SUBJECT: VIDEO FOOTAGE OF ROSEWELL AUTOPSY FILE: UFO3317 VIDEO FOOTAGE OF ROSEWELL AUTOPSY (This information is shared on our Web Site and comes from various sources posted on Internet) The information in this page is an example of Information we hope to share. It comes from posts on the Newsnet sharing information published in a British Magazine. While the video footage has not been confirmed, I (Joshua) did get a call from a friend who said a mutual friend of ours meet Colin Andrews, a leading British Crop Circle Researcher, who confirmed he had viewed this footage. I believe it is only a question of time before official confirmation of UFOs is announced and this video may be one of the catalyst to help this situation. Joshua The following information was published in the January 1995 issue of The Circle Hunter magazine, published in England (information on this magazine below). ============================================================ (Begin magazine text) ------------------------------------------------------------ Stop Press: Video Footage of Roswell Autopsy Discovered Less than 15 hours before we were due to go to press, Reg Presley appeared on the BBC morning chat show, "Good Morning with Anne and Nick." He disclosed some interesting information concerning the Roswell alleged UFO crash. This is how the interview went (although Reg was supposed to be discussing the subject of crop circles on the chat show, he wasted no time in launching into the latest information concerning the Roswell case). (Concerning the alleged UFO crash at Roswell): "If you think that you aren't going to find out about that, I have some great information. I was speaking to a producer the other day who has just got hold of some film footage of the autopsy done on the aliens." This was followed by shocked reactions from Anne and Nick who bombarded Reg with questions as fast as they could before the end of the transmission in five minutes' time. They were over in America searching for some old Elvis film. This old guy, now about 76, said, 'If you think that this Elvis Presley footage is fantastic, what do you think about this?', and from underneath his bed he pulled out 15 cartridges of old film, and he said, 'I thought this was so important at the time that I made a copy and I didn't tell anyone and I've said nothing since.'" "Have you seen this?" Reg was questioned. "I've seen the film, and the film has been analysed and it is original 1947 footage." "What does the video show?" Anne asked him "It shows an alien being worked on, in an autopsy, by humans. I've seen one (alien), but I believe there are three more. There's 15 reels of this, so there's 150 minutes of the crash site, debris, and the autopsy." "How do you know it's an alien from what you've seen?" probed Anne. "Well, it doesn't look like you and I!" Reg joked. "It's longer than we've been led to believe. We've been led to believe that they're four feet (in height), but the one I have seen has to be six feet or more." Although it remains to be seen what the outcome of this whole case is, if it is a genuine piece of footage then it will be a huge step forward in the Roswell case. If there's footage on the cine film of the crash site as well, then it would certainly add credibility to the whole case. It will be interesting to see how this footage turns out... - Anthony Horn (End of magazine text) ============================================================ It has been reported that the U.S. television show, Encounters, has purchased a copy of this footage for $150,000 and plans to air it later in the year. There is another report that there will be two private showings of the footage within two weeks; one showing will take place in L.A., the other on the East Coast. No other details available. Colin Andrews, the well-known crop circle investigator, reportedly viewed 15 minutes of the footage which showed the bodies. ============================================================ The following information was published in the February 1995 Issue of The Circle Hunter magazine, published in England (Information on this Magazine below). The excerpt below is a follow up to an article from their January issue concerning alleged video footage of the Rosewell incident in 1947. Reports of the footage being purchased by the U.S. television show Encounters have not been confirmed. ============================================================ (Begin magazine text) All the talk at the moment seems to be about the recently discovered video concerning the Rosewell alleged UFO crash and subsequent autopsy of alien bodies (see article last issue). John Holman, UK co-ordinator of "Operation Right to Know", has been on the case talking to Reg Presley and people invovled in the Rosewell incident, and has uncovered some more details about the film. The part of the film that contains footage of the debris reveals an abundance of military personel, as well as a large crane with lifting tackle. Perhaps the most astounding detail which has surfaced is that a number of recognisable persons can be made out. One of these is President Harry Truman, the US President during the Rosewell incident. The implications of this alone are quite startling, adding credence to the hypothesis that the video is not hoaxed. The lengths that someone would have to go to, to obtain footage of President Truman in 1947 and somehow "mask" him on to set-up footage of a UFO crash site all on old cine film typical of 1947 would in itself be a very difficult task. Take, for example, the 1994 Hollywood smash, "Forrest Gump" where the actor Tom Hanks appears to shake hands with President Kennedy in a piece of black and white footage. This was produced using the lastest technology, at great expense to their budgest (alledgedly the most expensive scene in the whole film), and using a whole army of scientists and engineers. In the case of the Rosewell film, cine footage of other recognisable persons would have to be masked on to the screen in addition to President Truman, and then all the different characters would have to interact with each other in an operation much more complex than the simple handshake performed in "Forest Gump". The BBC have already agreed to show the film on network television later this year, but the film will be studied further, before then, to help determine the origin of this bizarre footage. Time should reveal the true nature of this old cine film, but one thing is certain: it is either a hoax of unprecendented proportion, or elese a UFO really did crash, alien bodies were really recovered, and the President of the United States was present at the site. Different people will have different views, but at this stage we should all be open minded and prepared to accept either possibility. (End of magazine text) ============================================================ Note: The Circle Hunter magazine is edited by Ian McCormack and Anthony Horn, and produced monthly. Ian McCormack can be reached at 23 Cedarwood Drive, Leyland, Lancashire, PR5 1HN, England. Phone: (01772) 456765. Anthony Horn can be reached at 23 Sea View Drive, Scarborough, North Yorkshire, Y011 3HY, England. Phone: (01723) 351639. ============================================================ Robert Mitchell has been sharing with us and people on newsnet about this situation. On Sunday, March 5th, we received the message below from him (actually the previous sections came from his posts as well: ------------------------------------------------------------ Return-Path: robert.mitchell@awaiter.com From: robert.mitchell@awaiter.com (Robert Mitchell) Subject: RE: ROSWELL UPDATE Date: Wed, 1 Mar 1995 18:43:00 GMT Organization: Awaiter BBS 510-939-9992 To: rshapiro@interaccess.com Hi Joshua, thank you for the encouragement. At this point in time things are happening very quickly in England concerning the Roswell case, much faster than I can keep up with. I'll do my best to keep you informed, I believe it's very important that this info. reach out past just the UFO insiders. I know you have your own spin on this type of info., I believe that I can trust you to keep the spirit and intent in which this info. is being givin. Please also keep in mind that this could all be a hoax, and that this infomation could be givin out to pull us away from much more important matters. With that in mind here's part III (The two previous parts listed above). Here's the latest on the Roswell film/autopsy report part 3. I would like to give special thanks to the International UFO Congress & Film Festival for there help in making this information available. I'm sorry, I'm not at liberty to give the name of the individual who faxed us this information. Hopefully he will allow us to use his name in the future. I received this fax on 02-28-95 from England via are friends at the International UFO Congress in Oakland Ca. No changes have been made to the text in any way, it appears just as I received it. ============================================================ "With regards to your questions about the alleged Rosswell Film Footage. First of all I am very careful about what appears on these computer networks. In England It appears that everybody with a computer is trying to get into the act with the consequence that they are getting full of total rubbish". "The name of the person who went to the United State and purchased the film is Ray Santilli He is involved in the production of films, mainly musical. I have been in touch with him and he confirmed that he had purchased several reels of 1940s vintage miliary film footage which purports to show autopsy being carried out on alien beings". "So far he has allowed certain people to view 15 minutes of the film. I had chance to view the film but was not prepared to travel 250 miles in view of what I was told from people who had seen it". "The film which as you can imagine is very poor quality and shows a body on an ordinary wooden table, with the torso covered with a white sheet. Only the head arms and legs are visible. The head is turned away from the camera, so cannot be seen properly. Two men in white coats are shown taking samples of flesh from the arms and placing them in plastic bags. The autopsy appears to be taking place in a shed and the lighting is by gas pressure lamps. There is no sign of any contamination prceedures or even gloves worn by the Doctors performing the Autopsy. the film shows a date which is 17 days later than the Rosswell crash and the use of plastic bags for samples is to me unbelievable. I have attended hundreds of post mortem examinations and the use of plastic bags for samples is totally unthinkable. Glass containers have always been used for body samples because they do not contaminate the sample, but plastic does. In those days plastic bags were new and very primitive". "Santilli states that he has entered into contract with the giant Fox Lorber Corporation in America to produce a film and videos which will contain some of this footage". That's it, the rest of the fax is of a personal nature and is considered confidential. ... I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere! ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 ============================================================ Another message received from Robert Mitchell, on March 7th ------------------------------------------------------------ Subject: ROSWELL UPDATE - PART IV From: robert.mitchell@awaiter.com (Robert Mitchell) Date: Mon, 6 Mar 1995 18:33:00 GMT To: rshapiro@interaccess.com -=> Quoting Rshapiro@interaccess.com to Robert Mitchell <=- Rs> Date: Sun, 05 Mar 1995 14:02:47 -0600 Rs> To: robert.mitchell@awaiter.com (Robert Mitchell) Rs> From: rshapiro@interaccess.com (Richard Shapiro) Rs> Subject: RE: ROSWELL UPDATE Rs> Thanks for sharing Robert, we are starting a Web Site and I am going Rs> to place your first two message there (since it is from a public Rs> magazine) Should I add your last message to it? There should be no problem with using it, I have permission to post it on the net, it is public information. I do have another post from England that I cannot verifiy in anyway, which I'll share with you to give you an idea of what their talking about in England on the Boards. This message is just talk as far as I can tell. Check it out let me know what you think. I'm not sure I'm even going to post it, once again I do have permission to do so that's why I'll share it with you. Rs> Whether this film is a hoax or not ... if you have read the various Rs> books about Rosewell, it is impossible to me that all these people are Rs> lying about what their actual experiences were. Also the HBO (or Show Rs> Time) movie that is now in video stores, I think pretty much showed the Rs> essence of the event. I agree I think they did a good job of it. Rs> My feeling is that we try to keep others up to date with whatever we Rs> can. Each of us has to make up our own minds anyway but as far as the Rs> UFO issue goes .... there is just too many people having some kind of Rs> experiece (I have had a few of mine own) and too much resistance from Rs> the scientific community that it can't be happening. Rs> All the best ......... Joshua ============================================================ Subject: Alleged Archive Film ------------------------------------------------------------ You will no doubt have heard of the alleged archive film. Whilst we must remain suspicious, there is an interesting article, a late inclusion, in the current issue of UFO Magazine (UK): "Several cannisters of mid-1940's movies footage was apparently copied by an official USAF photographer - and stored secretly until now. According to our information, the cannisters contain several reels of film which allegedly depict UFO crash sites and debris; more interestingly however, is the autopsy of at least two humanoid figures - 5 feet 7 inches tall, and 3.6 feet respectively. One sequence, shows two surgeons appearing to take thin strips of "skin" from a tall humanoid figure who has a large oval-shaped head and black oval-shaped eyes. Together with other strips of skin, these were placed in a sealed glass container. In the background can be seen an armed military sentry wearing a cover-all. The environment was dark and gloomy, apparently resembling a field-type hospital tent, illuminated by paraffin-lit pressure lamps. The 76 year old former US Army veteran had met a British television producer who was searching archive material. We are told that this elderly man, appreciating the significance of the footage, whilst at the same time recognising perhaps his last opportunity to capitalise on his good fortune, entered into an agreement which would see him financially secure during his twilight years. We are led to believe that over 100 minutes of film exists, and negotiations have already taken place to release significant sections in the near future. Our understanding is that six-figure sums are involved, but this has now become a multi-national chase for exclusive rights between British, American and Japanese media corporations. It is also believed that some of the data is related to the infamous Roswell UFO crash which purportedly occurred in 1947. Most remarkable of all, is the revelation that the then President of the United States, Harry S. Truman, can clearly be seen wandering amongst wreckage of a crash site which could well be linked to Roswell and/or Corona, New Mexico. UFO Magazine is making strenuous efforts to verify matters, and Anthony Dodd is in close touch with the English producer concerned and other key figures." [END] * wcGATE 4.0 = UFONet * Stairway to Heaven BBS, London, UK * 0181-769-1740 ***************** end of message ****************** * SLMR 2.1a * THE PHOENIX HAS ARRIVED! Maybe I'll post it. Later Robert ============================================================ While scanning the Newsgroups, I found this other information posted in one of the UFO newsgroups .................. Joshua ============================================================ Subject: Re: Roswell update, film footage From: Pagemake@raven.cybercom.com (QuarkMaster) Date: Mon, 06 Mar 95 05:10:16 GMT ( This message sent by someone else, not QuarkMaster) It's my understanding that a special screening of this footage was held today in the UK for the Archbishop of Canterbury... Fox is supposed to be airing the footage in a special this month... Apparently they outbid everyone else for the rights, paying $150K for 15 minutes of footage out of over 90 minutes... It also appears that initial examination/testing of the film showed it to be consistent with film from the 1940's... It supposedly shows footage from the autopsies of a Grey, and a "Technician "type (term used by R.D. Butler in his article on UFO Occupant Classifications ftp.webcom.com/pub/way/> to read it) smaller humanoid being. This thing is causing a stir in the appropriate places. Talk is that this could be the beginning of things finally opening up. We'll see.... Keep us clued in as to when this special will air. *************** * QUARKMaster * *************** ============================================================ ********************************************************************* * -------->>> THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo <<<------- * *********************************************************************