I think a generation had to go by first though. "Give a hoot, don't pollute" was still a thing in the 80s when the hot-and-heavy research-in-this-one-direction began. So people would've thought about owls. But if we can blame the weather on pollution? Well, EVERYBODY complains about the weather, and NOW FINALLY somebody's gonna _do_ something about it. So it was a practical angle for a number of years, psychologically. == The whole global warming/climate change/greenhouse effect angle means I've spent 1/2 my life so far hearing, "WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE" and I'm like.. ok, well, go ahead if you want. I put my recycling in the recycle bin most of the time. My sphere of influence is limited and I do what I can where I'm at. But I don't like being a mouthpiece for others in general. I have to really be into an issue for that. This one? I'm really not that into. Never was. Somebody else's religious fervor to convince everybody but not mine. = Well, here's the way I see it: The earth is tough. If we screw up the climate for our needs, the earth will survive, thrive and change and life will continue. Will we be a part of it? I dunno. I suspect we will. I tend to be very skeptical of apocalyptic viewpoints generally, no matter how much data is behind it, so that might be a point where we differ. == Well, it's a tough situation: When we're SUCCESSFUL at making change happen, people always say, "See, there was never a problem in the first place - everything's fine". So I dont' want to do that. I'm usually the guy that has to work in the background and FIX everything so it appears there was never a real problem in the first place. == I spend my life hearing people say, "I don't know what you're so stressed about - it would've worked out fine even if you did nothing". I've learned to ignore those people through the years because they'll never 'get it' - that it takes a lot of work to keep things working. == Well, it's practical when paired up with, "And here's what we can do about it: Reduce pollution, invent new technologies which can reduce the effects... create new legislation to.... issue sanctions against countries who do [x]... support homegrown efforts to...."and stuff like that. What you've said, when paired with, "...and here's what we humans can do about it". is practical.I don't have to believe to know what's practical smile emoticon Even if it's "keeping people busy until The End" - that's practical. Chat Conversation End == *"Where there's life, there's hope". That's my overall view of things. Even if 98% of the population goes away and there are pockets of livable space underground and we have to eventually recolonize elsewhere in hundreds of years and eeek out our survival in the meantime, I'm ok with that possible future as well. = Quite true. I mean if ppl wanna do something about it, I'm ok with it. I'll analogize: During the Serbia/Kosovo war/conflict, there were people they (somebody did I forgot who) called the "white shirt brigade". They put on their suit and ties and went to work everyday. They avoided areas of conflict when they drove. They did their jobs. They came home, fed their families. Same happens in Syria today. Everywhere there's war, people continue leading normal lives. Most people aren't fighting or bombing. They are the people who save things. I believe that 100%. Chat Conversation End == *They are. Crossing borders, dealing with the BS of war by working around it, they carry on. Theme of WWII "Keep calm and carry on". Theme of Post 9/11 USA. Its true. It's my approach with global warming. I do what I can but beyond that, if I want civilization to continue, I remain civilized smile emoticon ==