It wasn't a waste of time for me. I save my more interesting portions of things to [1]http://icopiedyou.com as a searchable archive of my brain out of context. It's not there for anybody else really but mostly as a memory jogger for myself and also so that I can stay intellectually honest. I'm in the ongoing process of scientifically evaluating and re-evaluating my own positions on various subjects. My stances. How am I thinking. How did my thinking change over time. Right now, I'm collecting bits of raw data. My goal was not to convince you "I'm right, you're wrong". My goal was to accept the challenge in order to broaden my knowledge and ability to explain and refine my positions on things... to understand my own tactics a little better. I want to know what resources I trust and which ones I don't. Through debate, my sword gets sharpened against sword and no battle is wasted. I don't have much in the way of a priori here. But if winning a debate is important to you, here: You win. You have presented a logical, coherent argument based upon your set of assumptions to prove whatever you were trying to prove. I'm not sure what that was, but I'm sure you proved it in your fashion. References Visible links 1. http://icopiedyou.com/