Yes, and Eugenics was the Logical Positivist Rational Science modern human sacrifice-for-a-cause. Looking for bad examples is simple and poor form. Just there you stretched back to a story in a book and reached forward to a specific example in a small place that is, by the way, a cult that is not mainstream. A little more intellectual integrity would be nice, honestly. Can't seem to escape hyperbole. == I have no idea what systems or processes created life for certain. I *suspect* it's a complicated process over a long period of time, maybe a few magical lightning strikes and mysterious chemical soup forming inside of triangular crystaline structures warmed up by the UV of the sun on the younger Earth which eventually took the amino acids that came down from comets in the sky to form life. Want a scientific answer for life? Take yer pick. Many competing theories. I'm agnostic. _I don't know_. But I suspect there was some wonky process involved. I believe that the elements that make us up were formed when a protostar (the light before light) exploded and hit a giant molecular gas cloud which formed the heavier elements, coalesced together first by static electricity then by gravity and spiraling over a long period of time, eventually ended up with the sun, earth, and after a long time cooking on this planet, us. That's where I'm at. When it comes to God type stuff? I have no idea.