I believe there should be some sort of "inbetween" that takes
   into account psychological distinctions, allowing some sort of
   paid, highly monitored apprenticeship system to form
   [alternative education has always been an interest of mine, ever
   since I read Summerhill and John Holt book when I was 13 in my
   public library - and I'm 42 now]

   But that's unrelated to the issue at hand.

   Even without an "inbeween" system, and things remain strictly

   0-17 | 18-Death

   A weighted down, parental permission-given system would increase
   ownership. It would never happen though. I watched in my
   lifetime as the newspaper route I had (which sucked) at 12, was
   taken over by grown white men in trucks... and the passbook
   account I had at 8, and limited checking account I had at 13...
   became no longer a possibility for today's kids.

   I learned money young. Served me VERY well because I had a stake
   in it.

   Kids today? Childhoods extended into their 40s. Not that there's
   anything wrong with that per se... but there's less and less
   'need' to participate in anything but the next World of Warcraft
   thing... and sit at home, smoking pot and elderly mothers taking
   care of their sons.

   It's not that it's necessarily a *bad thing* per se... but the
   more capabilities are taken away young, the less responsibility
   one feels for their own lives... the more control is gained by
   those who *do* know how to wield power well... and no one will
   care.

     * ooh, ageism. but I suppose the influence of parents would
       likely be too strong in that case. Maybe a kids' vote could
       get a weighed percentage. Disconnection from the surrounding
       country, raising kids in a bubble I think, leaves us walking
       around confounded when we're adults, as the civic process is
       barely addressed in schools.
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       [5]Ty Ashberry Would you trust children that are still
       learning to spell their name to vote for our country?
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       [9]Ty Ashberry They would just vote for who ever their
       parents told them to check. The thing is that children don't
       have the ability to legally sign a contract like a ballot.
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       [13]Kenneth Udut [14]Ty Ashberry On a weighted amount, yes,
       if for no other reason, for further study into the nature of
       parental/peer/media influence upon children, which gives us
       insight into a whole host of "what it is to be human". But
       much more than that.

       They get practical experience in the voting process that
       *can* make a difference, even if minimal.

       No sense of "this is *my* country" is really encouraged.
       Having kids grow up with a sense of this is my country and
       worth my time, would change things dramatically, when those
       4 year olds that can't write, become 45 year olds running
       for presidential office.
       For me, when I vote, for example, I will sometimes look at
       the person or issue I voted for. Whoever I'm with at the
       time I'll point at it and go, "See that 7? That would have
       been a 6 if I didn't go there today!"

       Sense of ownership. I'm all for a philosophical stoic apathy
       of sorts (perhaps not as extreme but in the 'gist' of it as
       it were) - but not apathy when it comes to our relationship
       with the future world that isn't here yet.
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