Oooo... tough call.... civilization... eeek... civil... given the behaviors of individuals that live within geographical boundaries under a common set of laws with enforcers of that law in various forms, along with other sets of laws with enforcers that are unwritten (I think mean-girls as one example)... ... it's hard for me to see civilization as a reality either. I can, at present only go with cultures and subcultures. I'm 'atheist' (metaphorically speaking) to "society" and "civilization". Odd too, because I had once considered becoming a sociologist.