2000 From: SOS-Digest-Owner@gdead.berkeley.edu To: SOS-Digest@gdead.berkeley.edu Subject: Save Our Scene Digest V1 #30 Reply-To: SOS@gdead.berkeley.edu Errors-To: SOS-Digest-Owner@gdead.berkeley.edu Precedence: Save Our Scene Digest Friday, 18 August 1995 Volume 01 : Number 030 In this issue: Re: ANNOUNCE: Unofficial NYC Central Park Grassroots Gathering Re: Positive Press turning to the family for advice ps to my personal request... Re: ANNOUNCE: Unofficial NYC Central Park Grassroots Gathering Re: ANNOUNCE: Unofficial NYC Central Park Grassroots Gathering Re: ANNOUNCE: Unofficial NYC ... Re: ANNOUNCE: Unofficial NYC ... Re: Positive Press Re: ANNOUNCE: Unofficial NYC ... Re: Positive Press See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the SOS or SOS-Digest mailing lists and on how to retrieve back issues. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DancnBones@aol.com Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 07:48:58 -0400 Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: Unofficial NYC Central Park Grassroots Gathering We don't need the City's blessing to gather. We can have our own peaceful, meaningful remembrance just by gathering. So be it: 4:00 p.m. -- at the Great Lawn, near 81st Street. ------------------------------ From: crandolph@mail.mcp.com (Carla Randolph) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 08:00:36 -0500 Subject: Re: Positive Press Greetings, all-- Connie's idea (below) about giving to charities is really good, I think, and in keeping with Jerry's family's request to give. Does REX have any on-line connections, or any of other groups the family suggested? If not, does anyone like the idea of forming a sub-group within SOS to be that link? There are so many ways we could use the Internet to raise contributions and make people aware of those organizations. ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Positive Press Author: "Connie Szeflinski" at Internet Date: 8/17/95 7:51 AM I have read the outcries about some of the "negative" press we and Jerry have gotten recently, and i can't help wondering why people are so concerned about the opinions of those who just don't understand. I do not believe that it would be a good use of funds to do any PR just now, since people who want to see the worst will continue to do just that no matter how much money we throw at ads etc. I believe such an ad will be a self serving device to make "us" feel better and will do very little to change any minds. How about something positive like donations to some worthwhile causes. Let's not spend our money on "cosmetic surgery" when there is so much real pain in the world. I would rather see SOS contribute money to the favourite charity of some of our detractors. Let's show these people what we are made of, not how defensive we are of our own image. When i first read Chuck Green's column (posted in r.m.gd, i'm "on vacation" in Jersey this week visiting my mom) my first reaction was to cancel my subscription to the Post... but then i'm a firm believer in the first ammendment, and bad manners and boorish behaviour don't negate the fact that even people like Mr. Green are entitled to express their opinions. Let's prove that they are at least partially wrong by providing a positive concrete example of the good we can do... not just show that we can raise money to project an "image". I hope i haven't offended anyone (i seem to do that even when i'm not trying, like now)... let's spread a little love and goodness and hope that people notice, and if they don't... at least we'll have done something positive and not just spent money trying to make ourselves feel good. take care, connie - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Connie Szeflinski Boulder, CO & Santa Cruz, CA USA connie@cozmic.com - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: DarkStar Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 08:29:02 -0500 (EST) Subject: turning to the family for advice I have a personal problem that I am grappling with, and I hope I can turn to y'all, the family, for your opinions and advice. This is really sort of a personal trip, although it does impact our scene and the rest of the family on some levels, but if you are not interested, that's okay. Just please don't flame me, my intentions here are sincere, and I am struggling to do the right thing.... As you may know, I spent the last 4 year or so putting together my tour cookbook. It is not a corporate trip, it is not for profit, all proceeds are going to SEVA and Rex. It has not been an easy task, esp. with some of the weird interactions regarding the other book, Elizabeth Zipern's book from St. Martin's Press, "Cooking with the Dead." I have no intention of conflicting with her trip, but it is important to understand that my book is very different (I think) from hers..both in appearance (mine is self-published and rather, er, rustic, yeah, that's the word), in content (mine is *really* a collection of over 150 recipes, told in the words of the contributors, but not the life story of various vendors and Deadheads with one sample recipe each..it really is a cookbook), and intent -- as I said, I am not making a dime on this, all proceeds are going to charity... As I have said before, this is my gift back to the Family, in honor of what would have been my 25th year on the bus next April... But right now, I am really torn. I have several people advising me that "the time is really ripe" to go full steam with the book, and do a lot more marketing, upgrade the quality, really go for it...I have tried to be pretty low-key all along anyway, since I hate being misunderstood about what I am doing it for, etc. I am not sure this is like my whole purpose for living, but I have put a hell of a lot of energy into it, and I would love to really make a ton of money for Rex and SEVA... But I am afraid of appearing to "cash in" on Jerry's death. I am really going through a tremendously difficult adjustment anyway, and probably not thinking too clearly, and I am not even sure if any of this is even coming out right...I just want to ask you, my family, what you think I should do..how best to approach this...I was really sort of counting on vending (if we were agreed that "good" vending was okay), but that's in darkest question now. And I have tried to promote it on the Net, in a very gentle way, since I hate getting flamed for appearing to be some self-serving sales person (which is NOT what any of it is about anyway!)... The only ads I've been able to afford have been in Unbroken Chain. But...perhaps I should do more...and perhaps it's now or never....that is the feeling I am getting in some ways...and some people are encouraging me that way..but I ask y'all for your help and gentle consideration... Thanks for any kind words; please don't misunderstand or jump in my shit, I am really not doing real well here....If you have criticism, at least be gentle.. thanks... Beth Livingston |Voice:919.469.0049 | "when there were no strings Walkabout Writing Svs.|Fax: 919.319.8701 | to play..you played to me" darkstar@vnet.net | Keep the trip going | Thank you, Jerry... =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ------------------------------ From: DarkStar Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 08:33:45 -0500 (EST) Subject: ps to my personal request... I just had a half of an idea...I just got some more mail from y'all about donating to charity, commemorative ideas, etc...Is there a way we could use my cookbook to do this? I would be happy to make any changes in it to commemorate Jerry, or do something special to help address these ideas..I'm just not sure what..If you can think of something, I am comple 167c tely at your disposal.... thanks.. Beth Livingston |Voice:919.469.0049 | "when there were no strings Walkabout Writing Svs.|Fax: 919.319.8701 | to play..you played to me" darkstar@vnet.net | Keep the trip going | Thank you, Jerry... =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ------------------------------ From: quinan Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 10:27:07 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: Unofficial NYC Central Park Grassroots Gathering Hi James, I'll be up there. My feeling, though, is that the best place to hold it in the park might be sheep's meadow. It's much cooler than the great lawn, and it has traditionally been a place for people to hang out in a mellow fashion anyhow. It's huge, and it's toward the west side of the park (right next to Tavern on the Green restaurant) from about, hmm, about 67th to 70th st.'s. A particular 'quadrant' of the meadow could be designated. I think the best thing to do would be for someone to bring a flag of some sort--preferably a dead flag. I would, but I don't have one. What do you think? - -- John.Quinan@nyu.edu :-) :-) :-) :-) :-0 ------------------------------ From: DancnBones@aol.com Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 10:57:57 -0400 Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: Unofficial NYC Central Park Grassroots Gathering The tribute should not be held in the Sheep Meadow. Even though our gathering will be peaceful, it will still be a large get together; there will probably be guitars, perhaps some tapes, and perhaps a fair amount of noise. For one who spends a great deal of time hanging in the Sheep Meadow, I would be dissapointed if any group decided that it was going to use a portion of this area for their gathering. Most people who hang out there just want to read, look at the trees, etc., without having much activity about. The Great Lawn is the traditional open area for all sorts of get togethers and would be the best place for our's. ------------------------------ From: Hildoc@aol.com Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 13:09:14 -0400 Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: Unofficial NYC ... Hi all, I do not have a strong preference for location as I don't go to the park much....but I do think we should post a definite location ASAP. Is there anyway to have a centralized source of dead music? Hilary Klein ------------------------------ From: quinan Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 13:31:47 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: Unofficial NYC ... I think it has been settled: the great lawn, enter at 5th ave and 85th (86th?), follow the red ribbons to the music tent and hang... see you there - -- john quinan ------------------------------ From: "Jolie B. Goodman" <6500jo@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu> Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 10:52:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Positive Press On Fri, 18 Aug 1995, Carla Randolph wrote: > > Greetings, all-- > > Connie's idea (below) about giving to charities is really good, I think, and > in keeping with Jerry's family's request to give. Does REX have any > on-line connections, or any of other groups the family suggested? According to the LA Times, Friday, 8/11/95, Deborah Koons Garcia requested that contributions be made to the Haight-Ashbury Free Medical Clinic. Does anyone have their address? I think I saw it printed in the Chronicle when we were in SF for the memorial. Jolie ------------------------------ From: Hildoc@aol.com Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 13:52:34 -0400 Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: Unofficial NYC ... I think we should all post, at various points this evening, the announcement of this spot for the grassroots Jerry memorial. There are so many postings to the net these days, that I think multiple announcement postings are advisable so people can get the info easily. Hilary ------------------------------ From: langston@nowhere.net (Rich Langston) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 11:02:03 -0700 Subject: Re: Positive Press At 5:52 PM 8/18/95, Jolie B. Goodman wrote: >On Fri, 18 Aug 1995, Carla Randolph wrote: > >> > Greetings, all-- >> >> Connie's idea (below) about giving to charities is really good, I think, and >> in keeping with Jerry's family's request to give. Does REX have any >> on-line connections, or any of other groups the family suggested? > >According to the LA Times, Friday, 8/11/95, Deborah Koons Garcia >requested that contributions be made to the Haight-Ashbury Free Medical >Clinic. Does anyone have their address? I think I saw it printed in the >Chronicle when we were in SF for the memorial. > >Jolie Haight-Asbury Free Clinic-Detox 409 Clayton St. SF CA 94117 Rex Foundation PO BOX 2204 San Anselmo CA 94979 Rich Langston, langston@nowhere.net, langston@mainstreet.net http://www.nowhere.net **///*** Internet Nobody! "See here how everything leads up to this day, And it's just like any other day that's ever been" -J. Garcia, "Black Peter" ------------------------------ End of Save Our Scene Digest V1 #30 *********************************** To subscribe to SOS-Digest, send the command: subscribe sos-digest in the body of a message to "Majordomo@gdead.berkeley.edu". 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