+Erik Beyer Paulsen Belief that evidence proves something is still belief. I'm not knocking science - I'm just saying that, fundamentally, it's a belief system that happens to be very useful in explaining things as they currently are. It's a religion. It plays in the same playing field; it argues with other religions about its truth. Not all systems of knowledge depend on declaring whether something is true or not. Engineering, for example, does what WORKS, not necessarily what there are theories about. Science and religion are both about Universal theories that stand the test of time. They bicker and fight a lot. They're in the same category.