Ian, well the bees are not being driven to extinction: there are fewer beekeepers. Statistics depended upon beekeeping as a hobby. Beekeeping has become less popular and with fewer people counting the bees, there seems to be fewer bees. I work in animal trapping and one of the things we deal with is bees. There's no bee shortage but there is DEFINITELY a growing shortage of beekeepers. We used to be able to "trap live bees" because we'd just pass it on to a local beekeeper. But over the past 12 years, fewer and fewer people bother with it; beekeepers get old and die and their grandkids don't share the passion. We have ONE GUY left that we can turn to. But he's old himself and eventually we'll have to change our literature and no longer be able to help people by removing bees nests live. Mix in a story linked to the drug that caused birth defects that were extremely scary and real (and I could've been a victim of it myself, had I been carried a few months or a year earlier than I was)... and mentally link it to _suspected_ pesticide pollutants (DDT) that, as far as I know, ended up being disproven.. but once the ball got rolling, its hard to stop an idea from the public mind.... and toss in a few big name chemical companies.... you get a spreadable meme. Agent Orange was: [1]https://en.wikipedia.org/.../2,4,5-Trichlorophenoxyacetic... and [2]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2,4-Dichlorophenoxyacetic_acid Thalidomide is not known to be a carcinogen, although they're revisiting the possibility of a particular type of cancer, due to growing concerns likely fed by grassroots media efforts. (my opinion) [3]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thalidomide#Carcinogenicity References Visible links 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2,4,5-Trichlorophenoxyacetic_acid 2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2,4-Dichlorophenoxyacetic_acid 3. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thalidomide#Carcinogenicity