2022-09-29 I saw an article on the internet that said that CDE (Common Desktop Environment) was recently updated to version 2.5. I believe a few years ago, CDE and motif were finally released as open source software. Since then some people have tried to maintain it and make it buildable on linux. I have very fond memories of CDE. I went to university in the very early 2000s and I recall one of my computer labs had an entire row of Sun Ultra 5 workstations for the students to use. Now at this time, I believe these workstations were only really being used for the CADENCE program used to do VLSI layouts. That was what I used them for anyways for classes. However outside of classes, these Sun Ultra 5's had one other special property: no one wanted to use them. Imagine it's a busy weekday and you need to go to the computer lab and do your homework or print or just surf the high speed internet. Of course on busy days the computer labs will be full and you can't get a computer to to do your thing. At the time, Windows NT4 and Windows 2000 computers were what were available for students and in the early 2000s, Windows was pretty much the only thing that young college kids knew how to use. But the Sun Ultra 5 workstations were almost always available because they were weird. At the time I didn't understand that these were really the last days of dedicated unix workstations but I did know that people really didn't like using the Sun systems. When you logged into the Ultra 5's you were presented with CDE which was frankly quite ugly. The non-aliased fonts are particularly memorable especially compared to windows which had superior font rendering. But looking back, I can see that the seeds for my eventual switch away from Windows operating systems started right there in college using good old CDE. Since I was like most kids and grew up in a Wintel PC gaming world I really had no idea what Unix was and how to use it. So I painstakingly surfed the early web and tried to learn it. Afterall, the computer labs were almost always full in the early 2000s since believe it or not it still wasn't really an expectation that you needed to actually own your own computer for college back then. So I was stuck using the Ultra 5s quite a bit. This was also before youtube as well. I would read FAQs and HOWTO guides to figure out how to do stuff on Solaris unix..using Netscape Navigator of course. I actually came to really like CDE. It is ugly as heck of course but when you really dig into it, it really is a fully featured desktop environment. It had every tool you needed to use and GUI configuration applications as well. The bottom drawer boxes were always fun and I thought were way cooler than the Windows Start menu. I was really fond of it. Later on after I graduated from college I eventually did run linux in the mid-2000s using XFCE which is kind of like a spiritual offspring of CDE in a way. I'm glad that CDE is staying alive. I've recently gained a sort of nostalgia for the early XWindows looks and applications.