it. And when you hear somebody say "Fuck you, we'll do what we want," remember something. That applies to us, too. [signed] Billy Jerry Phil Mickey Bobby Vince ******************end of letter********************************** A mailing list has been created for the purpose of developing the Save Our Scene (SOS) action plan. For subscription info, send email to: sos-request@gdead.berkeley.edu --------------- [Thanx to the mysterious individual who created this FAQ, and John J. Wood and Eric Nay for keeping it going.] End of Part 2 of 2, rec.music.gdead FAQ -- . 0